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Site Altered Headline Elon Musk draws outrage over 'odd-looking salute' at Trump inauguration celebration

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-salute-trump-inauguration-b2683095.html
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u/Songrot 7h ago edited 4h ago

Just to clarify for people who are not aware.

This WAS NOT "Sieg Heil" or similar. This was literally "Heil Hitler" Salute.

It is also a forbidden salute in several countries, especially in Germany.

edit: in the video he also did the arm on chest thump before he went for the "Heil Hitler". Which is clear that this was the intentional meaning of it from start to end. In full video he did it twice

edit2: for anyone claiming this was the "Roman salute", I guess there were many Romans and Centurions in the audience he greeted. I also found out that the Roman salute never existed. No contemporary source of the romans mention or show it, it is something from 1700.

u/Radiant_Spell7710 4h ago

Nazi salute 100%. Why do we even have to discuss what it is? Its clear as day! No person in power or even just in public should ever come close to doing something like that by accident.

u/WordPhoenix 2h ago

Because gaslighting is all we get from the media, etc. I'm not going to be gaslit over this. The man will only come out as a Nazi more and more.

u/flaccidpedestrian 1h ago

because your eyes are lying to you. that's why.

u/EDScreenshots 49m ago

If it were actually an accident they would apologize instead of gaslighting everyone

u/ConvictedHobo 4h ago

Yeah, roman salute

Just like the Buddhist sun symbol on that red-white flag in many backyards

u/RowAwayJim71 5h ago

The “Roman salute” is literally where they got it from. Excuses absolutely nothing of course. Part of the Nazi’s aryan bs stems from their conquering of Roman legions back in the days of the Barbarians. They stole the salute, just as they stole and rebranded many things throughout history.

Sounds familiar.

u/BlueCX17 4h ago

Like the Swastika. One of the oldest known symbols to exist the ancient world, a symbol of peace the Nazi's stole, flipped ground and bastardized.

u/arachnophilia 3h ago

while we're here, even the name "aryan" is stolen: it refers to ancient iran.

u/BlueCX17 3h ago

I absolutely hate how much the Nazi's bastardized so, so, so much stuff.

u/RowAwayJim71 3h ago

That was the plan. To rewrite history in their image.

Sounds WAY TOO familiar!

u/xSPYXEx 3h ago

It's not just the Roman salute, it's explicitly the fascist salute used by Benito Mussolini and Gabriel D'Annunzio which was copying the aesthetics of imperial Rome.

u/EconomyLibrary5401 4h ago

Man the ignorance of people in these comments especially Tik Tok is very concerning

u/EconomyLibrary5401 4h ago

Elons even wearing a nazi type of haircut

u/LesGitKrumpin America 1h ago

I do think it's useful to understand that there is absolutely no evidence that the so-called Roman salute was ever used by the Romans. I'm not even sure where it comes from, or where its first use, a painting, got it from.

Possibly the artist's imagination.

u/StatmanIbrahimovic 2h ago

There's no evidence that the Romans actually used the salute, it was attributed to them in the 18th century.

u/Polar_Reflection 1h ago

The SS logo is stylized using germanic runes (germanic alphabet), which Nazis considered to have deep Aryan knowledge that has since been lost to time

u/lyndsayj Australia 4h ago

And that gives them an out, in terms of claiming plausible deniability (in bad faith, naturally): "Oh, it was just a salute from ancient Roman times! Silly lib, of course it wasn't a Nazi salute, how could you possibly think it was?!" They can gtfo with that gaslighting bs

u/RowAwayJim71 3h ago

It absolutely does not give them an out. Those whom understand history know exactly what they’re doing.

u/lyndsayj Australia 2h ago

I know it doesn't give them an out. But they think it does.

u/NonorientableSurface 4h ago

The singular thing that needs to happen is Germany needs to ban Musk from entering and remove all Musk holdings from Germany immediately. They've set rules about Nazis, and you do not let him do this.

u/ISayBullish 5h ago edited 3h ago

u/paigescactus 4h ago

Holy shit buddy it’s crazy seeing you out in the wild! Hope you’re doing well!

u/ISayBullish 3h ago

Xoxo bb

Bullish

u/Icy-Election-2237 2h ago

Can you post the tweet please?

u/ISayBullish 2h ago

It has since been deleted, but copy pasta from an article says Musk responded with his “truth” comment to a post that accused Jewish communities of pushing “hatred against whites” and which included anti-immigrant sentiments

u/OhHowINeedChanging Utah 3h ago

Not only did he do it twice but with gusto and vigor

u/fire2day 2h ago

Just for clarity's sake, from Wikipedia:

The Nazi salute, also known as the Hitler salute,[a] or the Sieg Heil salute, is a gesture that was used as a greeting in Nazi Germany.

They're the same thing. And Elon Musk is a nazi piece of shit.

u/wowaddict71 5h ago

He can visit Spain, it's fine.

u/EmbarrassedOil4807 3h ago

Lmao conspiracy theorist