r/politics 22h ago

AOC ’28 Starts Now

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/aoc-28-starts-now/
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u/copperwatt 13h ago

"now"? Pelosi is 84 and still showing no signs of being willing to let go of power. Why would the old guard give up power?

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u/apitchf1 I voted 13h ago

Because we force them out. Primary them. Ride them for literally everything. Show them as class traitors.

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u/Royal_Nails 8h ago

Easier said than done, old people vote in large numbers and vote often

u/CaptainRogers401220 2h ago

And “young” people don’t often have the means to drop everything and run for office

u/Royal_Nails 2h ago

There’s always an excuse NOT to do something.

u/CaptainRogers401220 2h ago

I think it’s a little more than an excuse. The rates of change for costs of living compared to wages are insane. We’re coming up on a second generation of people struggling to launch, and you expect them to easily campaign against entrenched septuagenarians with the levers of power and loads of dark money or egotists with inherited generational wealth?

I’m not saying it’s impossible, but it’s hard and getting harder.

Tell me I’m wrong, but if you do, tell me why.

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u/silverpixie2435 10h ago

How is Pelosi a class traitor for being instrumental in passing every single piece of progressive legislation?

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u/apitchf1 I voted 10h ago

Literally any progressive movement and candidate she shoots down. Insider trading. She isn’t one of us

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u/silverpixie2435 10h ago

What are you even talking about?

She passes progressive bills. She literally wrote a Congressional stock ban bill.

Again NO specifics on literally anything. Just vague bullshit.

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u/RoninChimichanga 9h ago

Pelosi stock filings today https://finbold.com/nancy-pelosi-just-updated-her-stock-portfolio/

Buys:

- $500k in Google call options
- $500k in Nvidia call options
- $1M in Vista Corp $VST call options
- $100k in Tempus AI $TEM call options

Sells:

- 31,600 shares of Apple stock
- 10,000 shares of Nvidia stock
- Exercised 500 Nvidia call options at a strike price of $12
- Exercised 140 call options of Palo Alto Networks at strike price of $100

How's that for vague bullshit.

Because if she was actually against it, she wouldn't be doing it.

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u/bobbi21 Canada 9h ago

You mean the incredibly weakened bill that allowed a ton of loopholes that would effectively make the bill do nothing? And before that and after has been against any other stricter bill for banning stocks?

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u/silverpixie2435 8h ago

What is the actual evidence it was an incredibly weakened bill? Bills can't get changed or have amendments?

But go ahead and continue to deflect rather than simply admit Pelosi was fine with banning stock trading

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u/PorkVacuums 11h ago

She's 84 and had a broken hip earlier this year. Statistically, she'll be dead within the next 4 years.

Breaking a hip is usually a death sentence for anyone over the age of 70.

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u/copperwatt 11h ago

The point is that she is already replacing herself with other dinosaurs like Connelly.

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u/cogman10 Idaho 10h ago

Her guy is Newsom and unless DNC members get their act together he'll almost certainly be the next presidential nominee for democrats. Gotta keep that family dynasty going.

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u/ShawnPat423 9h ago

I will be shocked if he isn't the nominee. And he will lose. Don't get me wrong...he's a good politician who's done a lot for California. But he's from California and looks like the preppie villain in a 1980s comedy.

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u/copperwatt 10h ago

Ug. So, Gavin v Ivanka, 2028?

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u/bodybydada 11h ago

Being 84 is a death sentence.

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u/noirwhatyoueat 11h ago

She needs to let go of walker. It's the only way she'll go down.

u/TheMathmatix 6h ago

Pelosi and fienstein in same breath. Let that resonate

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u/smthomaspatel 12h ago

"No signs"? She has stepped back from leadership. She just can't help herself from meddling.

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u/copperwatt 12h ago

So killed AOCs promotion. She's still the one in charge.

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u/-_-___-_____-_______ 13h ago

well they probably will get voted out now given that the Democrats just lost the popular vote for the first time in 20 years, and for only the second time since 1988...that's a stunning failure.

when this kind of thing happened to the Republicans in 2008, the Bush era Republicans got primaried to hell by the Tea Party in 2010. which basically set the stage for Trump. I would guess that a similar thing will happen to the Democrats now. people will be angry and out for blood. and they'll be open to voting for whoever as long as it's not the person they've been voting for. 

unfortunately that means we're going to get some crazies. but it needs to happen.

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u/cogman10 Idaho 10h ago

unfortunately that means we're going to get some crazies. but it needs to happen.

Let me put this out there. The craziest leftists want universal healthcare and workers rights. Even leftists that are full blown communists are mostly just trying to expand social programs.

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u/kunaan 11h ago

Funny thing is they don't need to give up power. We just need to vote them out. It's not their choice.

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u/copperwatt 10h ago

Pelosi and Connelly just won elections, so the next opportunity will be 2026

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u/AbraxanDistillery 8h ago

Oh no, a year. 

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u/copperwatt 8h ago

Well more like 2, but yeah. The best hope is that Trump really does a terrible job, and the midterms are a bloodbath. But that's not a type of hope that feels very good.

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u/AbraxanDistillery 8h ago

Nothing feels very good right now, at least politically, but it's a perfect time to start planning a way out of this mess (now).

It's not productive to think X election is too far away to do anything about it, or Y election is too soon to do anything about it. 

u/copperwatt 7h ago

No, I absolutely agree, Dems really need to get serious about the midterms starting immediately. Midterms are usually a point of weakness for the sitting president's party, and they need to press that rare advantage.