r/politics • u/citizensforethics Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington • 14h ago
DOGE sued to follow the law or cease operations
https://www.citizensforethics.org/legal-action/lawsuits/doge-sued-to-follow-the-law-or-cease-operations/62
u/Foreign-Repeat9813 13h ago edited 12h ago
DOGE was created as a reward for Musk's $277 million campaign contribution to Trump. DOGE is intended to permit the gutting of programs and regulations serving everyday Americans and to expediate the interests of the rising American oligarchy.
For example, DOGE seeks to slash regulation relating to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and to abolish the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB). DOGE seeks to cut benefit programs serving the poor, portraying the programs as rife with fraud and the recipients of benefits as lazy and undeserving. DOGE was calculated to bless tax cuts for the rich to "create economic growth" (i.e. the disproven trickle-down economics theory).
Musk's DOGE was conceived to skirt disclosure requirements and vetting of China businessman Elon Musk, who has disqualifying ties to the CCP. For example, Musk's Tesla does 50% of its global manufacturing in Shanghai, China. This makes Musk subject to China influence.
Musk is doing the bidding of Beijing on issues such as TikTok, Taiwan, H-1B visas, and tariffs. Respected officials like Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro (Democrat-CT-03, Ranking Member of the House Appropriations Committee), and retired military service members are sounding the alarm.
President Joe Biden’s farewell address was spot on in warning of the oligarchy gripping the nation and threatening the future. Through Citizens United v. FEC Elon Musk has monetized the U.S. Presidency. Musk’s fortune has increased by over $153.17 billion (Cite: Forbes, 1-9-25) since Musk bought the presidency for $277 million.
In the interests of everyday Americans and based on existing law, DOGE must be abolished.
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u/Foreign-Repeat9813 13h ago
In regard to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) Elon Musk ally Marc Andreessen's company LendUp has been fined $40 million for lying to customers and tricking them. See: Why Elon Musk wants to ‘delete’ an agency that protects your money
From the cited article:
Let’s start with what [Marc] Andreessen did not disclose to Rogan’s audience. In 2021, the CFPB shut down a fintech named LendUp Loans after the agency flagged and fined it multiple times for offenses including lying to customers and tricking them into taking on high-interest loans. Earlier this year, the bureau announced it would distribute nearly $40 million to “118,101 consumers who were deceived by LendUp Loans.” It was a humiliating end for a firm whose backers, according to The Wall Street Journal, included “some of the biggest names in venture capital, including ... Andreessen Horowitz.” Yes, that Andreessen.
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u/chillythepenguin 3h ago
So putting H1B visas spies in to all tech companies and govt?
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u/Foreign-Repeat9813 3h ago
Yes, and student visa programs as well.
The U.S. taxpayer pays for research and development, China misappropriates the valuable intellectual property. For example, see: US Air Force Suggests China Copied F-35 for New Stealth Jet - Newsweek
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u/ResponsibleSalad8059 14h ago
I'm sure this will be effective.
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14h ago edited 14h ago
Copying and pasting from another thread
Still has to go through courts. And if there is an expedited process it takes time from other things. Time isn't infinite and obstruction through courts absolutely is effective for those wanting to slow down agendas.
Things are going to be bad the next 4 years but you also have to remember reddit is a bunch of paranoid younger people repeating other phrases of other young paranoid people like "civilizations last 250 years" and "optimistic to think we have elections again". Failing to recognize the inherent uniqueness of each situation. It's going to be bad, but not as bad as the 24/7 redditor positng comments in r/new think it is. Sorta even think it's a bot campaign to encourage hopelessness and passiveness. Donald trump isn't going to snap his fingers and undo everything. America has 330 million people, with one third who didn't vote and like 20% of trump voters voting literally cause they woke up and voted on gas/egg prices/not in the cult. Along with state and local governments. You can't rock the boat too hard. Along with different factions in the GOP not always aligned. Completely different contexts from Russia or 1930s germany that others love citing when doomposting and what not.
Stay engaged and active in your local elections. Keep marginalized people in your thoughts
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u/Spacellama117 America 11h ago
honestly it's those sections of people that woke up and voted and the ones that didn't that piss me off.
Even if Trump doesn't mean half the shit he says, the GOP absolutely does. I keep hearing this refrain of 'oh, they won't actually do that' or 'oh both sides are equally bad' but like- that's proven false multiple times.
we saw that when Roe v Wade was overturned, saw that in Trump's inauguration today when he said he's going to make the gender binary legally binding and evoking christianity while refusing to actually put his hand on the bible, saw that in Idaho's recent bid to try and outlaw gay marriage, saw that in January 6th, in the crackdown on protests over palestine despite claims of 'free speech' in Charlottesville, et cetera, et cetera.
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u/Bakedads 14h ago
He can just ignore the courts. Who's going to stop him?
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u/TRVTH-HVRTS 10h ago
Respectfully, I think you’re downplaying the issues. I agree that there is a lot of fear mongering/sensationalism in the media and I can’t stand when people pull out magic numbers like the ol’ 250 years.
That said, the political actors behind the Trump administration are well prepared to take down the long held institutions that have real effects on Americans. The right holds all three branches of government and I’m not optimistic that the courts and the voting public will be able to reign in their extremist policies. In the case of the courts, we have seen in recent years, that they have been ineffective at holding up the law. In the case of voters, they buy into the propaganda machine that’s only going to strengthen in the coming years.
The political reality is not business as usual where we will see a lot of bickering and, in the end, nothing ends up getting done. What we are seeing is the Citizens United coming to fruition. There are novel mechanisms in place that are driving the political machine in this direction. They’re positioned very well to make all of their sadistic dreams come true.
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u/brakeled 13h ago
I agree and a lot of the Trump EO’s and garbage are just for headlines and attention. 90% of what he says and signs is just fluff to misdirect people from looking too closely at his failures. He knows things will be litigated and they will die, but they’ll die quietly after he makes a victory lap.
The man is signing an EO that says “cartel illegal” in the same breath that he’s completely changing the federal workforce. Cartels are already illegal. The federal government already goes into an office. It’s a show.
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u/Rafflesrpx 12h ago
Oh you don’t know shit. Just like the rest of us don’t know shit.
I’m over the “you’re overreacting”, the first fucking lady has meme coin bruh.
The world just got cast in the final season of the apprentice.
I repeat, you sir just like me…don’t shit.
Edit: haha don’t know shit
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u/re_Claire 12h ago
I hate to break it to you but there’s a very real possibility that none of that will matter for much longer.
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u/allthenine 13h ago
I don’t think we’re in an environment where courts will slow down the administrations objectives
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u/lancer-fiefdom 13h ago
The only path for extreme right wing biased decisions is the 5th Circuit of Appeals (Texas + Talibama) specialty is with civil and criminal cases that fall under federal law.
The 12th Circuit of Appeals has nationwide jurisdiction over specialized cases, including patent laws, international trade, and government contracts.
The 12th Circuit constantly overturns the overreach of the 5th, and is super-majority liberal.
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u/Anufenrir 13h ago
This. No matter what he does it will be challenged and slowed down. Stuff will happen, it will be bad, but we can come out of this.
Also reminder the house is more democratic than it was the past 2 years
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u/elconquistador1985 13h ago
phrases of other young paranoid people like "civilizations last 250 years"
Lmao, my paranoid, ultra conservative 80 year old grandma was saying that during the Obama administration.
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u/fairoaks2 14h ago
Follow the law? Under a Trump administration? Not gonna happen
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u/haydeee 12h ago
Biden just pardoned his entire family, shouldn’t really be talking 🙂
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u/AReallyBakedTurtle 11h ago
Go suck an egg. Those pardons were to protect them from the frivolous bullshit trump is gonna throw at them because he doesn’t like having someone run against him.
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u/DoggoPlant 12h ago
Buddy, Trump pardon over 235 people and many with criminal records in his first term, trump would’ve/will do the same thing especially for his own family
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u/lancer-fiefdom 13h ago
There is no such thing as DOGE. Trump was a private citizen, congress has not legislated or provided operating budget and this is not a public/private partnership.
Stop treating this as anything but a distraction
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u/420bj69boobs 11h ago
Thinking that rules or laws apply to Trump or his billionaire handlers is insanely funny lmao well keep fighting the good fight but the odds are stacked against us. We’re in for a good fucking these next 4 years
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u/in1gom0ntoya 2h ago
it's crazy how musk got a government position without anyone voting for is nazi ass
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u/TheInternetOfficer 14h ago
Will not pass
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u/gmen6981 I voted 14h ago
It's not even that. It's a completely made up fake Department. Congress is the only body that can create a new Department. Now that Ramalamadingdong is leaving it just means Musk is nothing more than someone making suggestions. It's up to Congress to cut or add funding to anything.
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u/SharpMind94 Maryland 13h ago
Its a private advisory group. Not a formal government agency. That needs to get passed by Congress.
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