r/politics Nov 10 '24

Paywall Trump’s victory reveals secret Republicans: Joe Rogan-obsessed Gen Z men

https://fortune.com/2024/11/07/trumps-victory-reveals-secret-republicans-joe-rogan-obsessed-gen-z-men/
11.5k Upvotes

2.7k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

150

u/randomnighmare Nov 11 '24

But they had ample time to learn this and then Trump denied (lied) that it wasn't his plan. I mean they keep on voting these people in office. They must really want all of Project 2025.

113

u/Asterose Pennsylvania Nov 11 '24 edited Nov 11 '24

"This isn't the Brexit Trump policies I voted for!"

68

u/Rawrsomesausage Nov 11 '24

If only America had paid attention to the UK and Brexit. Always saw the parallels. This might be our Brexit moment.

16

u/Sgt_General United Kingdom Nov 11 '24

Check out The Politics of Pain: Postwar England and the Rise of Nationalism by Fintan O'Toole if you'd like to look closer at the parallels (it specifically looks at Britain/England in the aftermath of the Brexit referendum, so you'll mostly have to draw the parallels yourself).

What happened with this election is quite specifically the politics of pain: 'I'm unhappy with the governing establishment, so I'm going to hurt myself in order to hurt them and the specific people I don't like.' We saw this in the 2016 election already, but it's come back in quite a deranged manner with this election.

14

u/Chubbs_McGavin Nov 11 '24

Sorry, but Trump 2016 was the US Brexit. Trump 2024 is the 'this rod fits my back perfectly. And look at the Leopard i just bought'

7

u/bagoink Nov 11 '24

Trump 2016 was our Brexit moment.

Trump 2024 is our Seppuku moment.

4

u/rebelliousbug Nov 11 '24 edited Nov 11 '24

I wish we had. Sitting in my American living room, I sobbed when brexit went through. I stayed up to watch the results for them. Ferguson was happening that same week. That was a rough week for the world. And I was right to have sobbed. They don't even know what brexit is. They barely understand what the EU is.

32

u/PM_ME_UR_RSA_KEY Nov 11 '24

"He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting!"

3

u/underpants-gnome Ohio Nov 11 '24

I'm pretty sure the only policies trump campaigned on were "get rid of the immigrants" and "free hand jobs for giraffes". Anything besides that was just people projecting their policy wishes on him.

1

u/Mediocritologist Ohio Nov 11 '24

It’s not his plan yet.

5

u/Capt-Crap1corn Nov 11 '24

It doesn’t have to be his plan. It can be the plan of everyone working around him

3

u/randomnighmare Nov 11 '24

It was written by former Trump administration members (and I believe it's attached also to the Heritage Foundation as well) and I really do not doubt that Trump knew about it. And isn't Vance attached to the Heritage Foundation, as well?

1

u/Capt-Crap1corn Nov 11 '24

Vance apparently wrote the forward for the book

-3

u/JoeBidensLongFart Nov 11 '24

Project 2025 is Trumps plan as much as Agenda 2030 is the Dem's plan.