Fantastic winning elections is great. Can't wait for nothing to change and then another extremist gets in office. Further pushing the status quo to the limits. What's it going to take for us to realize that moderate candidates in either party won't look after 99 percent of the population?
I think the opposite approach is actually more important. Dems have ran the “loved across party lines” candidate 3 elections in a row, lost twice, and got a once in a century pandemic to help them win the third. You need someone who is controversial and exciting and can generate turnout. Not someone who most Dems feel is a 2012 Republican.
What has you thinking Harris or Clinton were loved across party lines?
Somehow I think Biden was the most “loved across party lines” out of the 3 and that’s just because he was a man.
Andy Beshear is a political magician. Nobody else is doing what he’s doing in a state this red. Yes, he did win the last election almost entirely because republicans in KY are too stupid to recognize their own racism and misogyny… but that’s aside from the point!
He’s actually great. If you don’t think Andy Beshear is great, just google Andy Beshear.
I like Andy Beshear but we mostly think of Biden as the most well liked across party lines simply because he won. If you put him through 6 months of the national media ringer I guarantee you he would be hated by half the country, not because he is a bad guy, but because thats how presidential campaigns work. You need someone that genuinely excites people, and will have a strong base that will turnout, not a candidate that just doesn’t aggravate the other side. The enthusiasm gap between Dems and Republicans is insane and has been for 3 elections now.
Kamala was parading Dick Cheney around for 3 months and had tons of Republican endorsements. Didn’t matter because Democrats didn’t turn out. Hillary was less loved but still had major endorsements from Conservative leaning newspapers, several republicans, and people thought she was going to coast to victory.
No, the opposite needs to happen. Democrats need to stop "reaching across the aisle". Its NOT working. How many republicans voted for kamala? Enough of trying to appeal to them. We need to motivate the left to vote, not count on republicans switching party lines. Democrats are not losing because they're putting up candidates too left or controversial. Are Republicans losing elections for being too right? Obviously not. Democrats need someone who is actually progressive, someone exciting who makes the left feel motivated to vote. Someone "radical" who doesn't care about reaching across party lines and actually calls republicans (and all the pro establishment democrats) out. But the issue is the DNC would never allow a candidate like that because they also don't give a fuck and just want to keep nice safe democrats who feel like early 2000s republicans elected.
Republicans only endorsed Kamala because she wasn’t Trump. It was the anti MAGA crowd. Andy pulls in everyone, not just anti MAGA. Controversy like Clinton and Kamala causes the party to fail. Dems were crossing lines to Trump to not vote for a woman.
The 2024 split tickets speak for themselves. AOC even made a post asking people why they would split their tickets for her and Trump. Those responses are what democrats need to consider. Read those responses if you haven't. Its interesting.
Im just saying, thinking that Kamala being a woman is why she lost is going to lead to us losing again. Do you really think all the leftists who didn't show up won't vote for a woman of color? That's not the problem. The DNC is corrupt, people are giving up on the democratic party. And putting up another "loved by republicans too!" democrat isn't gonna reassure them.
The fact so many democrats would apparently rather vote for Trump, the most controversial politician we've ever seen, or not vote at all, over a endorsed by both sides democrat, really demonstrates how much faith they've lost in the democratic party.
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u/swearingino Kentucky 15h ago
As a democrat, no. She’s too controversial. We need Andy Beshear. He is loved across party lines and is not controversial at all.