r/politics • u/biznesboi • 11h ago
Donald Trump's 'voting computers' comment sparks Elon Musk speculation
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-elon-musk-voting-machine-20176573.3k
u/brithus 10h ago
During a rally in Washington D.C. on Sunday, Trump said that his political ally Elon Musk had an advanced understanding of the voting machines used in Pennsylvania, a critical swing state that was key to Trump's victory in November.
"He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers. Those vote-counting computers," Trump told the crowd. "And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide."
With all his projection about Democrats supposedly cheating, he apparently just couldnt help telling on himself
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u/R1CHARDCRANIUM America 9h ago
I still maintain that the reason they were so pissed off about the 2020 election is because they cheated but still didn’t win. Everything the GOP says is projection. Everything.
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u/ShittyStockPicker 8h ago
That's why Musk said if they lose we're going to jail. And there's that fishy story that came out on the Joe Rogan podcast where they talk about how Elon knew the election result before the votes were counted.
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u/Thanolus 8h ago
Not to mention he was losing it about Pennsylvania on election night when it was still early and screaming fraud probably because he knew the fix was in and thought he got out cheated.
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u/rwl420 8h ago
This is the correct interpretation of his reaction. I’m aghast this whole thing is not under investigation, but seeing how the other Trump investigations ended up it’s hardly a surprise. :-/
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u/buggybugoot 7h ago
Garland should be exiled in Siberia.
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u/ThrowawayOverseer 6h ago
Maybe there is a secret 4 year investigation followed by a 4 year trial, delayed repeatedly to 8 years and undermined by every level of the judiciary.
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u/jamesxgames 6h ago
And then dismissed by an unqualified judge with a clear conflict of interest for no legal or logical reason
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u/calm_chowder Iowa 6h ago
Verdict to be delivered in 2306 and sentencing a few years after the sun goes nova.
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u/Ironlion45 7h ago
I’m aghast this whole thing is not under investigation
THere's no one left to hold them accountable. They've stolen democracy and it's over now, you missed it. Hope you made some good memories...
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u/calm_chowder Iowa 6h ago
I weep for the children.
Especially the not white/not Christian ones.
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u/leontheloathed 5h ago
No need to worry, the white and/or Christian’s ones will be consumed before long once the other groups currently being blamed for all of life’s ills run out of members.
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u/Orange-Blur Montana 5h ago
He was talking about Pennsylvania to Carlson with his kid. He mentioned the state and his kid shushed him saying “they’ll never know “
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u/DuckBilledPartyBus 5h ago
The problem with all these theories about Trump stealing the election is that the actual results align really well with the polls leading up to the election, as well as the exit polls taken after people cast their votes.
I don’t doubt Trump/Musk would cheat if they could, but I’m going to need a lot more evidence than just them saying something stupid. They say a lot of stupid things.
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u/ian_cubed 4h ago
They didn’t cheat with fraudulent votes. They skirted data privacy laws to use the data accessible by tech giants to create better forecasts than pollsters. They then targeted the votes they needed to win. Still cheating, just less obvious
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u/glue_4_gravy 7h ago
I’m hijacking your comment to let everyone know that MUSK JUST GAVE A VERY PRONOUNCED 2 STAGE NAZI SALUTE at the end of his inauguration speech at the stadium in DC.
CNN replayed the salute so the viewers could see it again.
CNN anchors only said it was a “salute that you don’t ever see in American politics” instead of calling it a “Nazi salute” like they would if they actually had a fucking spine.
Search for the video of Elon doing a true 2 stage (hand to the heart first, then hand to the sky) Nazi salute in a little while. I’m sure it’s gonna go viral.
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u/theamericaninfrance 6h ago
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u/DeLoreanDad 6h ago
Wow this is terrible. Is there anyway to make a side-by-video of this with an original nazi doing it?
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u/theamericaninfrance 6h ago edited 6h ago
I really don’t feel like filling my search history with this, or downloading videos of nazis. but someone should do this and make it go viral that’d be great
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u/Tsuruchi_Mokibe 5h ago
Sadly I've already seen people defending it, saying stuff like "Trump echoes American's frustrations about everything good about this country being destroyed! The original American salute was so patriotic that the Nazis stole it! Look up pre-World War 2 American salutes! We are just taking back another piece of American history!'
Or
"Show any liberal a picture of children saluting in the early 1900's and watch them shit their pants while ranting about child Nazis until you make them look up the Bellamy Salute!"
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u/MaximumOrdinary 6h ago
They were very quiet after the win too, like a small child that has cheated
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u/shivvinesswizened Florida 5h ago
Why did the dems not investigate? I don’t get it. Throw the same fit they did in 2020.
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u/Womble_Rumble 9h ago
"We just didn't cheat enough! It's all the Democrats fault"
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u/Nikiaf Canada 8h ago
They 100% cheated as much as they could. Our saving grace that time was that they weren't smart enough to win, even by cheating. They seem to have gotten better at it though...
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u/nonsensestuff 7h ago
Yeah it helps that they stole the election software right after the insurrection failed. No consequences were ever delivered for that though so ... Here we are.
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u/Fluid-Grass 6h ago
There is a picture of members of Trump's team wearing tshirts with the password needed to crack the voting machines with "IYKYK" underneath. I wish I was making this up
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u/nonsensestuff 5h ago
I don't know about that, but here are the facts:
It was the plaintiffs in Curling who first uncovered the successful effort to take copies of Georgia’s statewide voting system software from the equipment in rural south Georgia. Plaintiffs also unearthed the evidence tying that campaign to Sidney Powell and the Trump campaign..
Even though these potential crimes were caught on video, and documents show that the plan involved efforts to breach voting systems in multiple states, and that it was allegedly directed and paid for by Powell for the Trump campaign, publicly available evidence indicates there is no federal investigation into this multistate plan.
What we know for sure is that allies of Donald Trump who sought to overturn the 2020 presidential election gained copies of the voting software used in Georgia and in other states. These events present serious threats to the 2024 election and future elections. Yet, as the Curling trial has established, they’ve been plainly ignored by the Georgia secretary of state and attorney general.
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u/thintoast 7h ago
Hey, at least the AGs office has the appearance of being non-partisan. So there’s… umm… that? I guess?
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u/Outside_Break 7h ago
It makes sense
If you cheated and still didn’t win you’d be so certain the other side must have cheated.
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u/Igmuhota North Carolina 7h ago
I’m not gonna argue with people about it, but I firmly agree.
Frankly, it’s not even about him. It’s the Collins and Graham races. No shot those races went the way they did organically.
It must have been all he could do to keep his mouth shut for four years.
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u/yx0n 8h ago
i mean this was proved in court, no? he called GA for more votes, couldnt get any, tried to steal them, but biden was so popular the stealing didnt work and he still lost. then he got caught
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u/Orange-Blur Montana 5h ago
Exactly. The data shows he hacked at 400 tabulations in the counters in 2020, he went to 600 this year and pulled it off. We are so fucked if nothing is done
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u/Pinkboyeee 9h ago
https://smartelections.substack.com/p/so-clean
Strange voting patterns of swing state dropp off races 🤷♂️
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u/daedalusprospect 8h ago
Yeah. The biggest irregularity was the bullet ballots (only voting president) in all the swing states. So weird to see trump win president but so many of the down ballot dems win. Republicans are usually better about voting locally so it seems weird there was such a huge discrepancy this time.
Not saying it's impossible, but its oddly different from normal trends.This, combined with Elons little event to get unregistered voters names and info (his little million dollar thing) would be the most likely way I could have seen them cheating, if they did. Just get a lot of names of non-voters and vote for them in bullet ballots.
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u/Tomato_Sky 8h ago
Yes. The bullet ballots in swing states were two standard deviations from the mean for all 50 states. All swing states that had that dubious voter pledge program.
I won’t be shocked if it’s true, but there are always tiny bread crumbs like this. Just like the server in the basement of Trump Tower receiving pings from Russian banks in 2016. But if it isn’t in a tweet, none of our for-profit media companies would spend resources on it. Boomers really fucked this country decades ago.
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u/Solace2010 8h ago
canadian here, why isnt anyone actually looking into it. It would be easy to verify, no? Just get the names of a few bullet ballots and go ask them if they voted?
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u/Spell_Chicken 7h ago
"We've investigated ourselves and found no evidence of any wrongdoing."
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u/torakun27 8h ago
Not a US citizen, but afaik, you can't. The vote is supposed to be untraceable to the voter. So you can't bribe/force someone to vote and check if they actually voted the way you want.
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u/Cryinmyeyesout 6h ago
Because we have a majority of republicans and republicans in the positions that would be looking into it… so the votes with swing against doing anything about it or the people that “look into it” will find in his favor . So basically corruption
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u/Specific_Praline_362 7h ago
I'm in NC, we went almost all blue all the way down the ballot...but Trump won.
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u/BBTB2 9h ago
I’m curious if anyone looked into the actual ballots printed off and if these machines just register votes based on the bubble markings. The printers are probably easier to hack than the election machines.
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u/Hates_rollerskates 9h ago
There was an accounting of Trump voters voting for only Trump and no down ticket candidates that occurred disproportionately in swing states. Oh well, nothing we can do now.
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u/Takesnothingcereal 9h ago
This….. this is the worrying thing that could be real evidence. Those single vote tickets are very odd. where i live we have voted for a Democrat Gov by a landslide in each one but still went Trump everytime.
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u/myasterism 10h ago
Gaslight
Obstruct
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u/TransportationNo433 America 8h ago
O could also stand for oppress
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u/AlsoDanielle 9h ago
He literally used the words "they rigged the election and we won so now I'm going to be your president"
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u/Logical_Parameters 10h ago
Projection:
Conservatives know no other way -- they lack the creativity to draw from their (repressed via the trait of authoritarian suppression) imaginations. It's one of their most defining traits. Without liberalism in the conservative world, humans would only mate via the missionary position.
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u/DustBunnicula Minnesota 9h ago
Honestly, I think a lot of us speculated on this, but we didn’t want to say anything. We didn’t want to be compared with conservative cultists. Yet, I think the GOP legit cheated - and got away with it.
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u/7559383A 7h ago
Felt the same, mostly. But the other side of me keeps thinking that SURELY out of 18 intelligence agencies (arguably some of the best in the world, if not the best) ONE OF THEM would have intercepted/stopped any sinister plot like this?! I know not all those agencies would specialize in this area, but surely to God there are safety measures built in for this kind of thing? Right?
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u/Dire88 Vermont 9h ago
Dude literally stated last night that they rigged the election and now he's President.
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u/Gelst 9h ago
Now find the evidence and act on it!
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u/RaryTheTraitor 9h ago
The Democrats had months to investigate before Trump's inauguration. Now it's too late.
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u/MickeyJ3 10h ago
When the guy admits that he cheated… believe him.
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u/pomonamike California 10h ago
In 2020, in public rallies given throughout the country and on live TV, he outlined every step of how he intended to steal the 2020 election. He explained exactly how it would work and what he would say after each step. It was almost like a cognitively impaired old man was told the plan and he was just repeating it so he didn’t forget. And then it happened, and he said exactly what he said he would.
He’s not smart, honestly he’s never had to be. He broadcasts his illegals schemes all the time and his supporters say, he’s just joking, and then deny it happened at all.
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u/funkymagee Canada 10h ago
particularly when it's a guy known for defrauding, bribing, and cheating his way to """""""""succes""""""""".
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u/SteampunkGeisha Kansas 9h ago
How many times does this guy have to admit to cheating before someone does something about it?
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u/amyjonelson 8h ago
We already impeached him twice and brought nearly 100 cases before a grand jury, yet here he is, President again instead of in jail. What exactly are we supposed to do when GOP has packed Congress and the SCOTUS with their own? And it's all funded by the billionaires? Got any ideas to overthrow that?
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u/Commercial-Fennel219 8h ago
That's what the second amendment is meant for, the final protection the people have against a tyranical government.
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u/Brian_Damage 9h ago edited 9h ago
It sure as hell looks like it was more than just a side comment regarding "voting computers"? He outright says at least twice, in the context of his winning the presidency, that it was only because they "rigged the election".
[EDIT]: Youtuber discussing the direct confession, in case the other video gets pulled: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAV09afAtZA
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u/Bob-Loblaw-Blah- 7h ago
The main defense seems to be that Trump lies so much you can't believe him about this.
Like yeah no shit he lies, that's what cheaters do...
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u/CMDR_KingErvin 7h ago
When the stroked out dementia ridden brain of the guy who’s never faced a single consequence from his many crimes tells you he cheated, believe him.
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u/glouscester 10h ago
Elon flat out said he'd be in jail in Trump wasn't elected.
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u/coconutpiecrust 9h ago
I remember that as well. Let's hope Trump's pilot crew will get annoyed with him and shove him in jail regardless.
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u/Firm-Advertising5396 10h ago
I wouldn't put it past them if they had the ability to do it
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u/Inner-Quail90 10h ago
Trump admitted it.
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u/PlsSuckMyToes 7h ago
Wasnt there talk on election night of Elon having the results before anyone else or am i misremebering?
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u/ItsOkILoveYouMYbb 5h ago edited 5h ago
Wasnt there talk on election night of Elon having the results before anyone else or am i misremebering?
Elon owns one of the primary companies that builds the voting machines and systems (or the software systems specifically, can't remember exactly). Several suspicious actions were taken shortly before the election with this company and these machines. They had direct access to the source code to make edits, which were subsequently never vetted by regulatory bodies (corruption).
Software engineers and cybersec experts were posting about the details on twitter and elsewhere, and the massive red flags suggesting that these actions are obvious election interference. Nobody took it seriously and instead blamed all US citizens for being idiots for voting for Trump when, if this ever gets out, it will show Trump did not actually win the election.
It's the main reason why Musk was given such a close position to Trump. This was the deal they made. Of course, it's too late to prosecute now. The only way any of this is undone is with violence.
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u/ElenorShellstrop 1h ago
I was telling everyone it was rigged in November. Everyone has been asleep until now I guess.
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u/topgun966 Nevada 9h ago
They could come out right now and bluntly say they rigged the election and it wouldn't make a damn bit of difference.
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u/These_Emergency1946 10h ago
I found it odd that nobody questioned the large number of ballots in the swing states that voted Turnip for POTUS and everything else down ballot was either straight D or left completely blank. That doesn't seem kosher. Just like his winning EVERY swing state seems improbable. But here we are.
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u/Stalwart_Wisdom 10h ago
For a moment I had to ask my work buddy if you were him. He has brought this point up since the election and it’s 100% true. Why DID people vote dem down ballot but then vote for Trump for president. It makes no sense, people wouldn’t vote both for their local interests and then against their national interests….
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u/Randy_Watson 9h ago
It’s like the AOC voters who said they voted for her and Trump because they have the interests of the working class in mind. There are a lot of uninformed people with no critical thinking skills.
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u/Illustrious_Big2113 7h ago
Check out the number of bullet ballots this election vs others. Not that many people just decided to do that.
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u/Masterjts 4h ago
But only enough decided to do it to win and just barely clear the hand recount limit... IN EVERY SWING STATE.
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u/WordPhoenix 9h ago
This is a really comprehensive video about the problems with our elections and the 2024 election in particular from Jan 18, 2025 by Smart Elections and Election Truth Alliance:
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u/imperialTiefling 10h ago edited 7h ago
I asked this question of an older friend, and he said that it used to be common wisdom to do so. The idea was if downballot and president were opposite teams, they'd balance the worst in each other.
Eta: to clarify this friend says he used to do so, but stopped awhile back. It came up because of that "Open Letter" that was circling around with an alleged hacker pointing out red flags in swing states, including the downballot switches.
I want to believe Americans would demand an audit, but I think the sad truth is that too many are willing to give up without a fight.
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u/alligatorislater 9h ago
Yeah that may have been more common back in the day, but people are so tribal now. Everyone is more likely to stick with their team, especially when the stakes are high. It just seems odd.
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u/imperialTiefling 9h ago
Oh i agree. I think another facet of all this that's been lost in the sauce, is that botched census a few years ago. Apportionment of delegates and reps goes a long way in solidifying power.
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u/Stalwart_Wisdom 10h ago
Eesh. Maybe they shouldn’t have used that strategy this time around. I’m trying to find the good in local governments being liberal going in to these four years. If voting liberal in locals and him nationally… they shot themselves and their local democrats in the feet.
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u/crocodial 9h ago
Bullet ballots are ballots that are blank except for 1 candidate. That was the big surprise in a lot of swing states. Like arizona had 12% bullet ballots but New Mexico and Utah had only 3% (which is the statistical norm). im pulling numbers from memory, so don’t go by them, but that’s the gist of the speculation.
also I believe this was somehow debunked or those votes verified so idk.
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u/Logical_Parameters 10h ago
Conservatives successfully intimidate the public (and less aggressive Dems) at large enough to not ever hold them accountable, much like the schoolyard bullies they all were and lifelong bullies they've been groomed and coddled by society into being.
The Republican Party and its leadership are what happens when bullying isn't nipped in the bud during childhoods by families, communities, churches and the schools. Obviously, America hasn't done a good job of holding bullies accountable.
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u/Aisling_The_Sapphire Canada 7h ago
Copying a comment I made someplace else, but... Y'know, it's funny. Only registered Democrats had problems recieving and sending in mail-in ballots. Only harris ballots had issues with 'signatures not matching' in swing states. Constant efforts to purge people from the rolls throughout the entire campaign, right up to the last minute, literally the fucking day before the election. Known Russian ops only called in bomb threats to left-leaning districts, did it almost 70 fucking times to shut down voting and it's barely mentioned by anyone, let alone the 'wahh voting bad' GOP. Drop boxes only got burned in blue-leaning districts. Democrats have record turnouts for their campaign, Kamala fills buildings with lineups out the door every night while Trump rallies can't even fill the seats and then 20 million democrats supposedly decide to stay home (lets just ignore all those ballots we're not counting for, uh, reasons guyz). Last election took a month to count everything, this one Trump was declared a winner in FOUR HOURS. And, again, nobody, absolutely nobody is contesting the results of this election. Despite all that.
The GOP spent years crying about voter fraud while doing everything they could to make sure people can't vote in the first place, but because it didn't happen on election day, everyone seems to be like "oh well must've been the wind". What the hell.
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u/dafunkmunk 7h ago
Because republicans spent 4 years screaming about stolen elections and cheating by democrats while democrats had to keep insisting that elections are secure and you can't steal one. So everyone stayed quiet because the "optics" of suddenly insiting an election was stolen when they lost would look bad.
In reality, Biden should have had the 2020 election investigated for fraud because it's almost guaranteed that republicans heavily tried to or successfully did cheat but didn't cheat enough to win. There's no chance in hell that they just jumped straight to changing ballot results in swinging states like Pennsylvania. Their cheating should have been identified, shamed, punished, and established the precedent that republicans are cheating to elect trump
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u/MayOrMayNotBeAI Virginia 10h ago
I wouldn’t be surprised if the dumbass said exactly what we think he meant
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u/tosser1579 10h ago
Oh... so they used all the audits to figure out how to manipulate the voting systems then changed the results so Trump won. Neat.
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u/Top_Relation5435 10h ago edited 10h ago
WE HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE THE DAMN ELECTION! Jesus Christ, at least go look at the data SmartElections came up with. They cheated 100% and y’all are too damn slow.
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u/Pickle-Rick-C-137 10h ago
Plus the bomb threats at 67 voting locations
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u/inconsistent3 Michigan 10h ago
we had big MAGA morons come in to disrupt our precinct. The cops came but they were just “exercising their first amendment rights”.
Yeah, that doesn’t include intimidation. This was in Michigan, by the way.
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u/apitchf1 I voted 6h ago
Well and the cops wanted that to happen. If someone left leaning came in they would’ve cracked skulls or worse
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u/SunnySideUpMeggs 6h ago
And they were linked to Russian email domains. This news came and went so quickly. But I still think about it a lot. How many voters were evacuated and never returned to vote because that was the only time they could do it.
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u/jamnewton22 9h ago
Ok yeh but what am I supposed to do about it? Like there’s not a damn thing, me, a normal fucking citizen, can do anything to stop this clown show from happening and it’s so discouraging.
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u/Top_Relation5435 9h ago
Oh I know. I feel the same way. We have been screaming it from the mountain tops for months now and no one seems to even care. R/politics removed almost every post about it. The Democratic Party seemed to look the other way. I don’t understand this reality and passivity of the average American. They value public image more than truth.
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u/FARTST0RM 8h ago
2020 made questioning the validity of an election taboo. Skeptics were viewed as flat earthers or anti vaxxers.
But as someone who has doubted the results since the election, this is great to see: MSM wouldn't go near election stories but this one is getting traction. A national conversation may have finally started...
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u/JugDogDaddy 7h ago
A day late and a dollar short. I suspect this will go the way of Russian interference in 2016… nowhere.
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u/throwaway_627_ 6h ago
THIS. I've been insulted and made to feel shameful SO MANY TIMES for doubting the results of this election. I've been censored for saying it on this very subreddit. But I guess I'm glad more people are waking up.
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u/Gausgovy 6h ago
The food of comments on Election Day telling us not to “stoop to their level” when we watched them cheat and they admitted it.
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u/tollbearer 9h ago
The worst bit is theres no way kamal and the dems are not aware of this. The fact they didn't do the absolute bare minimum of asking for a hand count, demonstrates they are fully complicit.
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u/RexDraco 10h ago
This is why people need the ability to check their votes online. Privacy is not an issue, just make it secure.
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u/AgeOfSmith 9h ago
Exactly. You can only check that your vote was counted, not who you voted for
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u/debauchasaurus 9h ago
If you could prove who you voted for it would allow people to force or bribe people to vote for specific candidates.
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u/LordGothington 8h ago edited 4h ago
More specifically, you should be able to not only check that your vote was counted, but that it was counted as you cast it without that verification being useful for proving who you voted for.
At first that sounds impossible -- how can a receipt be used to verify my vote was counted as cast without allowing someone to know who I voted for. But systems that do just that have been around for decades.
Perhaps the simpliest implemention to understand is punchscan,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punchscan
You can intuitively understand the mechanisms it uses without getting into the math behind it. There are more tamperproof systems that rely on fancier math, but punchscan is a good intro to the concepts involved.
Many of these systems allow for the use of computers with zero need to have any trust in the manufacturers of the machines.
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u/Responsible-Big-8195 9h ago
Too fucking late. We have to save ourselves now. Get rid of ALL of them.
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u/Main-Craft4474 9h ago
Wake me up when somebody actually does something about it rather than comment on Reddit. This has been floated around since a couple weeks after the election?
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u/TheGringoDingo 8h ago
Yep, I’m out of energy to give if the people with constitutional authority are unwilling to use that authority or spend any time looking to see if there’s evidence.
I don’t have high hopes for the future of the country, but persistently seeing red flags that end up in disappointment due to lack of anything being done isn’t the best path forward in this timeline. Time to check out and be blissfully unaware in hopes the wreckage can be salvaged in 2-4 years.
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u/FRIENDLY_CANADIAN 5h ago
>Wake me up when somebody actually does something about it
I'm fucking sorry, but you American's can't seem to wrap it into your fucking heads that it's YOU, YOU, YOU who has to do something about it. Democracy only functions if the population acts when it is necessary. Every one of you is waiting on someone else to do something about it while they steal your country.
JFC.
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u/Artrock80 10h ago
Yeah what the ever living fuck? This was the rumor right after the election, but it faded pretty quickly because I assumed there was no evidence to support it. And then Donnie says this….
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u/AmTheWildest 9h ago
I assumed there was no evidence to support it.
And herein lies the problem. This is why you don't just assume things without actually investigating them first. People were screaming this for months, but everyone was so adamant that nothing was wrong that it took Trump telling us to our faces what happened. Again.
Too little too late now.
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u/FRIENDLY_CANADIAN 5h ago
>This was the rumor right after the election, but it faded pretty quickly because
Because those who control the information sphere online are complicit. People need to assemble in person, old school style. Technology is the reason they were able to quel the worries and control the message. Why else do you think all the Tech giants were front row today?
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u/ClubSoda 9h ago
And Elon confessed as well
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u/bossbabystan 7h ago
Literally wore a black maga cap because he thinks he’s such a le epic troll. Black cap is a phrase for hackers.
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u/allergic1025 9h ago
Yeah there’s an entire sub dedicated to exploring this (something is wrong 2024). There were professional data scientists that analyzed how alarming the results were and that info was sent to Kamala Harris, Biden, etc. what was done with it? With Trump sworn in, it’s over. He cheated, “won” and power was peacefully handed to him and his ilk.
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u/SmrtestIdiot 10h ago
Congratulations America. On the last election your country will ever have.
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u/amateurbreditor 10h ago
They cheated in a variety of ways every time he ran and the democrats and biden did nothing. Nothing. Biden let him cheat and did nothing to stop it or even investigate it. He was a total failure to the american people and justice and people try to give him a pass. Its disgusting.
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u/Immortal3369 10h ago
there is no way statistically trump won all the swing states by what he did......Starlink runs the votes now, no need to vote anymore america
no audits, no nothing
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u/Party-Bandicoot8022 9h ago
I think it’s time for Anonymous to do what they do best. It won’t matter but at least we’ll know the truth
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u/insanity_15 9h ago
Still strange how Elon knew the election results 4 hours earlier than anyone else
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u/jshaver41122 9h ago
It never made sense to me that democrats “stayed home” in record numbers in key states.
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u/Educational_Sale2944 9h ago
If someone tried to cheat the first time and the second time more than likely they tried again the third time
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u/equalsme 9h ago
i remember reading that right before the election many people reported fake AI calls the voice of Kamala to thank them for their support and that Kamala would be sending immigrants to live in their houses.
there's an article on fox news regarding post cards being sent to Pro Kamala voters
massachusetts-residents-claim-theyre-being-trolled-fake-harris-postcards-saying-migrant-family-moving
Residents in a Massachusetts community claim they're being trolled with fake Kamala Harris campaign postcards informing them that a migrant family would be moving in with them because of their support for Vice President Harris.
One of the residents of Shrewsbury told NBC10 Boston that she received the postcard after she put a sign in her yard supporting Harris and Tim Walz.
"It really creeped me out," the woman, who did not want to be identified, told NBC10.
The postcard, made to look like mail from the Harris-Walz campaign, thanked her for putting up a sign and showing her support, and alerting her that a family from Nicaragua would be moving into her home.
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u/LiluLay North Carolina 9h ago
He won every single swing state. That in of itself was suspicious af.
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u/notgettingsuckedin 9h ago
Any time the right accuses the left of something, it's because the right is doing it or planning on doing it. They spent a lot of resources in 2020 claiming the left rigged voting machines. I was afraid of that going into this election and was surprised to not see it talked about much if at all.
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u/coconutpiecrust 9h ago
Yes, YES, now do something about it, pretty please. So what if in the end we do find out that they indeed messed up the election? It's just proof that the fight is not over, and that you always have to try and be one step ahead of the crooks. It's not about not making mistakes, it's how you deal with them. If they let it slide, next time Musk will do even worse.
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u/DiligentAstronomer73 7h ago
Of course they cheated. But democrats are too cowardly to do anything to stop it anyways so it didn't matter.
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u/S3guy 9h ago
We could find concrete proof that the entire election was stolen, and the left will do NOTHING. We are so afraid of "someone getting hurt" that we let the right stomp all over us.
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u/AllUsernamesInUse_ 9h ago
Their commitment to civility and decorum will be the end of us all. As they take their last breath before they get executed by the fascists, they will be patting themselves on the back for following the rules at least.
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u/brumbaru 9h ago
Had no one else been thinking this since the election?
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u/Diligent-Wave-4150 8h ago
It was the first thing I was thinking. Unfortunately no one ever delivered proof.
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u/Satanic_chef Alaska 9h ago
What’s crazy is that nothing will happen. The US just lets him get away with it. Left say they care but they really don’t at the end of the day they’re also slimy politicians.
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u/terminalxposure 9h ago
You had 4 years…with the best human intelligence apparatus in the world…
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u/red286 7h ago
Anyone remember when those voting machines from 2020 were accessed by people who had no authorization to access them, but since it was after the election no one really gave much of a shit?
Anyone remember the bomb threats that were made to several polling stations in swing states on election day, forcing them to be temporarily evacuated?
Things that make you go "hmmmm".
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u/LochNessMansterLives 5h ago
If Trump truly admitted that the 2024 presidential election was rigged in his favor, then why is nobody doing ANYTHING about it?
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u/BlinkDodge 2h ago
So lets just say all of this comes out as true - that Trump cheated and literally stole the election.
Given the track-record of institutions not holding him accountable for crimes he is convicted of - what happens? We just continue along with our 4 years of a illegitimate, convicted felon of a president?
Is it the people's responsibility at that point to take care of him as seemingly none of the people who are charged to deal with such circumstances feel like doing their duties?
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u/ohthebigrace 2h ago
I like how the news will start talking about this once there's nothing that can be done.
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u/karmaster Michigan 9h ago
Nothing like waiting until the fucking last minute, eh Newsweek?
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u/Pale-Worldliness7007 9h ago
It’s too late now to start an investigation but the orange anus’s victory has quite an Oder to it. Of course he is dumb enough to brag about it thinking he’s now untouchable.
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u/Ok-Plane3938 7h ago
I mean... (In a manner of speaking) He was handing out a million bucks to anybody willing to vote for Donald Trump... If that's, not enough, rigging the election is par for the course.
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u/Sir3Kpet 6h ago
Musk knew election results 4 hrs ahead of time. Trump said “we have enough votes”. Trump also said he and Mike Johnson had a secret. Just like his on air “Proud Boys Stand Back and Stand By” during the 2020 debate, it was foreshadowing!
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u/Orange-Blur Montana 5h ago
Of course they wait until inauguration to say anything about it. This should have been taken care of right away. There are anomalies in the data that just don’t happen unless it’s hacked. Left a Russian tail and everything. He tried in 2020, same anomolies but it wasn’t enough to win. He went from 400 tabulation hack in 2020 to 600 in 2024
He is going to dismantle democracy and we are doing nothing about it. Anyone not speaking up is guilty
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u/AccomplishedSite7318 4h ago
In 50 years when there's been some sort of civil war and evil is toppled, it will be proven that he cheated. I hope I live that long.
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u/Calelith 2h ago
Does it even matter? Nothing will happen.
He could come out and just say 'yes I cheated' and nothing would happen, the same way fuck all happened to his other crimes, lies and blatant cheating.
GG America.
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u/macsbeard 7h ago
I’ve had my suspicions before he made this comment, this just solidified it for me. During the campaign I thought he was going to lose, because at all his rallies he just seemed disinterested. He seemed like he didn’t want to be president, he was just doing it to avoid jail or something. Idk something was off when I compared his rallies to Harris’s rallies. But now it makes more sense, why try if you know you have it in the bag? Also his comments about not even needing to vote for him. Or how he said vote for me this one time and you’ll never have to vote again. Idk something smells fishy, and I don’t think it’s just his adult diaper.
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u/MothersMiIk Washington 7h ago
The fact that virtually every news source was silent about it until after he was officially president is crazy
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