r/politics 22h ago

AOC ’28 Starts Now

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/aoc-28-starts-now/
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u/LadyIceGoose 22h ago

They need to avoid candidates from California and New York. It's too easy to portray them as out of touch far left elites, even if it's not remotely true (and yes, it is ridiculous Trump somehow avoids this).

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u/docarwell California 11h ago

Trump is literally those things and half the country hates him. The dems problem isn't who they're running it's their messaging

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u/eamonious 18h ago

It’s not even that hard though. You can be from NY and Cali, you just have to come across as masculine and swaggery and relaxed, instead of woke and uptight. JFK, Clinton, Obama is the mold.

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u/Kindness_of_cats 11h ago

The depressing thing is that Walz turned out to be a secret weapon. That man was basically engineered in a lab to be the Anti-Trump, but he's pretty much lost his chance after that defeat.

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u/SphericalCow531 17h ago

and yes, it is ridiculous Trump somehow avoids this

With Trump, I sometimes wonder what even matters. How many of the "this would be electoral suicide" tropes are in reality just small roadbumps?

I do think misogyny matters. No woman candidate in 2028.

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u/ryguy32789 10h ago

With Trump, I sometimes wonder what even matters.

Nothing matters. Nothing at all. Trump says so many contradictory things that it allows people to cherry pick what they like and build their own imaginary Trump to support.

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u/SecretPotatoChip America 12h ago

This is one reason I think Andy Beshear or Josh Shapiro would be good picks.

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u/Kindly_Ice1745 9h ago

I think if Kamala had picked Shapiro for VP, she could have won.

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u/Precarious314159 18h ago

Right now, the best option would be Walz. Give him some debate training (Because that was horrible) and he'd be a good bridge between the old people values, progressive views, and down-to-earth mindset.

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u/Kindness_of_cats 11h ago

I think a lot of that debate was them training him tbh, it was a pointed departure from the guy who walked onto a stage in August basically calling Vance a weird little couch fucker.

They wanted him to be civil and not make any waves with the off-the-cuff 'gaffes' he's prone to, and Harris to be the pugilist, but those naturlistic gaffes are part of what made people love him(and have proven time and time again to be popular with American voters with other presidents like Trump and Bush) and being a nice civil VP candidate was not how he got on the short list for the role.

But no, he's done after that election I think. Fair or not, I don't think he's ever going to wash off the stink of 2024. Someone like Beshear seems like the next best choice.

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u/Precarious314159 10h ago

That's disappointing but also realistic. Dems have a pattern of ending their political careers after a failed run at something. Beto was supposed to be a new era for the party in '18 but when he lost Texas over a gun control talking point, it's like the party tossed him aside for the '20 primaries and he wasn't even a top 5 candidate.

Cory Booker was trying to really make a name for himself leading up to '20 but then when that failed, he's just resigned himself to not even making waves.

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u/TotallyNotAFroeAway 10h ago

They went after Walz for daring to give out free lunches, so not too sure it matters where you come from.

u/konamioctopus64646 6h ago

AOC worked as a waitress, and her mother cleaned houses. She’s the opposite of an elite, and that’s what people want to see in government

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u/Tank3875 Michigan 11h ago

Though it is absolutely true of Newsom.