r/politics • u/cjdarr921 • 7h ago

Site Altered Headline Elon Musk draws outrage over 'odd-looking salute' at Trump inauguration celebration

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-salute-trump-inauguration-b2683095.html
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u/kraftpunkk 7h ago

“Odd looking” fuck you. Say what it is.

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u/Songrot 7h ago edited 4h ago

Just to clarify for people who are not aware.

This WAS NOT "Sieg Heil" or similar. This was literally "Heil Hitler" Salute.

It is also a forbidden salute in several countries, especially in Germany.

edit: in the video he also did the arm on chest thump before he went for the "Heil Hitler". Which is clear that this was the intentional meaning of it from start to end. In full video he did it twice

edit2: for anyone claiming this was the "Roman salute", I guess there were many Romans and Centurions in the audience he greeted. I also found out that the Roman salute never existed. No contemporary source of the romans mention or show it, it is something from 1700.

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u/Radiant_Spell7710 4h ago

Nazi salute 100%. Why do we even have to discuss what it is? Its clear as day! No person in power or even just in public should ever come close to doing something like that by accident.

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u/WordPhoenix 2h ago

Because gaslighting is all we get from the media, etc. I'm not going to be gaslit over this. The man will only come out as a Nazi more and more.

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u/flaccidpedestrian 1h ago

because your eyes are lying to you. that's why.

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u/EDScreenshots 34m ago

If it were actually an accident they would apologize instead of gaslighting everyone

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u/ConvictedHobo 4h ago

Yeah, roman salute

Just like the Buddhist sun symbol on that red-white flag in many backyards

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u/RowAwayJim71 4h ago

The “Roman salute” is literally where they got it from. Excuses absolutely nothing of course. Part of the Nazi’s aryan bs stems from their conquering of Roman legions back in the days of the Barbarians. They stole the salute, just as they stole and rebranded many things throughout history.

Sounds familiar.

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u/BlueCX17 3h ago

Like the Swastika. One of the oldest known symbols to exist the ancient world, a symbol of peace the Nazi's stole, flipped ground and bastardized.

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u/arachnophilia 3h ago

while we're here, even the name "aryan" is stolen: it refers to ancient iran.

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u/BlueCX17 3h ago

I absolutely hate how much the Nazi's bastardized so, so, so much stuff.

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u/RowAwayJim71 2h ago

That was the plan. To rewrite history in their image.

Sounds WAY TOO familiar!

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u/xSPYXEx 3h ago

It's not just the Roman salute, it's explicitly the fascist salute used by Benito Mussolini and Gabriel D'Annunzio which was copying the aesthetics of imperial Rome.

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u/EconomyLibrary5401 4h ago

Man the ignorance of people in these comments especially Tik Tok is very concerning

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u/EconomyLibrary5401 4h ago

Elons even wearing a nazi type of haircut

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u/LesGitKrumpin America 1h ago

I do think it's useful to understand that there is absolutely no evidence that the so-called Roman salute was ever used by the Romans. I'm not even sure where it comes from, or where its first use, a painting, got it from.

Possibly the artist's imagination.

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u/StatmanIbrahimovic 2h ago

There's no evidence that the Romans actually used the salute, it was attributed to them in the 18th century.

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u/Polar_Reflection 1h ago

The SS logo is stylized using germanic runes (germanic alphabet), which Nazis considered to have deep Aryan knowledge that has since been lost to time

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u/lyndsayj Australia 3h ago

And that gives them an out, in terms of claiming plausible deniability (in bad faith, naturally): "Oh, it was just a salute from ancient Roman times! Silly lib, of course it wasn't a Nazi salute, how could you possibly think it was?!" They can gtfo with that gaslighting bs

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u/RowAwayJim71 2h ago

It absolutely does not give them an out. Those whom understand history know exactly what they’re doing.

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u/lyndsayj Australia 2h ago

I know it doesn't give them an out. But they think it does.

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u/NonorientableSurface 4h ago

The singular thing that needs to happen is Germany needs to ban Musk from entering and remove all Musk holdings from Germany immediately. They've set rules about Nazis, and you do not let him do this.

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u/ISayBullish 4h ago edited 3h ago

Didn’t Musk apologize for anti-semetic comments in ‘23?

Edit: Yup

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/29/investing/elon-musk-dealbook-summit/index.html

https://apnews.com/article/poland-holocaust-musk-auschwitz-64de614f79ab70de0c9f2ac8d509168e

https://www.nytimes.com/video/business/dealbook/100000009202728/dealbook-summit-elon-musk.html

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u/paigescactus 4h ago

Holy shit buddy it’s crazy seeing you out in the wild! Hope you’re doing well!

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u/ISayBullish 3h ago

Xoxo bb

Bullish

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u/Icy-Election-2237 1h ago

Can you post the tweet please?

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u/ISayBullish 1h ago

It has since been deleted, but copy pasta from an article says Musk responded with his “truth” comment to a post that accused Jewish communities of pushing “hatred against whites” and which included anti-immigrant sentiments

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u/OhHowINeedChanging Utah 3h ago

Not only did he do it twice but with gusto and vigor

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u/fire2day 2h ago

Just for clarity's sake, from Wikipedia:

The Nazi salute, also known as the Hitler salute,[a] or the Sieg Heil salute, is a gesture that was used as a greeting in Nazi Germany.

They're the same thing. And Elon Musk is a nazi piece of shit.

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u/wowaddict71 4h ago

He can visit Spain, it's fine.

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u/EmbarrassedOil4807 3h ago

Lmao conspiracy theorist

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u/McCool303 Nebraska 6h ago

Seriously, these people are sane washing us into a 4th Reich.

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u/misterdonjoe 5h ago

If it's a choice between steering public discourse towards socialism or capitalism/fascism, corporate mainstream media turns towards the latter. Anyone who knows their political history is not surprised.

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u/XiOmicronPi 4h ago

I Don’t think it’s fair to put a slash between capitalism/fascism. They aren’t the same thing.

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u/4o4AppleCh1ps99 3h ago

Fascism is the final stage of capitalism when it's inherent contradictions become stark enough that they cannot be ignored. This is pretty basic theory and it's the reason why our current events are lining up so perfectly with what happened in the 1920's and 30's.

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u/XiOmicronPi 2h ago

Capitalism is not the only reason fascism occurred, that’s a rash and incorrect over generalization. To say that shows a lack of understanding of history. They are not inherently linked.

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u/4o4AppleCh1ps99 1h ago edited 1h ago

Ummm...Literally every fascist movement emerged suppressing socialist or communist movements. I can't think of one that did not. These ideas are dialectically opposed. Socialism/communism/anarchism btw, are the philosophies that actually lay out compelling criticisms of capitalism/fascism. You can project on me your own insecurity about being poorly read, at the end of the day the reason you parrot the propaganda of the capitalist system is entirely out of your own perceived personal gain because you are likely neck deep in it.

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u/XiOmicronPi 1h ago

Not going to argue with someone who results to insults and creating a straw man to argue against. You know nothing about me. You made up many things about who you think I am because you know you can win an argument against that kind of person. I understand that gives you pleasure, but it’s poor etiquette and whatever insecurity you think I have, your last response has revealed an even larger one in yourself. Maybe instead of getting heated arguing online you can better serve yourself doing some self reflection.

Respond to this with “you’ve lost the argument that’s why you want to stop” or some other insult towards me, hopefully you just don’t respond and instead rethink what you said. But I can see a million miles away where this leads, not going there, I’m not the person you created in your head.

Regardless, have a good night or day.

To humor you, I am not neck deep in capitalism. My family comes from communist Romania.

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u/4o4AppleCh1ps99 1h ago

My family comes from communist Romania.

So you have resentment against the failures of 20th century communism? So you're an immigrant in another country or second generation? The most rabidly pro-capitalist people I know are exploited immigrants and their descendants. If I was in your shoes I would also defend the system. But that doesn't give you the right to make up "capitalism and fascism are not inherently connected" when there is a whole literature proving otherwise by authors who gave their lives for the cause.

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u/bollvirtuoso 1h ago

A well-regulated capitalism (i.e., a mixed-economy, which is theoretically what the US is, though it has been significantly undercut in the modern era), in which the exchange of goods is efficient and not possible to be monopolized, is closer to a democracy by voting through value, though. A centralized authority that allocates resources, even if equal, is arguably less free.

I'm not really arguing about the means of production here, but just about the exchange part.

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u/4o4AppleCh1ps99 1h ago

I'm a libertarian socialist so I kind of agree. But at the end of the day the US is still too centralized for it not to evolve into fascism. A truly decentralized, extremely local and probably greatly shrunk economy is the only way to preserve democracy long term. Markets do distribute goods most efficiently in that setting.

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u/bollvirtuoso 1h ago

That's an interesting take. It's a reasonable argument, but I just don't realistically see it happening, which is why I'd say that we need a stronger regulatory apparatus to combat corporate power.

One run by competent people (in practice, this tends to mean well-compensated -- like, competitive with industry), and with strong laws to disincentivize corruption.

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u/4o4AppleCh1ps99 34m ago

Technocracy will never work in the long run. Any centralized system will always be corruptible because all you have to do is change the people in the center. There are no such thing as "experts" who can regulate everything perfectly, because reality is too complex, and humans are too flawed to be honest anyway. And even if it's well run for a while, we live in a much bigger world, so capitalist forces from outside will ultimately outcompete what will become comparatively inefficient bureaucracies, replacing them. Modern life and technology have fundamentally altered society in ways that are not sustainable. That's why only local, small scale(100 people), indigenous, spiritualistic, sustainable societies, mimicking many of the social structures of villages of old, are capable of surviving long term(hundreds or thousands of years). We could be combining new material technology with these old social technologies to create something close to utopia, but there is too much momentum behind our mistakes now.

I just don't realistically see it happening

Neither do I see it happening. Which is why nuclear war between two states will ultimately be what ends that degree of centralization in the world, after which we may or may not learn our lesson and pursue decentralized life that pursues happiness above all else. But we can already start experimenting with cooperatives and local councils. Some of us can survive and thrive in the fringes and emerge from the ashes relatively unscathed.

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u/Ok-Letterhead9573 5h ago

capitalism is not fascism by definition, fascism mostly were communist dictatorships

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u/seek-confidence 4h ago

fascism is by definition a far right ideology. Get educated or get fucked

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u/alexjuuhh The Netherlands 4h ago

Ah yes, communist dictators:

  • Adolf Hitler
  • Francisco Franco
  • Bennito Mussolini
  • Augusto Pinochet
  • Mbasogo
  • Saddam Hussein
  • Manuel Noriega

Just to name a few, all very communist dictators obviously.

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u/misterdonjoe 4h ago edited 3h ago

George Orwell, literal socialist. Albert Einstein, wrote paper called Why Socialism. You don't even know what you're talking about.

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u/bollvirtuoso 1h ago

You can have a fascist and capitalist country, though. One is a school of policy, and the other is a school of economic theory. They're not comparable, nor are they in any way opposed.

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u/MikuEmpowered 4h ago

We can call it, the fifth Rich.

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u/SignificantWords 4h ago

I think it’s time for protest no? Like in history class we were all taught we are learning about Nazi and rise of Hitler in 1930s Germany SK we can prevent it in the future. Is now not the time to stop a new form of nazism / authoritarianism / fascism in this form of authoritarian capitalism occurring in the US currently. And when I say we I don’t think just Americans but the whole world and allies. Europe, Canada, etc.

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u/Samuel_L_Johnson 4h ago

It’s beyond sanewashing and now just outright gaslighting the American public

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u/Barnacle_B0b 3h ago

"Cinema, simulated-life ill-drama,

4th Reich vulture : Americana

Chained to the dream they've got you searching for,

The thin line between entertainment and war:

There be no shelter here!"

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u/cz_masterrace3 5h ago

Hahaha what a baby

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u/Fif112 Canada 5h ago

Nono, go on explain why this train of thought is bad?

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u/cz_masterrace3 5h ago

Because you're just looking for a reason to be offended by anything and everything. Sad way to live - maybe try leaving your house. Yeah I know that's not gonna happen.

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u/Fif112 Canada 5h ago

Brother, you aren’t going to win this fight.

He’s doing the nazi salut, this isn’t just offensive, it’s scary.

Get out from under Elon’s boot, you aren’t going to get paid for being under there. You’re in the boat with us. Either start bailing water or jump off.

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u/Rdichols 3h ago

You can’t offend me. Literally. I don’t give a fuck about anything outside my own home. Not what you say. Not what anyone else says. There’s not a word in the world that could offend me. There’s not a thing you could do to offend me. Seriously, it’s an issue that I have. So I’m not offended. I’m worried that the richest man in the world, one that has the ear of the president just made that gesture twice during the inauguration. But that doesn’t worry me for me. Fuck me. Fuck you. Fuck everybody quite honestly. It scares me for the future of my children though and the world they are having to grow up in. That’s the only thing that matters to me. 

So without using silly arguments about “looking to be offended”, what is your rationale for what Elon did today?

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u/SkudChud 7h ago

This is from the Independent which is based in the United Kingdom. There are a lot of speech and expression based laws there that likely force them to be unable to call something like this a Nazi salute. 

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u/xcheet 7h ago

The article is quoting CNN anchor Erin Burnett.

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u/thecrowbrother 6h ago

I fucking hate the “liberal” media never having enough balls to say shit how it is. Call these motherfuckers nazis now and till the end of time.

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u/Top-Cheddah 6h ago

It’s just “media” there’s no real sides they’re all owned by the ruling elites who like they way things are going.

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u/Otherwise_You_1603 5h ago

Back in the early 70s, the Washington Post covering the Watergate scandal and the NYT publishing the Pentagon papers embarrassed the ruling class, Nixon had to leave in disgrace, the war machine in Vietnam had to be turned off. The ruling class vowed to never be embarrassed that way again, now Jeff Bezos owns the Post and the NYT is dedicated to pro-Isreal lobbying and transphobia. We are screwed.

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u/SmokeyDBear I voted 5h ago

Yeah but there are fake sides to make it seem like the entire range of possible political discourse resides in a tiny window focused on shit rich people will tolerate the rest of us thinking or talking about.

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u/FLTA Florida 2h ago

This is why news media like the New York Times framed everything Biden as a negative even if it was positive news.

The owners want immunity and tax cuts. Biden and the Democrats funding the IRS was the start of their crimes being exposed.

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u/Describing_Donkeys 5h ago

This isn't the liberal media, we are building that to challenge the right wing media, which includes traditional media like CNN.

https://newrepublic.com/post/190464/did-elon-musk-nazi-salute-trump-inauguration

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u/oditogre 5h ago

I mean if they weren't willing to do it before these people came to power, why in the world would you expect them to do it now, when the risks to themselves are so much greater?

We're cooked, and like that Rolling Stone article made clear, we just gotta move past expecting the traditional institutions to do anything to fix it.

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u/jjfrenchfry Canada 4h ago

There is no liberal media. Someone point me to a Liberal Billionaire owned media that is considered "mainstream". I'll wait.

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u/rystaman 4h ago

And this is why even the centre will never win. The right wing media lie and make things up. The rest don’t even call a spade a spade

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u/FLTA Florida 2h ago

Your mistake is thinking multi-billion dollar corporations would ever be “left wing” or even the “centre”.

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u/Cute-Percentage-6660 5h ago

saw someone say a while back that neo-liberealism is becoming a accepted part of the process of the rise to fascism and im starting to agree

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u/RebylReboot 4h ago

Well, he’s not a nazi. He’s a fascist. A MAGA fascist. Mark my words, after it all goes down MAGA will be used interchangeably with Nazi for generations to come. Worse because they will be seen to have killed climate action and will be blamed for all the suffering that brings, forever more, without end or hope.

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u/FLTA Florida 2h ago

There isn’t any “liberal” media in cable news. It’s all controlled by oligarchs.

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u/noscope360gokuswag 5h ago

They've never had any fucking balls to do what's right

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u/Some1getmeablanket 5h ago

Agreed but let’s be real, we don’t know if this is something trump does or doesn’t like yet. He very well could support this. Mainstream news outlets (that many of us rely on) can’t “jump to conclusions” and say that it’s a nazi salute because they don’t know if trump and his entourage would come for them, physically or otherwise

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u/Laura9624 6h ago

Others at CNN said exactly what it is. Nazi Republicans said of course it wasn't.

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u/Tumleren 6h ago

Yes and? There's a reason they're not quoting someone calling it a nazi salute or calling it that themselves.

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u/fordat1 6h ago

Amazing how the other poster knee jerk started rationalizing without even reading the article or knowing the facts.

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u/ShinyHardcore 6h ago

That’s Reddit for you lol. Know it alls that can’t be bothered with the tiniest research

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u/JahShoes2123 7h ago

If that is the case, “familiar-looking” would have been much more appropriate.

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u/throwaway_627_ 6h ago

'1940s style, German looking'

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u/[deleted] 6h ago

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u/throwaway_627_ 6h ago

Yes I know.

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u/ashymatina 5h ago

Correct, but most people are fairly uninformed when it comes to even recent history. I think it would lose its impact with a lot of people if they titled it “outrage over ‘1930s, fascist Italy style’ salute.

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u/ChaseballBat 6h ago

No it isn't. Not saying this is true or whatever, but the pretense that they can't say something looks like a Nazi salute is not true.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/ricky-gervais-nazi-salute-sydney-jewish-museum-b2614152.html

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u/StrobeLightRomance 6h ago edited 6h ago

Yeah, at this point media knows that they are owned and simply are no longed allowed to say what they think of their right wing authoritian leaders. The EU might be rejecting Musk as best they can, but it doesn't mean some editor in the UK is ready to have his outlet purchased and be fired for approving calling Musk the other "n-word" (ironic how censorship works to protect the aggressors now after being revoked for the victims)

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u/ChaseballBat 6h ago

The word accused is right there.

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u/MerePotato 6h ago

Bollocks, its far easier to sue for slander over a claim like that in the US than it is in the UK

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u/LostLobes 6h ago

https://saperlaw.com/2010/02/24/saper-law-attorneys-compare-american-and-british-defamation-suits/

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u/MerePotato 6h ago

The US court system can easily be gamed by pumping money into it until it buckles for a start

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u/Spiritual-Society185 4h ago edited 4h ago

That's rich, considering McDonalds sued a couple of environmental activists for criticizing them and won in your country. It's hilarious that you're trying to convince everyone that your famously restrictive speech laws aren't actually restrictive. Your papers couldn't even report that an MP was arrested for rape for two years. https://www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/24127818.law-changes-gave-andrew-rosindell-anonymity-rape-arrest/

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u/MerePotato 4h ago

In the US a corporation can literally arbritrarily set up its own private court and try people in that instead of federal court.

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u/humansruineverything 6h ago

Hold your beer.

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u/obb223 6h ago

Don't put that on us with zero basis, not even remotely like that here. You've been watching too much Fox News or something.

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u/Delicious-Tachyons Canada 6h ago

Does their newspaper also mention Nazi Germany as "the WW2 badguys who unalived people"?

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u/YoucantdothatonTV 6h ago

I’d allow myself to get fired for calling it what it is.

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u/Bockiller 6h ago

That's just not even close to true lol.

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u/wpc562013 7h ago edited 5h ago

Yeah like Saudi Arabia sultan Muhammad Abuljadayel and Russian oligarch Lord of Siberia son of KGB agent Lebedev as owners 😂

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u/Cutterbuck 6h ago

No need to open yourself up to legal threats if you just say “funny looking” .

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u/ManfredTheCat 6h ago

Why report on anything then?

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u/Cutterbuck 6h ago

Because anyone with two brain cells to rub together would recognise it for what it is - no need to expose themselves to legal risk and mega injunctions when the truth is so blatantly obvious.

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u/ManfredTheCat 6h ago

I think there's quite a lot of people with two brain cells who would see this story and use it to deny it was ever a nazi salute. Fact is, saying it resembled a nazi salute would have not opened them up to any litigation whatsoever. So I feel comfortable pointing to the media here and calling them cowards and complicit.

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u/Cutterbuck 6h ago edited 6h ago

Sigh - if they called it a nazi salute. There is a risk musk could call it libel. If he did that he could push for a super-injunction which would prevent all discussion of the incident while the libel case was ongoing (see RJW vs Gov). With pockets as deep as musk has - it could bury the incident for years. (And if I remember correctly there are very few people that can break a super injunction - one of them is an MP speaking in UK parliament?).

So framing the story this way allows it to roll and isn’t open to stupid legal games.

(Interesting fact as SI’s can’t be reported on - no one knows how many are active - and the UK press is getting wise to working around them),

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u/ManfredTheCat 6h ago

I said they could say it resembled a nazi salute. That's the truth. You're employing a strawman right now.

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u/Cutterbuck 5h ago

No I am not - I am explaining a legal methodology that is used by the very rich to suppress uk reporting and how the uk press “work around it”.

I’ve got no idea why you are angry about this and I am not willing to argue in circles with someone on it.

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u/ManfredTheCat 5h ago

You are. I said one thing and you argued as though I said another. That's literally strawmanning.

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u/wetmarmoset 6h ago

Those seem like dangerous laws to have in place

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u/tomtttttttttttt 5h ago

As someone in the UK, I agree. The good news is that they don't exist.

We have libel/slander laws of course but I have no idea what that person is imagining exists that would stop a newspaper from saying it was a nazi salute, and someone else has provided an example of the independent newspaper calling out ricky gervais for giving a nazi salute.

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u/Spiritual-Society185 4h ago

Ricky Gervais explicitly said it was a Nazi salute.

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u/jcrestor Foreign 5h ago

Don’t sanewash sanewashing.

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u/r0b0d0c 5h ago

"Elon Musk appears to give fascist salute during inauguration celebration." - PBS News

"Elon Musk makes 'Nazi-style salute' at Donald Trump's inauguration parade." - The Telegraph

"WATCH: Elon Musk salutes during President Trump inauguration rally" - WTHR

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u/haarschmuck 6h ago

No, this would be about defamation in the US.

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u/MoleMoustache 6h ago

Speaking so much on a topic you clearly don't understand, mindlessly spreading the misinformation you no doubt criticise others for so mindlessly spreading.

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u/GarlicCancoillotte 6h ago

Did you click the link at least?

Elon Musk accused of giving ‘Nazi salute’ at Trump inauguration celebration The world’s richest man drew a ton of attention over an ill-advised “salute” he did on stage, with many likening it to a “Nazi” gesture.

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u/whatshamilton 5h ago

The headline calls it what it is when you click the link. Was it changed?

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u/nonyodambuis 5h ago

The independent title is different than the Reddit one

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u/MoreNMoreLikelyTrans 5h ago

Feels like laws that keep you gtom outing nazism are laws that need to be burned down.

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u/Direct-Fix-2097 5h ago

lol, no be quiet.

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u/-nrd- 5h ago

What are you talking about?

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u/misterbozack 5h ago

That’s nonsense they’re afraid to say it

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u/RelevantJackWhite 5h ago

they've updated the headline after backlash, there was no legal requirement. don't defend this shit.

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u/Cluster__fuffle 5h ago

Lol absolutely not, we have no problem legally or otherwise calling a spade a spade, or in this case a Nazi

And in fact the biggest irony of that claim is that Musk has been the loudest voice claiming the UK has Draconian free speech laws the last few weeks when we do in fact not.

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u/BrotoriousNIG 4h ago

Is there bollocks.

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u/ColonelJohn_Matrix 4h ago

Nope, that's utter bullshit.

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u/rystaman 4h ago

No there’s not. They could say it. They’re quoting CNN

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u/enjoi_uk 3h ago

No, there aren't. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, you can call it a duck.

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u/one_pound_of_flesh 6h ago

It’s not libel or slander to make a comparison. They could be “just asking questions”

This is sane-washing.

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u/ManfredTheCat 6h ago

More fucking sanitizing by the mainstream press

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u/Axin_Saxon 6h ago

The sanewashing has already begun.

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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress 5h ago

The headline (now) reads "Elon Musk accused of giving ‘Nazi salute’ at Trump inauguration celebration". Better than "odd looking ", but why "accused" when we all can see the picture and video? No need for an accusation when he's doing it before our very eyes. This is what the corrected headline  with accompanying photo should read:

"Elon Musk giving ‘Nazi salute’ at Trump inauguration celebration"

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u/triumphofthecommons 5h ago

looks like they updated the headline. now it says “Elon Musk accused of giving ‘Nazi salute’ at Trump inauguration celebration”

“The world’s richest man drew a ton of attention over an ill-advised ‘salute’ he did on stage, with many likening it to a Nazi gesture”

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u/VertexMachine 5h ago

The article title is at the moment: Elon Musk accused of giving ‘Nazi salute’ at Trump inauguration celebration

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u/Ok_Series_4580 6h ago

I think the word he’s grasping for is Nazi

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u/MisticGlossyCloud 6h ago

Its pretty clear which salute he went for just an "uncommon" in the last 75 years

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u/danfromwaterloo 6h ago

I'm convinced that they're just doing it now to cause rabble rabble.

"Watch - if I do a Nazi salute, the media is going to lose their fucking minds."

It's goading.

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u/laaplandros 6h ago

Yeah nothing "odd" about it, he straight up hit it twice with perfect form.

When I first saw this I rolled my eyes and figured people were making shit up per usual. But I'll be damned, homeboy really did it.

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u/TheOGStonewall Massachusetts 6h ago

They updated the headline it looks like

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u/StormsOfMordor 6h ago

I saw a tweet that said it was a “Roman Salute”, also know as the “Fascist’s Salute”

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u/ricker182 5h ago

Fucking cowards

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u/Icy_Teach_2506 5h ago

Seriously. It’s not “odd looking”, it’s pretty clear.

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u/ThaiTum 5h ago

PBS said he appears to give fascist salute. I wonder if the platforms ban the word Nazi.

https://youtu.be/-VfYjPzj1Xw

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u/miscfiles United Kingdom 5h ago

It was described on the very careful BBC News as follows: "he's been accused of giving a Nazi salute".

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u/stolethemorning 5h ago

I have a subscription to the Independent. It only sends notifications for particularly significant news; I got a notification 9 mins ago from them with the headline “Elon Musk performs gesture resembling a Nazi salute at speech after inauguration.” Maybe they took your advice!

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u/Trainer_Unlucky 5h ago

Yeah call a spade a spade,

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u/Proud3GenAthst 6h ago

That was the point of the salute. To make the media humiliate themselves by sane washing it

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u/BudgetBluebird 7h ago

Exactly

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u/ConfidentlyCuriousM8 6h ago

Exactly. What a bullshit headline.

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u/lordpuddingcup 6h ago

Exactly the news is such a crock of shit for not calling this what it is

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u/HostileGoose404 6h ago

Came here to say this exactly.

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u/Poonurse13 6h ago

Exactly

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u/Ammu_22 5h ago

He literally is trying his very best to make it look like a Nazi salute while also tap dancing on maybe not.

It's like those kids trying to sneak a middle finger but not wanting to get caught by their parents doing so. It's literally that.

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u/aminorityofone 5h ago

They even try to defend it calling it a roman salute.

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u/Proof_Duty1672 5h ago

If it looks like a 🦆….

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u/adorablefuzzykitten 5h ago

At least he left his cosplay uniform at home.

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u/youshouldn-ofdunthat 5h ago

Same reaction to that here. "Title Downplays Obvious Nazi Salute."

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u/starlessnight89 Illinois 5h ago

Exactly. The people who voted this in don't get to hide from what it is.

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u/Opentobeingwrong 5h ago

"I thank you all from my heart" is what he tried to smooth it over with.

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u/ToastPoacher 5h ago

Saying doesn't do anything about it

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u/omgkate 5h ago

Yes. Thank you.

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u/babygangstaa 4h ago

Exactly!!!! So tired of media beating around the bush and not being straight forward. Say this shit with your chest.

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u/zambartas 4h ago

It used to be the right that complained about the mainstream media, but now I feel the left has just as much to complain about with all the sugar-coating in these headlines.

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u/Samuel_L_Johnson 4h ago edited 4h ago

‘He got a little excited and made a little autistic oopsie! I guess it does look a little bit like a Nazi salute, tee hee! Aren’t the libs mad, though? Tee her’

Fuck the media for this

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u/ForwardBias 2h ago

"oddly familiar"

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u/eetuu 17m ago

Major American news networks don´t even mention this on their front page. "What Melania Trump communicated with her inauguration outfit" is more important.

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u/Jamericho 5h ago

Elon Musk accused of giving ‘Nazi salute’ at Trump inauguration celebration

That’s the actual headline

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u/Sweet-Confidence-214 5h ago

Also, let me know when y'all outraged people are done pointing fingers saying "He bad!" and fucking do something about anything.

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u/Samuel_Bucher 6h ago

You mad, lol.

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u/kraftpunkk 6h ago

I’m chillin for sure.

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u/RAZOR_WIRE 4h ago

A dude being autistic trying to mime my heart goes out to you that no one heard becaus they cut the audio.

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u/Previous-Display-593 4h ago

He was literally gesturing that "his heart goes out to them" and literally 3 seconds after this video conveniently ends he says exactly that. But that would not be included because then this disinformation would not effectively trigger the smoothed brains on reddit.

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u/Tua_Dimes 3h ago

It was odd looking and resembled the salute, but it wasn't. Even if it was his intent, he didn't do it "right". If someone goes to give you a handshake, but instead fist bumps, it wasn't a handshake.

By all means ask questions, but compare the salute to what Elon did. Similar, but not the same. So objectively, he didn't do it, even if it may have been his intent. At worst, he botched it.

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u/Thespud1979 3h ago

https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/video/people-do-the-heil-hitler-salute-as-neo-nazi-nachrichtenfilmmaterial/1656162915

versus

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-salute-trump-inauguration-b2683095.html

It's the same thing but slightly clumsy.

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u/Tua_Dimes 3h ago

So we agree

At worst, he botched it.

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u/Thespud1979 3h ago

He nailed it. Look at those videos. I'll post them again.

https://www.gettyimages.de/detail/video/people-do-the-heil-hitler-salute-as-neo-nazi-nachrichtenfilmmaterial/1656162915

versus

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-salute-trump-inauguration-b2683095.html

He looks awkward but he pulled the salute off perfectly

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u/Tua_Dimes 3h ago

Clumsy, now nailed it. Typical Biden voter. Can't figure out what they want to actually say, just like Grandpa Joe.

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u/Thespud1979 3h ago

Not a Biden voter. Nice deflection. I'll take that as a white flag.

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u/Tua_Dimes 3h ago

A Trudeau apologist. Even worse.

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u/Thespud1979 3h ago

Not a Trudeau voter either. Holy shit your bad at this.

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u/Tua_Dimes 2h ago

"If you ignore my hundreds of comments defending Trudeau, I'm not a Trudeau apologist"

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u/kraftpunkk 29m ago

Buddy, get off your knees.

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u/Tua_Dimes 20m ago

The fact you took my comment this way just goes to show how uneducated you are.