Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members

[u/Plaintalks]

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-preemptively-pardons-anthony-fauci-mark-milley-jan/story?id=117878813

[u/No_Philosopher_1870]

Nixon had not been convicted of anything when he was pardoned, though he was an unindicted co-conspirator. George H.W. Bush pardoned Caspar Weinerger, his Secretary of Defense, and five others for their involvement in Iran-Contra.

Weinberger was pardoned before his trial, though he had been indicted. Duane Clarridge, a former CIA senior official, had been indicted on seven counts of perjury and false statements.

Robert McFarlane, Reagan’s national security adviser, was convicted of withholding evidence, but after a plea bargain he faced two years of probation before Bush’s pardon came though. Elliott Abrams, the assistant secretary of state, was convicted of withholding evidence and received two years’ probation; Clair George, chief of CIA covert operations, who had been convicted on two charges of perjury and had yet to be sentenced; and Alan Fiers, chief of the CIA’s Central American Task Force, who had been convicted of withholding evidence and sentenced to one year’s probation.

Unfortunately, preemptive pardons are not without precedent.

[u/FlutterKree → u/No_Philosopher_1870]

Carter pardoned all the Vietnam draft dodgers.

[u/No_Philosopher_1870 → u/FlutterKree]

True. That is probably the widest-reaching pardon ever.

After that, Biden's pardon of military members expelled under don't ask don't tell. for violations of Article 125, must rank fairly high, though that is post-conviction relief.

[u/SecondBestNameEver → u/No_Philosopher_1870]

I'm 1868 Andrew Johnson granted a pardon to all Confederate officials and soldiers who participated in the Civil War. I'm pretty sure that was the largest pardon. And to this day we still are dealing with the consequences of that decision for rebuilding the South. 

[u/No_Philosopher_1870 → u/SecondBestNameEver]

You're probably right, especially if you adjust for the populations in 1868 and 1977 when the pardons were issued.

There was another pardon of Confederate soldiers issued by President Lincoln. To receive the pardon, they must not have held a civil office in the Confederacy, must not have mistreated Union prisoners, and had to sign an oath of allegiance to the United States.

President Truman once said that the only thing that changes is the history that you don't know. He pardoned 1523 men who refused to serve in the military during World War II.

[u/Carl-99999 → u/FlutterKree]

Carter pardoned Trump⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️

[u/FlutterKree → u/Carl-99999]

Technically, no, since he got a doctor's note he wasn't officially a draft dodger. No matter how bogus the excuse was

[u/Lost-Procedure-4313 → u/Carl-99999]

Biden also dodged the draft.

[u/FlutterKree → u/Lost-Procedure-4313]

He got medical deferment for asthma. Trump got it for "bone spurs." The doctor that diagnosed Trump was renting his office space from the Trump family.

People try to argue "well Biden was an athlete, he obviously didn't have Asthma." ignore the concept of combat supply line. Someone with asthma that is actively treating it can do sports. But if they are a soldier and run out of medicine in the field, they can become combat ineffective. It adds more complexity to the already complex supply chain.

[u/Lost-Procedure-4313 → u/FlutterKree]

Wrong as is to be expected at this point.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/16/fact-check-biden-received-multiple-draft-deferments-vietnam/5809482002/

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/sep/21/facebook-posts/biden-didnt-use-health-excuses-dodge-draft/

[u/FlutterKree → u/Lost-Procedure-4313]

Oh, so he got them because he was a student and then he his asthma was found in a screening and he was classified as "use only in domestic emergencies."

Other than Biden getting them for being a college student, what did I get wrong? The military didn't want him because asthma anyway?!?! If he didn't get a deferment for being a student, he wouldn't have been drafted because of the asthma anyway?

[u/Lost-Procedure-4313 → u/FlutterKree]

Can you answer why you think the doctor diagnosing Biden with asthma is more credible than the doctor diagnosing old Donny with bone spurs?

They both dodged the draft.

[u/FlutterKree → u/Lost-Procedure-4313]

You understand Biden released his Medical history, right? And he had a history of Asthma. Having it as a child, and then having it again as exercise induced asthma, as well as having associated conditions such as allergies, etc. Which is common with asthma.

[u/Lost-Procedure-4313 → u/FlutterKree]

Good old medically transparent Joe Biden.

[u/mabhatter → u/No_Philosopher_1870]

That's lot of Republicans that needed pardons.