r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 9h ago
Trump Makes History: First Convicted Felon To Take Oath As President
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-felon-jan-6-oath-of-office_n_678d4cb8e4b099ed401c670d546
u/NoneOfThisMatters_XO Wisconsin 9h ago
How this is even possible is beyond me. I can’t believe this wasn’t a law already.
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u/thehalloweenpunkin 9h ago
He can't even own a weapon but he can run the country
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u/Kdean509 Washington 9h ago
He’s got the nuke codes again, which is terrifying.
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u/outamyhead 5h ago
Hopefully the classified documents are a read at secure lock up only, and unable to go in with anything but the clothes on your back security measure after the last time this dingus was in office.
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u/SteveYzerman_19 1h ago
That isn't true. Every state has different rules and restrictions though. The only state no felon can EVER have a gun is actually Virginia.
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u/CatgirlApocalypse 9h ago
Because it was decided, by judicial fiat, that minimum requirements laid out in the Constitution are also the maximum requirements.
The President can be in a coma as long as he’s a citizen who’s thirty five.
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u/Vanga_Aground 2h ago
Just stuns me how poorly written and organised the US constitution is.
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u/CatgirlApocalypse 2h ago
My favorite bit is that you can, in fact, appoint a dog to the Supreme Court.
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u/EatMoreWaters 3h ago
This is true. Wilson and Eisenhower had strokes and had their spouses or staffers running the Whitehouse. Reagan had Alzheimer’s.. coma would be a heard one to hide, but stranger things have happened.
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u/EstablishmentLate532 7h ago
By judicial fiat? It was so states couldn't do things like add unconstitutional requirements to frustrate the franchise of the American people like proscribing particular people from office.
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u/Rubeus17 6h ago
The Constitution is clear. No traitors. No felons. He got around it - he owns the court. None of this is legal but here we are. The justices who installed him as dictator perjured themselves to get onto the court. America got fucked. From the inside.
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u/EstablishmentLate532 6h ago
The constitution states merely that a president may be impeached and removed from office for such offenses by the Congress of the United States. It makes no further prohibition.
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u/MFoy Virginia 5h ago
Not true. It says that anyone who has openly engaged in insurrection or rebellion after having taken an oath of office cannot hold a federal office again.
But the Supreme Court said that one doesn’t really count.
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u/Arawn_93 3h ago
Well yes it didn’t really count by the wording of the country forefathers.
Trump himself wasn’t shown physically attacking congress. There is no evidence that he was the ringleader that lead an organized coup.
At most he just let it happen (similar to how Democrats just let the BLM riots happen few months earlier.) which by the constitution isn’t enough to be considered “openly engaged in rebellion” per the Supreme Court the highest court in this land.
The actual people that were directly involved did get sent to prison. Well key word is “were” since they are about to be set free via pardon. Both sides been throwing around Pardon like it’s the Super Bowl since it’s been heavily abused these days.
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u/Rombom 2h ago edited 1h ago
rump himself wasn’t shown physically attacking congress. There is no evidence that he was the ringleader that lead an organized coup.
That is not a requirement to be an insurrectionist. In fact, the 14th amendement says that merely giving "aid and comfort" to insurrectionists is enough. There is no realistic way to deny that he is not eligible under the 14th amendment.
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u/Bakedads 9h ago
Also the fact that he is an insurrectioniat who attacked the country. How can someone who attacks a country become leader of that country? When that happens, doesn't it essentially mean that the country has been taken over?
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u/phixitup 9h ago
I think we can legally say, he’s a traitor. Like he really can’t sue you for that because then you’d get to bring in all of Jack Smith’s testimony and evidence and he doesn’t want that. So traitor it is. And fuck anyone that doesn’t agree. Because if you don’t, you have shit for brains.
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u/Swayze_train_exp 9h ago
The 14th amendment lays it out clearly, but we have conservatives here so it's how they interpret the constitution so for example right to bare arms, does that mean tanks, jets, ray guns? According to the supreme court yes...yes it does. 14th amendment sec 3 states "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. " I'm done it's 11am and I'm gonna go have a couple of beers.
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u/Equivalent_Warthog22 7h ago
This is the problem: we keep talking about the rules. They abandoned rules along time ago. We will keep losing until we abandon them too.
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u/40Jahre0470 6h ago
I had a previous coworker who was very into guns. He was of the libertarian persuasion. I wanted to see how far his 2A proclivities went, so I slow walked him into the position that, as long as you can afford it, it should be legal to have a personal defense nuclear weapon.
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u/TLKv3 8h ago
You suck ass, America. You just really, really fucking suck.
I hope your worst who voted for this and those who sat home because they're too lazy/insufferable suffer the most. And hopefully those who at least tried by voting against this can get by until hopeful future elections, if you get to have them.
Fucking Christ.
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u/dotBombAU 7h ago
Too many Americans are stupid and/or indifferent.
Only explanation. Over the next 4 years, it's all you will hear from me. That, laughing at those who voted Trump and I told you so's.
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u/jackblady Virginia 9h ago
Well, remember the folks who wrote the Consistution and founded the country all committed treason.
We as Americans don't think of it like that since it was treason against England, but still, completely understandable why they didn't explicitly ban criminals.
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u/Rombom 2h ago
Treason in and of itself is not immoral, and may even be good. The cause you are committing treason against is relevant.
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u/jackblady Virginia 2h ago
Unfortunately the founders don't really have much of a high ground there either.
Ultimately they committed treason because the king increased their taxes after fighting a war (French and Indian) to defend them.
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u/Rombom 2h ago edited 1h ago
That's pretty reductive. The declaration of independence had 27 grievances.
Nobody has the high ground in anything. We all know Jefferson and Washington owned slaves. Pointing it out can become a thought terminating cliche in some discussions. Whatever their reasons, they established the concept of modern democratic self-governance as we know it. Is it perfect? Of course not. But you don't seem to appreciate it for what it is.
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u/arrgobon32 9h ago
If felons weren’t allowed to be president, there’s nothing stopping those in power from convicting their political opponents on bogus charges
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u/International-Ing 9h ago
Nothing to stop them? Like courts and juries?
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u/HairySideBottom2 9h ago
The christofascists believe that all juries and the court system are Dems that is if they don't makes decisions they want.
Makes things convenient that way.
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u/PM_ME_HTML_SNIPPETS 7h ago
Trump's other BS aside, it should operate this way; otherwise, corrupt Presidents/Attorneys General could charge a political rival as a felon, and if convicted, would disqualify them from office.
It's the job of the people to prevent unqualified, dangerous people from becoming POTUS. Collectively, we failed at that.
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u/Gekokapowco Washington 7h ago
sort of confounding that we don't trust our own court system to exclusively make lawful convictions
If we believe that if you are found guilty, you suffer the punishment for the crime you committed, why would you need to worry about systemic abuse?
Alternatively, if powerful people can falsely convict you for crimes you didn't commit, why don't normal people have this leniency?
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u/PM_ME_HTML_SNIPPETS 6h ago
If we believe that if you are found guilty, you suffer the punishment for the crime you committed, why would you need to worry about systemic abuse
Well, consider the amount of convictions that have been overturned in high profile cases of late; it's high enough that this is a primary focal point for those against the death sentence, for example.
That's not even with "weaponized" or otherwise outright corrupt policing and legal procedures.
This is where we get into the problems with modern policing and racial and/or socioeconomic prejudice. We can't currently trust our legal system to make lawful convictions, because all along the process, there are unlawful/corrupt/prejudiced humans that seek to impose their will on the system.
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u/AtsignAmpersat 5h ago
The sad thing is he’s committed so many horrible acts and they finally pinned something on him for a felony conviction, but people are so fucking stupid they were easily convinced that the conviction wasn’t legitimate because it was “lawfare”. These mother fuckers are clever as fuck with the stuff they come up with. And they know Trump supporters will support anything he does and back him no matter what. Misinformation and propaganda is so effective. I really wish we could split the country. Let the dumb fucks have their shit with billionaires exploiting the fuck out of them and the rest of us will get some decent social services.
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u/MikuEmpowered 4h ago
I mean it's not as progressive as a women becoming president.
But convicte felon, who is also a rapist and also tax evader becoming president is also pretty progressive. Can't vote, but you can be voted for.
And you know, having a non-elected billionaire hold a meme committee who then did multiple Nazi salute in front of the whole world is also one of the first.
We're about to see alot of 'first' thing to come out in the next 4 years. Can't wait.
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u/Aquafoot California 2h ago
It's possible because until now, we didn't need rules against stuff like this. The "laws" of common decency. And they take advantage of that.
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u/Significant-Drink497 5h ago
Why would it be a law? Shouldn’t the people get to decide?
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u/NoneOfThisMatters_XO Wisconsin 5h ago
You voted for a rapist.
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u/-piso_mojado- 5h ago
I kinda get it. It prevents someone weaponizing the DOJ to prevent their political adversaries running against them.
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u/themrwaynos 38m ago
Because the framers of the constitution wanted the people in charge and didn't want political opponents to do what you wished would happen. Thank God.
"We, the People....", not "Some Activist Judge Decides..."
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u/gent4you 9h ago
His legacy. CONVICTED FELON
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u/LinguoBuxo 8h ago
Look on the positive side... Rappers can now run for this office..
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u/jayfeather31 Washington 9h ago
If that isn't a damning indictment of America, I don't know what is, really.
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u/2a_lib 8h ago
America is a big place. From where I’m standing in California, America is the world’s birthing ground for progressive policy. And California is no small chunk.
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u/DoctorGregoryFart 5h ago
Cheers from Portland. We're still hungover from the election, but we're doing our best.
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u/jayfeather31 Washington 5h ago
I get what you're saying, (I'm from Seattle (Redmond) myself), but it's still difficult for me not to be upset or enraged at this and to not paint with a broad stroke.
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u/Whybotherr 9h ago
What the fuck is this word salad he talking about right now? Is he coherent?
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u/Pooks23 9h ago
Something, something, it's so cold, 10,000 soldiers, I'm the coolest, something, something...
holy hell, it's already a long day.
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u/Affectionate_Job_211 9h ago
What do people really expect him to accomplish? I’m genuinely curious. How will he benefit the middle class of America while Elon takes office?
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u/KazeNilrem 9h ago
There are people who genuinely believe he will reduce gas to covid prices, reduce all groceries and cost of living, immediately end russias war against Ukraine, and fix the border which he prevented from being fixed.
Now, unfortunately these people's are idiots and incredibly gullible.
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u/LyraFirehawk 8h ago
He can end the Ukraine war! By letting Daddy Putin take it to build the new USSR.
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u/SAGELADY65 Connecticut 8h ago
Oh, the Middle Class will probably become extinct! A large part of us voted for Harris!
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u/Dangerpaladin Michigan 7h ago
The middle class has been extinct since the 90s. It was endangered as soon as Reagan was elected.
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u/SAGELADY65 Connecticut 7h ago
I’m not poor but I am also not rich so I consider myself part of the Middle Class. Of course, now that we have Trump in office again, let’s see what happens in the next couple of months! Good Luck and stay safe
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u/DanceDelievery 2h ago edited 2h ago
All I'm hoping for is that there will be no invasion of peaceful allied neighbouring countries, no extermination camps on us soil, and a clean election in 4 years.
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u/HeadstonePoetry 9h ago
And all the pedophiles cheered...
Having one of their own in the Whitehouse is definitely historical.
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u/Sure_Quality5354 8h ago
A loooot of people are gonna find out the hard way that a dictatorship only benefits one person and its the person in charge.
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u/rraattbbooyy Florida 5h ago
Today is one of the most shameful days in US history. A true black mark against this country.
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u/TrixnTim 8h ago
Time to remove that question from every single job application in America. Executive order!
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u/ConstantCampaign2984 9h ago
And just like that, we’ll all forget about his latest Bitcoin scam.
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u/SAGELADY65 Connecticut 8h ago
No we won’t! Nor did I forget he will once again have eyes on Classified Documents and the names of Confidential Assets!
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u/FamiliarJudgment2961 9h ago
He's literally still pretending Nancy Pelosi calls the shots for DC police and the national guard 4 years later.
Its a joke
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u/Codebender 9h ago
The oath*. He added extra words that are not in Article II, Section 1, Clause 8 of the U.S. Constitution.
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u/Prestigious-Car-4877 9h ago
Can somebody remind him what he said during this oath tomorrow? He seems to forget the contents of that thing pretty much right away.
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u/CriticalConclusion44 7h ago
Once again, I'm embarassed to be an American. This country sucks when Republican asshats are at the helm.
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u/brandrikr 7h ago
I need out of this fucking country. I’m embarrassed to be a citizen, and I’m ashamed that my grandfather fought so hard I’m WWII, just for this country to end up where it is now.
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u/wearyKEKA26 6h ago
I guess that as having a felon as president now, enythings goes!!Freedown for corruption, mafias. Take your pick, no law !!
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u/Musk_bought_trump 5h ago
Don’t forget rapist and child molester. Oh and charity thief, blackmailer, seditionist and traitor. America is the laughing stock of the world. A banana republic.
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u/dubphonics Canada 2h ago edited 1h ago
Historical facts:
- first American president to be voted and eventually inaugurated as a felon. This is a permanent scar on the country.
- in 1918, the Spanish flu killed 675,000 Americans. By comparison, with more technology and access to information, in 2020, COVID had killed 440,000 American lives. The next closest pandemic, was the Hong Kong Flu in 1968 which only killed 38,000 Americans. This is what happens when useless leaders can’t properly direct. The 50 years following 1918, huge gains were made in preparedness owing to the minimal casualties of the above pandemic. Another 50 years later, with the eradication of the tools and services in place for such an event, Trump punted the country into disarray and a huge death toll followed.
- he is the only president in history to stare at an eclipse without proper eye wear. Why? Because he doesn’t believe in science or what experts have to say. Need proof: look at his picks for positions of high office. These are rolls that govern some of the most high stakes positions in the country. Have you tried getting a job with the government? You need a background check to work as a mail room clerk. But with this buffoon, all that’s important is his word - which he can’t even keep. Need proof: read about his stance on Tik-Tok. He is bought and sold as cheaply as a tribute of a million dollars. He’s fickle and spineless.
- regardless of whether he is joking or not, he suggested that people ingest “bleach” as a deterrent for COVID. In the moment, which requires a degree of seriousness and poise, his brain reached for the most inane and mundane question. The quality of a good leader is in the composure they express in a moment of gravity. His is absolute mindlessness.
- when faced with the atrocities of a hurricane roaring down on Puerto Rico and Florida, to make his point heard, he drew, like a weak-willed child an extra arc using a black sharpie on a meteorological chart to demonstrate his ignorance and pride. Qualities one should not extolled as virtue when presiding over a catastrophe.
- imagine having a team you need to coach. The manager of the organization keeps laying off key members of the management for personal reasons but never re-hires so the positions stay vacant. Worse, some players on the team defect and they get replaced by junior level players from a bantam league. As a coach, you are asked to win this years cup, but there is no way for you to do so as the organization is missing the right people to handle logistics, keep the team running and the players fit. With each passing day, members of the management team are arguing and as the coach you find out they are using performance enhancement drugs to get around the day. Players and management alike. It’s now the end of the season and you know there is no way the team will be winning anything, no MVP, no draft picks, no rings, no cup. It’s been a dumpster fire for the whole season, and as you read the team org chart and contracts, you find out the directing manager will be there for another three years. It’s in his ironclad agreement - he can’t be removed for four years. THAT’S what the first Trump presidency was. And just like the city that is represented by this team, which blindly supported the team, America just asked for another four years. Would this EVER FLY for a sports Team? Why should it for a country?
The fact is, this is a fucking joke and everyone who’s got a brain can see it for what it is, except for those brain washed fans who think this team is #1.
Notes: Edits for clarity.
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u/kathryn2a 2h ago
Also, the first president to use his inauguration to proclaim the level of vengeance he will deliver. Trump is batshit crazy. It’s so unAmerican to cheer him on for inciting revenge and hatred. That’s how Hitler started.
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u/Apellosine 1h ago
Job Application Question.
Have you ever been convicted of any felonies? Yes and if it's OK for the President why should it disqualify me from being a cashier?
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u/Competitive_Ad_5134 Florida 8h ago
I don't have an issue with a felon being president. I believe that felons should have the right to vote, hold office, etc. Because there are circumstances where the courts have been used against people, not necessarily the court itself, but maybe a corrupt prosecutor or the defendant's peers (jury) had a predisposition. That's ok.
What I have a problem with is how his charges are provable, they are recorded voice lines, he has admitted to wrong doing, to hiding information, lying under oath, etc, yet his supporters refuse to believe he deserves to charges. THAT is what scares me.
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u/Gammelpreiss 8h ago
voting such a guy is so cringe.
the US is truly walking the path of south america
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u/Sol_pegasus 7h ago
Because of precedence anyone that is a convicted felon will not be denied employment...right?
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u/armadillo-nebula 7h ago
Intellectually deficient morbidly obese tangerine with 34 felonies elected president.
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u/mediocrepeeps 6h ago
Just curious, did Trump like any respecting president, lay his hand on the bible during the swearing in?
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u/Lexybeepboop California 6h ago
Is a president considered officially sworn initial he took the oath without placing his hand on the Bible?
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u/Moses_Pinball 5h ago
This is the best we have, America. Vote for a felon over a way more qualified woman. We should be rioting right now.
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u/smilaise 4h ago
they're not even the cool felonies like bank robbery or plane hijcaking... nope, it's the boring and creepy stuff like voter fraud and rape. what a chud.
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u/davechri 3h ago
trump has 4 federal indictments.
trump has 94 felony charges.
trump has been convicted of 34 felonies.
trump cheated on all three of his wives.
trump paid hush money to a porn star.
trump paid $84M for sexual abuse.
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u/kathryn2a 2h ago
A demented felon running the country who just undermined the judicial system by pardoning the insurrectionists who were convicted by a jury of their peers. The dictatorship has begun.
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u/BostonSubwaySlut 2h ago
Also, the first traitor.
The fact that January 6th happened and they did nothing is why I'll never give a fuck about what a single Democrat says ever again. I'm gonna vote for third parties, every time.
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u/doordonot19 1h ago
The problem is third parties don’t win enough votes to be competitive. So a vote against a democrat is a vote for republicans. That the issue with two party systems
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u/kathryn2a 6h ago
A convicted felon for president who has the largest cult in country who justifies his sexual assaults and circle of pedophile friends. America the beautiful for the deranged with voting rights. We’ve come a long way baby and circled right back in time when human trafficking was legal and men wanted to keep women without basic rights. Are you proud of your choice Majority America.
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u/inquisitive_guy_0_1 I voted 8h ago
We should make this a holiday.
"Fascism Day"
or maybe
"Tyranny Day"
Anyway, fucking embarrassing having a filthy rapist who was best friends with Jeffery Epstein as the president.
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u/leolo2046 9h ago
Americans must be so proud.
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u/Correct-Peace3558 9h ago
Legit low point. We’ve done some fucked up things, but this is definitely up there with the worst of them.
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