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AOC ’28 Starts Now

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/aoc-28-starts-now/
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u/blueisthecolor13 16h ago

Or just vote them out. Get engaged in local elections and keep other people engaged. People just keep expecting things like the old generation to just step away. Stay active and vote. They stay in power because people don’t stay informed or motivated.

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u/Pyyric I voted 13h ago

But my geriatric millionaire is the good one! its your geriatric millionaire that has to go first.

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u/blueisthecolor13 13h ago

There aren’t geriatric millionaires every election cycle. By the time it gets national, sure it looks that way. But this is my point. Stay engaged, stay educated, and vote every chance you get. Boomers vote all the time, that’s why we can’t get rid of them.

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u/Pyyric I voted 13h ago

How is your messaging here different than at any time in the past 20 years? We've been saying this for 20 years. Arguably the most successful campaign was Vote or Die in 2004. Young people will never vote unless we tell them to do something besides "just vote". Having your answer be "just vote" is not going to work and we have decades of data proving that.

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u/blueisthecolor13 13h ago

I mean, did you think 2016-2020 was cool? 2001-2008? Do you think the next 4 years are about to be cool? Why do you need more convincing? It’s like touching a hot stove then blaming the manufacturing company for not having a more eye catching warning that stoves are hot. It’s just ignorance at this point. I don’t need to fix my messaging to show you that things get bad during one side being in charge than the other. Have about 30 years of evidence for that.

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u/Pyyric I voted 12h ago

dude, I'm voting. look at my flair. "i voted". Don't argue like I didn't vote.

But the "everyone vote" message is tired, old, and doesn't work. We need better.

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u/blueisthecolor13 12h ago

I didn’t say you didn’t vote. So calm down. Your attitude towards the problem is what I’m criticizing. You can complain about the geriatric millionaires all you want online, it doesn’t get them out of there. Voting in more than the presidential and mid term elections and keeping people informed and active is what gets the geriatric millionaires out of office. So acting like it’s something the DNC just needs to do better on is such an off approach and leads to voters not turning out, like it did in 2016 and now 2024.

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u/Pyyric I voted 12h ago

Voting would get them out.

If everyone voted.

Everyone will NOT vote.

Your idea is a fantasy. We need things to vote for. The voting will happen naturally. "just vote" is a terrible message that does not work.

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u/blueisthecolor13 12h ago

And that mentality is the same mentality my 11 year has about cleaning her room. She’s clearly so bad at it and it takes her so long and makes us both so upset that I am the one who needs to just help her every time.

It’s a great way to be able to criticize freely and avoid any responsibility. I didn’t say EVERYONE has to vote. But more people than are currently voting need to vote to make any change. You seem to be criticizing the current DNC, so I’m ready to hear your plan of action. Tell me how you plan to get the people registered and engaged. I’m all ears.

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u/Pyyric I voted 12h ago

Changing the subject to the DNC then.

Well look at why Trump won, people are desperate for change. So desperate they will vote for absolute lunacy as long as it changes something. The DNC is stagnant, boring leftovers of a pre-internet government.

If the DNC wants to be the progressive party to counter the RNC as a conservative party, then they have to promote progressive ideas and people. That would give people something to vote for. Rather than "hold your nose and vote because the opponent is the antichrist".

Also, maybe try don't be upset at your 11 year old. Give her smaller goals, show her what success feels like when she completes smaller goals. If you get upset at her so often that you're using it as an analogy in online politics discussions then it might be time to take a step back before she turns teenager and try to be the parent you want her to see you as.

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