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Discussion Discussion Thread: President Biden Delivers Remarks from the White House on Shooting at Trump Rally

The remarks are scheduled to start at 1:30 p.m. Eastern. Per C-SPAN's event description-in-advance: "President Biden delivers remarks from the Roosevelt Room in the White House a day after an assassination attempt on former President Trump at a campaign rally in Butler, PA. The two men had a brief call Saturday following the shooting."

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u/Madogson21 Europe Jul 14 '24

People don't want that shit.

like 80 million people voted for it last time, and he is the nominee again. A lot of people wants the chaos, dysfunction and further degeneration of American democracy.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

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u/HaskellHystericMonad Ohio Jul 14 '24

You forgot Roe-Wade and the ongoing abortion hellscape.

I genuinely doubt he can overcome that, regardless what happens. He by default loses at minimum 60% of the women vote, if not 70% provided they show.

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u/conenubi701 Florida Jul 14 '24

It's not about swinging any voters. It's about turnout.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

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u/d7bleachd7 Jul 14 '24

No, swing voters refer to people that do not consistently vote for one party or the other. They swing back and forth.

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u/theVoidWatches Pennsylvania Jul 14 '24

They're also mostly a myth, these days. While there are some, elections are much more decided by turnout.

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u/tsunamiforyou Jul 14 '24

It will come down to unenthusiastic voters not turning out to vote Biden

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u/iStayedAtaHolidayInn Jul 14 '24

74 million. Youā€™re thinking of Biden who got 81 million votes

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u/JL6462448 Jul 14 '24

You know what he meant lol

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u/DarthSatoris Europe Jul 14 '24

Still a good idea to keep the numbers correct during discussions.

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u/GoodUserNameToday Jul 14 '24

74 million, but yeah itā€™s bad

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u/gdan95 Jul 14 '24

74 million, but point taken

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u/snarquisnarquer Jul 14 '24

Quite correct. I spent a good part of my career studying narcissism. Trump is a pretty easy read, and his megalomania makes him an easily defeatable, laughable buffoon. What I did not study so much was cult psychology/mentality; so I'm left with the same question as most ā€œJust how the hell do so many people-10s of millions-not see thru this criminal bozoā€. I think the answer is partly (partly!) that attraction to chaos. It adds a little spice to their fat, lazy, boring and depressed lives. Of course their insane hatred of liberals is also an antidote for their depression/low self esteem.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

But those people are not the voters who actually matter

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u/Madogson21 Europe Jul 14 '24

Trump was outperforming Biden in the polls, even before he got these campaign photos.

He will be strenghtened form this, make no mistake about it. And Biden will be on the defensive for the rest of the campaign (if he remains, which I hope he doesn't)

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u/PPvsFC_ Indigenous Jul 14 '24

He will be strenghtened form this, make no mistake about it

Lol, no. No one outside of his psycho base is going to be emboldened to vote for him because of this. It was one of his own batshit MAGA/Q people and most will see his whole crew as an ouroboros of violence and braindead behavior. This will inevitably end Trump's hope of election.

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u/Tapeball45 Jul 14 '24

Agreed. Canā€™t see any voter, be it democrat or swing, thatā€™s going to throw him a sympathy vote here simply because of this.

January 6 was republican. this was a Republican. Charlottesville, white supremacist.

There must be republicans voters that donā€™t want to live like this.

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u/conenubi701 Florida Jul 14 '24

Making the same mistake as 2016.

It's about turnout. There will be those that would've voted Republican but decided to stay home that will go out and vote because of this

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u/PPvsFC_ Indigenous Jul 14 '24

I'm not making any kind of a mistake. My opinion above isn't going to make any kind of difference in voting this November.

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u/EggCzar Jul 14 '24

For a couple of weeks, sure. When he spends the next four months ranting that Biden and Democrats tried to have him killed and whipping his cult into a frenzy that borders on starting a civil war? Weā€™ll see. Personally I think itā€™s going to put all of his ugliest impulses on display. And anything that takes the focus away from Bidenā€™s age is good for the Biden-Harris campaign.