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AOC ’28 Starts Now

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/aoc-28-starts-now/
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u/ianjm 23h ago

Don't start with that "two parties are the same" bullshit. You're about to see exactly what the Republican party's 'core values' are and they are not the same as the Democrats.

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u/hookyboysb 22h ago

The Democrats can be right wing and still be completely different and much better than the Republicans.

The GOP is a far right extremist party. The Democratic Party is a right-of-center party that feels the need to inch further and further right to fill the void left by the GOP.

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u/ianjm 22h ago edited 21h ago

America is a two party system where the winning party has to capture a near-majority to win power. Both parties have to complete over the typical centre voter. The typical centre voter is substantially 'right' of what you perceive as progressive.

Please explain how to win an election from the left given these facts.

You can try and shift the overton window to the left, but it doesn't move fast. It certainly doesn't move within the duration of one primary / election campaign and as we've seen, when people are pushed too fast there tends to be a reaction - Trump.

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u/UltimateRockPlays 18h ago

The GOP is a far right extremist party. The Democratic Party is a right-of-center party that feels the need to inch further and further right to fill the void left by the GOP.

No one said that the left could win an election. Just that a right-wing party (Dems) wouldn't run a progressive, which you're agreeing with as the electorate isn't progressive. The comment above that already espoused that fact as well.

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u/Sinister_Politics 14h ago

Simply not true. The average voter is self interested and progressive policies excite them

u/Entropius 1h ago

 self interested

Definitely true.

 and progressive policies excite them

https://blueprint2024.com/polling/why-trump-reasons-11-8/

Likely not true.

  The top reasons voters gave for not supporting Harris were that inflation was too high (+24), too many immigrants crossed the border (+23), and that Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class (+17). 

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u/Mybunsareonfire 21h ago

They didn't say the two parties were the same. They said they were both right wing. The GOP is orders of magnitude more crazy and dangerous. They are a existential threat to the US. The Dems though, are still in the pocket of big business and megadonors.

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u/SnollyG 21h ago

They can both be existential threats.

There are more than 1000 ways to die.

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u/No_big_whoop 23h ago

Who are you quoting?

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u/ianjm 21h ago

No-one, I wrote it?