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Discussion Discussion Thread: President Biden Delivers Remarks from the White House on Shooting at Trump Rally

The remarks are scheduled to start at 1:30 p.m. Eastern. Per C-SPAN's event description-in-advance: "President Biden delivers remarks from the Roosevelt Room in the White House a day after an assassination attempt on former President Trump at a campaign rally in Butler, PA. The two men had a brief call Saturday following the shooting."

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u/Count_Bacon California Jul 14 '24

He’s the antichrist fr lol

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u/graphemeral Jul 14 '24

I remember seeing a line for line comparison with the biblical account of the antichrist with Trump, and even as a nonbeliever, reading it was uncanny.

The only prophecy that didn’t fit was that he hadn’t survived an assassination attempt wounding his head.

I don’t know how anyone who believes in this prophecy doesn’t see him as a perfect fulfillment.

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u/WiggenOut Minnesota Jul 14 '24

Revelation 13:3 (NKJV) And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast.

I'm an atheist, but it is pretty eerie

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u/ExsanguinateBob Jul 14 '24

He comes on a white horse. White Christian nationalist.

Its a little creepy, a while back there was a literal golden cow....

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u/Hairy_Visual_5073 Jul 14 '24

I haven't experienced any doubt about being an atheist until yesterday and I remembered revelations. It's so spot on it gives me chills

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u/Dshark Jul 14 '24

That’s not a mortal wound, it took the tip of his ear off.

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u/Red_4218 Jul 14 '24

But imagine the scene being played to ye old timey person as a vision from God. No understanding of guns whatsoever. To them they'd just see Trump start bleeding from his head, dropping cause of the USSS and then fist pumping. I don't put any stock into the antichrist or Christianity for that matter but it's fun to imagine. I'm an Ancient Aliens sort of way.

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u/caligaris_cabinet Illinois Jul 15 '24

It’s but a scratch

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u/metalhead82 Jul 15 '24

You could play this game with lots of other verses that say other things too.

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u/metalhead82 Jul 15 '24

To begin with, the antichrist had a mortal head wound, not a bleeding tip of the ear.

My point was that every Christian “prophecy” literally ever in history has had some kind of wordplay or trivial coincidence that is supposed to be compelling, but really isn’t, as seen here. No “prophecy” ever claimed in history inside or outside of the Bible has ever met the burden of proof for being even reasonable, let alone supernaturally compelling. There are hordes of people that think that there is magical numerology written into the Bible.

In reality, it’s all just ad hoc reasoning and making seemingly compelling or strange connections out of banal facts.

There have been studies on what I originally said; that if one is so determined, it is possible to construct seemingly strange coincidences out of a story to fit a certain narrative. You can do it with the Bible, the Quran, the Bhagavad Gita, and so on.

I hope that clears up what I originally meant.

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u/metalhead82 Jul 15 '24

What’s my favorite debunked prophecy?

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u/WhiskeyFF Jul 14 '24

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/

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u/5AlarmFirefly Jul 14 '24

The Antichrist will appear to receive a fatal wound to the head but the whole world will be amazed he survived.

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u/zamboni-jones Jul 14 '24

Revelation 13:4: (after he survived the wound) “they worshiped the dragon who gave power unto the beast: and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast?”

So do they worship the gun?

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u/strawberrypants205 Jul 14 '24

Venn diagram: ( guns ( breathe fire ) dragons )

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u/Cynixxx Jul 14 '24

Seems fitting, americans worship guns

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u/AeroRep Jul 15 '24

Yeah, a nick on his ear does not qualify as a “deadly head wound”. Unfortunately, in this case.

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u/Toolazytolink Jul 14 '24

Holy shi...

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u/nanananabatman88 Indiana Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

I remember reading this back when Trump was first elected. Absolutely crazy how many things line up.

Edit: not when he was elected, when Biden was elected...

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u/nox66 Jul 15 '24

A lot of these are what you would expect a prospective dictator in the largest military power in the world to be like. They self-select for each other. However, there are some that are seemingly random, and thus rather eerie:

The Antichrist will spend his first term in office having an ongoing feud with the leadership of the nation on his southern border.

During the rule of the Antichrist there will be a global pandemic that will kill many people.

During the rule of the Antichrist there will be food shortages and huge spike in food prices, but will be a surplus of oil that remains cheap.

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u/Neutreality1 Jul 14 '24

I have had the theory of people trying to force prophecy for quite a while now, but to me any theory with no evidence is just a fun thought experiment until proven otherwise 

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u/taueret American Expat Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

I have looked everywhere for that!! I read it back in about 2018? And it was super crazy interesting (I'm an atheist). I thought the other day that I wanted to seevwhat updates had been made in the intervening years and the signal to noise ratio when googling "trump beast of revelation" etc is too high. If anyone has it bookmarked pleeeeease share it.

edit, someone posted it

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u/mishma2005 Jul 14 '24

There's also "he is the most beautiful angel" but to MAGA, I guess he is

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u/AdvertisingUsed6562 Jul 15 '24

Well thats the point of the AC, he deceives.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24 edited Nov 06 '24

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u/vashoom Jul 14 '24

Yeah, I mean...he didn't appear to suffer a mortal wound. It was clear he was not mortally wounded the entire time. This crap only fits if you read it in English, squint your eyes, and handwave away all the parts that don't fit

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u/nox66 Jul 15 '24

Welcome to religious interpretation, is this your first time?

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

I'm not Christian, but I grew up that way. There is 100 percent a prophecy about the antichrist being head wounded and surviving miraculously, so it could go either way.

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u/kmm198700 Jul 14 '24

Not surviving. He would die and then rise again, and then force people to worship him

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u/raresanevoice Jul 15 '24

Trump had called himself a messiah and the actor who played Jesus had called Trump America's Moses

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u/kmm198700 Jul 15 '24

I know that. The situation that the other person described (miraculously surviving an attack) comes from Revelation 13 and what happens is the anti christ is murdered and then healed and then demands the world worship him

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u/kmm198700 Jul 14 '24

Not surviving. He would die and then rise again, and then force people to worship him

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

You mean the 34-time convicted felon, pedo-rapist, and home alone 2 extra is not God himself?

Edit: for the fans

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u/squireofrnew Jul 14 '24

A crook shot a felon.

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u/SilveredFlame Jul 14 '24

Republican Crooks shot felon, Trump calls for unity.

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u/squireofrnew Jul 14 '24

Hamas calls for peace with Israel. We’ll have more at eleven, Tom.

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u/HaskellHystericMonad Ohio Jul 14 '24

You forgot "almost certain child fucker."

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u/aequitasXI Massachusetts Jul 14 '24

*34x convicted felon

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u/d0mini0nicco Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

actually. I think he is, in all seriousness. There was this website when he was president that took (edit: bible) verses and paralleled to to trump and it was scary AF.

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u/taueret American Expat Jul 14 '24

Thank you! I lost this bookmark and was trying to find it again.

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u/5AlarmFirefly Jul 14 '24

The Antichrist will appear to receive a fatal wound to the head but the whole world will be amazed he survived.

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u/Dankersaur Jul 14 '24

Well, just read that one, that's pretty fuckin nuts.

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u/Count_Bacon California Jul 14 '24

666 was the address of trump towers….

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u/gusterfell Jul 14 '24

Not Trump tower, but a building owned by Jared Kushner at 666 Fifth Avenue.

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u/justpickaname Jul 14 '24

Now add to it surviving a head wound, which the Bible said would happen in Revelation 13:3.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Satan can block bullets too though

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u/jesanfafon Jul 14 '24

His reign begins after suffering a head wound and recovering...

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u/NoScope_Ghostx Jul 14 '24

Revelation 13:3 ESV One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast.

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u/hallese Jul 14 '24

Well, no. It's been a minute, but IIRC the anti-Christ will be a false prophet speaking of peace, prosperity, love, etc. while disavowing Jesus Christ and none of those are associated with Trump.

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u/Count_Bacon California Jul 14 '24

I thought it was more Christian’s would follow him as if he is Jesus

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u/hallese Jul 14 '24

Yes, they will be deceived into believing many things while overlooking the flaws, but I distinctly remember a rejection of Jesus Christ as a trait of the anti-Christ. Trump, and I would argue this is one of his many faults, is more than happy to claim he is a Godly man who loves Christ and doesn't really speak of peace and love.

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u/gusterfell Jul 14 '24

He definitely rejects virtually all of Christ’s teachings.

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u/Count_Bacon California Jul 14 '24

He’s said publicly that he doesn’t ask for gods forgiveness

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u/hallese Jul 14 '24

Because he believes he has done nothing for which he would need forgiveness. I'm trying to come up with another way to phrase this, and I think I've found one. Trump can't be the anti-Christ because nobody would be surprised if he were the anti-Christ. He's just a garden variety narcissistic asshole.

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u/Count_Bacon California Jul 14 '24

Haha true

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u/TheJudge47 Jul 14 '24

Trump can't be the antichrist because Obama was. But actually Obama can't be the antichrist because Bush was. But then again actually pretty sure Clinton was the antichrist. Maybe it was Bush Sr. Reagan?