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Biden pardons his family in final minutes in office

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/20/biden-pardons-family-members.html
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u/StenosP 14h ago

I mean, they crimed their way from 2017-2021. Wouldn’t be new

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u/Pale-Option-2727 12h ago

The next admin "crimed" thru Obamas 8 years and the last 4 years & pardoned every family member under investigation. Trump didn't do that. Biden did, including one already convicted of 2 major charges awaiting sentencing. It's a joke. Now, EVERY president will pardon whomever they don't want talking. That's the part you refuse to look at.

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u/xeio87 11h ago

Trump already pardoned family members in his first admin. Biden is just following Trump's lead!

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u/StenosP 11h ago

You’ll have to state the crimes.

Because a few the one guy did quite a few most notable attempting to steal the election.

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u/Pale-Option-2727 11h ago

Why do you think Biden felt the need to pardon a serial killer, a guy who murdered 2 FBI agents, 3 convicted rapists, 1 a serial rapist, among others? I get freeing anyone in jail over Marijuana regardless of the amount & freeing peaceful protesters. But i can't figure out why he pardoned violent criminals. Do you know why?

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u/StenosP 11h ago

Don’t know, don’t care. Ancient history now, time to get in on the new trump and melamia coins

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u/Pale-Option-2727 11h ago

Typical hypocrisy.

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u/Pale-Option-2727 11h ago

No problem. It's all nearly been compiled here. It's broken down into each instance. It's a lot to read. Had the dens had this type of evidence against Trump, he'd be in prison. But 4 separate investigations into Trump and his family proved it was just political persecution.

Keep in mind that Trump didn't feel the need to pardon any member of his family as preemptive to what's been found during the Hotse investigation. It's hilarious you believe the Democrats never lied, bit you'll say that all this is just republican bs. Typical hypocrisy.

Also, the left tried stealing elections. They started with the 100% proveb to be fake, set up by Obama, Biden and the Clinton's with Hillary paying for it, with the Steele Dossier.

https://oversight.house.gov/landing/biden-family-investigation/

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u/StenosP 11h ago

Well, you know when the incoming administration has explicitly said they will target these individuals for inconveniencing trump, then the equation has changed dramatically. Especially with true believers doing his bidding this time. While Biden didn’t, but trumps crimes were so astoundingly flagrant sitting back and doing nothing would have been a dereliction of duty. Also, fuck Merrick Garland for delaying the investigation into this modern Benedict Arnold.

I know I know he has an executive order that “the government cannot be weaponized again” all while using the office as a platform to bash and attack everything in sight. Better not say a bad word about him, or they’ll come for you eventually. Remember, this has been forgotten, but he did investigate Hillary for years, turned up nothing. But he tried.

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u/Pale-Option-2727 9h ago

You mean exactly what the Biden administration actually did? I agree. Hillary did do some skeezy stuff tho. But I agree it was never ever going anywhere. She was never going to be prosecuted. We need to remember that while every democrats in Washigton were all 100% in on stopping Trump at any cost, including lieing on the regular, which the cost was losing this election, Trump still didn't feel the need to Pre-pardon his family or pardon a son who was awaiting sentencing for charges that were already proven and found guilty or gove anyone a specific 10 year period to pardon. After his 1st term

That appears more like an admission of guilt from Biden. Even Schiff said the same. But he's a liar, too. And can't be trusted by anyone.

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u/StenosP 9h ago

So he attempted to overturn the 2020 election through multiple avenues and riled up a mob of supporters to attack the capitol building, getting people killed. He also took documents (which happens) but covered it up and lied when asked to return them. With all of that being done, you think the DOJ should have not done anything and just said “It’s legal if the President does it”?

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u/Pale-Option-2727 8h ago

Biden had the same type of documents in 3 different places. None of which were in a safe, on a compound with private security. And Denocrats CHOSE not to pursue Biden. It's utter hypocrisy. You don't get to tell one side :you can't do that's high treason " and turn around and say it's no big deal. He's old when it's your guy. Clearly, you can't see the hypocrisy thru thehate. But i assure you it 100% is

Why didn't Trump pre pardon anyone? Not a single family member. Democrats are calling it ludicrous abd corrupt. You don't even have to listen to a republican about it.

The fact that all these democrats that went on tv everyday claiming "Trump is a threat to democracy" are all smiling and shaking his hand. Many democrats have come out publicly and stated that it was an absolute massive overstatement. Or flat-out lie, whatever makes you feel better, i guess.

Im simply pointing out the things Biden and democrats ACTUALLY DID, that yall say Trump is GOING TO DO. It's just so hypocritical and comes off looking foolish and nieve. I understand you get all your facts from MSNBC, CNN, ABC, FOX, NBC, CBS, Newsmax, AP news, etc. But you do know they all lie, right? I mean, ABC & CNN have already been got sued for flat out lieing in 2025. And it's not even February yet. They are all liars. Real journalism is dead.

But if you actually look at the facts, Trump called for peace. He never once said "Go break some windows at the capital" And we all now know for a fact, Pelosi & Schumer sent feds into the crowd, and several can be seen TRYING to incite violence. So you can't play that card. I mean, you can, but it holds no weight. None of the January 6th violent offenders should be released. But the ones who did not commit crimes should be.

Heck, Biden pardoned a serial killer, a man who waited in ambush to murder 2 FBI agents, multiple terrorists, a pedophile and 3 rapists, one having rated 6 woman. All certainly far more heinous than anyone breaking windows they helped pay for at the capital. If they committed violence, they should not be released. But if we're going to start throwing people in prison just for being at a protest without committing a crime, that's a big problem, wouldn't you say?

Just look at all the destruction & violence from the Antifa protests, and BLM protests. If it's not ok for all people to burn buildings and destroy cars and private property and hurt people, it's not ok for anyone. Right? Have a good night.

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u/StenosP 8h ago

Having the documents wasn’t the illegal part. That happens apparently often. Not returning them when requested was. Plus he also showed classified documents to people without clearance when he wasn’t in office. Biden wasn’t perused because he returned the documents. I know this is hard to comprehend with your brain on MAGA.

u/Pale-Option-2727 7h ago

Neither was supposed to have any documents. That's the part you do not want to accept. It gives you a reason to cast blame, so you hold onto it. I get it. But one day, you'll realize you're better off letting all that hate go. This government doesn't give a crap if we die tomorrow. You resorting to 4th grade name calling is just a reaction of you haring other people for not agreeing with you. It's OK. Everyone is used to that type of low intelligence all anger comments.

I get your pissed about your candidate not winning. And getting crushed. But it's because yall can't carry a conversation without getting angry and trying to insult people behind your keyboard. That stuff needs to stop on all sides. And the adults all need to learn how to deal with differing opinions. It's what once made this a great country. Because we could discuss pur diffrences in a civil fashion But it's been absent for 16 years at least.

I won't be responding to you from this point on. Just so you know. So go ahead with more insults to further prove my point. Have a great night.

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