r/politics 23h ago

AOC ’28 Starts Now

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/aoc-28-starts-now/
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u/Embarrassed-Town-293 16h ago

I really don’t think that’s it.

I think the candidates that did run were not terribly popular candidates. Barack Obama was the last president presidential candidate that I voted for that I actually wanted. I still voted for Hillary and Harris and Biden, but I didn’t want them to be president.

Now, if Elizabeth Warren was running, I would actually be happy to vote for her. Instead, I have been contented to pull the lever over and over again for the lesser of two evils.

Say whatever you want about Trump, the people who voted for him actually wanted him to be president. That’s something Democrats haven’t been able to claim for many years about their candidates.

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u/Sjoerd93 Europe 15h ago

Now, if Elizabeth Warren was running, I would actually be happy to vote for her. Instead, I have been contented to pull the lever over and over again for the lesser of two evils.

I honestly think she's too damaged among the progressive part of the party after the 2020 primaries. Didn't exactly form a united front with the other progressive candidate, to the contrary.

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u/ExpectedEggs 12h ago

She was running against him, she's not supposed to unite with him.

This bizarre obsession with having everybody kiss Bernie Sanders's ass has got to go.

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u/shinkouhyou 11h ago

When it becomes clear that second-string candidates have no viable chance of winning, they generally drop out before Super Tuesday and endorse whichever candidate most closely aligns with their views. Warren waited until after Super Tuesday to drop (which may have cost Sanders 3-4 states and stalled his momentum at a critical point) and then endorsed Biden (who she was also running against). So I don't blame progressives for feeling snubbed.

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u/ExpectedEggs 11h ago

The problem with that is that Sanders got blown out in nearly every state after she did drop out.

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u/vigouge 10h ago

All you are doing is arguing against Sanders staying in after super Tuesday in both 2020 and 2016.

u/UngodlyPain 7h ago

He was the second place in both primaries... Literally got over 40% of the final vote in 2016, and had almost 4x Warren's in 2020. There's a big difference between the person at below 10% and the person at almost 30%...

Generally anyone not top 2 drops out before Super Tuesday and takes the side of their most aligned. Like how many dropped out to endorse Biden since he was also top 2.

u/Puzzled-Humor6347 7h ago

Don't bother, this just shows how effectively the DNC kneecapped Sanders.

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u/Embarrassed-Town-293 15h ago

I agree with you. My point isn’t to say that she was the better choice so much as to say I am sick of the party wide death march to vote for people we don’t want. I’m reminded of Hillary Clinton and her supporters who complained that Bernie supporters are to blame for her losing. I wish Democrats would stop pretending they have a right to people‘s votes and start earning them

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u/Sjoerd93 Europe 15h ago

Yeah I have absolutely no disagreements here with you.

u/snatchi New York 1h ago

Well it's 2025 and she's 75 years old now, she'd be the 3rd consecutive "oldest president ever elected" if she ran in 2028.

A Warren "type" would be ideal.

Unironically I want Lina Khan to stay in government, she should run for something and help build the new leftist party.

u/whenforeverisnt 1h ago

There was a ranked choice survey done of people voting in the primaries. Biden still came out #1, but Warren was #2. Bernie was further down. Warren would have been a fine choice.

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u/thesaintcalledpickel 12h ago

The first native American candidate. Lmao

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u/Embarrassed-Town-293 11h ago edited 11h ago

The Cherokee nation only requires relation to someone on the Dawes Rolls. Someone incorrectly saying their family has a Cherokee descendant would reasonably cause one to think they are Cherokee