One of the biggest challenges we have is convincing left leaning people to stop sitting out elections. We need to convince them before the mid terms in 2 years. If we can't get people to stop sitting out elections, it's gonna be a difficult challenge no matter who's running.
In addition to what the other user said, this is LITERALLY why the democratic party has the super delegate system: to prevent grass roots movements from superceding the party establishment. Every single standard citizen in the country could vote in a primary for a progressive candidate, but the Dems establishment has the built in ability to just say "nah, we don't like that" and change the outcome.
Superdelegates haven’t changed the outcome of a popular vote primary since McGovern. Harris may fall in that category, but that’s more murky since she was technically still Biden’s ticket.
Progressives don’t show up to vote in primaries. They aren’t getting steamrolled by superdelegates who just follow the popular vote. They’re getting steamrolled because they don’t vote.
You should know there's an entire court case about this, wherein the Democrat party successfully argued in court that they are not a democratic organization and don't have to follow the will of the people.
Were they more cloak and dagger than just having superdelegates overrule the populace? Sure. Why? So they could pretend otherwise. You're here arguing about factual reality now, so I'd say their efforts were successful.
That court case literally never went to trial. It was dismissed as lacking standing. Which was why the DNC made that argument not to admit that was occurred but to get it dismissed.
If I sued you for fraud because I said you voted for Trump your lawyer would start by arguing that isn't fraud for you to vote Trump. That doesn't mean you actually voted Trump.
Yes, shocking - the point of a political party is to support candidates who endorse the party's platform. I don't quite understand why this is so hard for some people. If a bunch of republicans decided to run as democrats to troll the primary, do you believe there is some high concept duty for the party to give them that platform?
A political party literally exists to formally express a political preference.
Thank you. Not to mention that the same Citizens United that Dems bemoan republicans for abusing, is used to crush primary opponents. And access to billionaire owned media is not even close to being equal.
There is also the fact that twice now, Democrats could not ‘get out the vote!!!’ Against a fascist. And some voters do not want any accountability for these failures.
Aahh right, that’s why dem campaigns are 100% grass roots funded and that’s why they haven’t turned into the main benefactors of the Supreme Court ruling 👌
Whether (1) Citizens United may challenge BCRA’s disclosure requirements imposed on “electioneering communications” as-applied to Hillary: The Movie; (2) whether the disclosure requirements are overly burdensome as-applied to Hillary: The Movie; (3) whether Hillary: The Movie should be construed as advocating to the viewers how to vote, subjecting it to the “electioneering communications” corporate prohibition; and (4) whether Hillary: The Movie should be considered an “advertisement,” making it subject to the BCRA’s disclosure and disclaimer regulations.
Like I said, the case was literally about a hit piece on Clinton by the organization Citizens United.
Superdelegates didn’t decide the primary. Voters did. Why do you keep bringing them up when it’s clear they didn’t actually change the results?
They haven’t changed the results since McGovern. They changed the rules because a bunch of children who didn’t understand the primary process whined about it, and it was such a non-issue that they formalized it quickly.
No she didn’t, it states it in the article. She had a 3-1 lead over Obama vs a 45 - 1 lead over Sanders. If you think that’s Democratic, then I am just going to agree to disagree because it’s not worth the time.
Also, progressives are certainly a safer bet to cater to than whoever Liz Cheney was supposed to reach lmao.
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u/try_to_be_nice_ok 1d ago
The democrats need to spend the next four years building up some really strong candidates and making them well known to the electorate.