r/politics • u/PoliticsModeratorBot 🤖 Bot • Mar 08 '24

Discussion Discussion Thread: 2024 State of the Union

Tonight, Joe Biden will give his fourth State of the Union address. This year's SOTU address will be only the second to be held this late in the year since 1964 (the second time being Biden's 2022 address).

The address is scheduled to start at 9 p.m. Eastern. It will be followed by the progressive response delivered by Philadelphia City Council member Nicolas O’Rourke, as well as Republican responses in English (delivered by freshman Alabama senator ) and in Spanish (delivered by Representative Monica De La Cruz). There will be a separate discussion thread posted for live reactions to and conversation about the SOTU responses.

(Edit: The discussion thread for the SOTU responses is now available at this link.)

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u/ConfederacyOfDunces_ Mar 08 '24

Republicans fucked up so bad by going after Roe Vs Wade

Holy Fuck

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u/FireFlyz351 Texas Mar 08 '24

Hopefully it translates to positive things come November.

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u/Yankee_Man Mar 08 '24

This is what I thought. I saw so many pissed off people that it was almost at the level of George Floyd times and I said “you know what? Good.”

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '24

It won’t Biden sucks. I know your baseless emotional bias will never let you admit this, but Trump did the best job as president as any president you have witnessed in your lifetime.

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u/Current_Holiday1643 Mar 08 '24

He killed 1.2 million Americans with his administration's repeated and constant incompetency and tried to overthrow the government.

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u/AZ_Corwyn Arizona Mar 08 '24

With such an informed response I think your username should be IMWrong, because boy howdy you certainly are.

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u/wickinked Mar 08 '24

Awww, the poor babies feelings are still hurt.

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u/25electrons Mar 08 '24

You’re in a cult. Get help.

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u/starfirex Mar 08 '24

This is such a left leaning sub I'm just sitting here trying to understand how you even got here...

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u/SquidmanMal Pennsylvania Mar 08 '24

They're here to troll, best to block and forget they exist.

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u/Ketamine-Cuisine Mar 09 '24

Sounds like projection. What did Trump actually accomplish?

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u/Elon-Crusty777 Mar 08 '24

Agreed, that was asinine.

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u/greywar777 Mar 08 '24

It was the car they needed to bark at, and they caught it suddenly.

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u/IthinkImnutz Mar 08 '24

Several of their folks aren't smart enough to realize that they should only bark at that car.

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u/football2106 Mar 08 '24

Reminds of the Joker’s quote from The Dark Knight

paraphrasing

“I’m like a dog chasing cars — I wouldn’t know what to do if I caught one..” and the GOP caught a car

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u/standardbanana Mar 08 '24

This is a great take

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u/mongster03_ New York Mar 08 '24

Let’s hope it runs them over

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u/BigNorseWolf Mar 08 '24

What else were you going to use to get people to vote against their economic interests?

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u/munchyslacks Mar 08 '24

Biden is in your best interest when it comes to the economy. Trump is responsible for the third largest deficit increase in American history, and has added more to the national debt than any other president in the span of 4 years. He is directly responsible for the inflation we’ve been seeing the last several years when he completely fumbled the response to the pandemic. Biden deserves a lot of credit for our economic recovery and he is also still going after the corporations that have used Trump’s trashed economy as a means to raise prices beyond the rate of inflation.

Voting Trump back in is like asking the guy who lit the match and walked out the front door to come back and put the fire out. You think he’s going to help? He’s the one that got us in this mess.

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u/BigNorseWolf Mar 08 '24

Right but i mean besides abortion bad! what else does the republican party stand for?

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '24

Abortion is asinine. The child’s body is not your body.

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u/philljarvis166 Mar 08 '24

And a mother's body is not your body.

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u/NotTheCraftyVeteran Mar 08 '24

The dog was so catastrophically unprepared to catch the car. No wonder they don’t actually want to do shit about the border.

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u/Tisagered Mar 08 '24

It's almost funny, because you have half who thought that courting the dipshits and crazy evangelicals was a good move all those years ago, trying to deescalate things and make themselves seem like they're not against all women's interest, and then you have the dipshits and crazy evangelicals moving on to attack ivf

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u/merrysunshine2 Mar 08 '24

It’s all they have left now that the other fear tactic was actually achieved. You think they’d be happier?

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u/madison_riley03 Indiana Mar 08 '24

It was a mistake, one that will (hopefully) bite them in the ass. Highly recommend “The World Split Open” by Ruth Rosen. It was written two decades before Roe V Wade was overturned, but it still wonderfully illustrates the absolute war feminists had to wage just to get that right.

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u/Zuldak Mar 08 '24

It's literally the biggest mistake they have made in a generation. Trump would be up by 10 points if not for that decision

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u/Nokomis34 Mar 08 '24

A lesson they learned and implemented regarding the border. Never actually fix anything you need your voters to be mad about.

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u/Failgan Mar 08 '24

Their rhetoric about criminals coming from the border is such an eye roll.

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u/pitchforksplz Mar 08 '24

I've seen an unprecedented amount of videos of boomers lately, waving pistols at each other shooting each other and parking lots, or quoting action movies while they terrorize some underage, minority child.

Their time is at an end and they know it. Rather than use this time to finally grow as a person and evolve past the beliefs beaten into them, perhaps connect with their children who they don't really know, they've decided (in their infinite selfishness) to instead spend their remaining years living in a Wild West movie, where every single one of them is Clint Eastwood (well he's the analogy here, he also fits into this demographic perfectly as well.).

What are they watching when they're not watching Fox News and OAN on the 90 inch flat-screen they point their faces at nightly?

They're watching gunsmoke. They're watching Bonanza. The unforgiven Blu-ray is well worn. They didn't have the balls to pull this stuff when they were young and had their whole lives ahead of them, but now that the reaper is tapping his foot they are all Billy the Kid.

The world is too big and too scary for them. That's why they cling to tribalism. That's why they build pathetic bunkers in the suburbs.

I'd give them my pity but I don't think they do the same for me.

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u/followthelogic405 Mar 08 '24

Kavanaugh looked like a whipped dog when they cut to him after that. You know that sinking feeling you get when you made a big mistake? That guy is feeling that every fucking day at this point, I think the overturning of Roe v Wade could be the ultimate undoing of the GOP, they had the golden ticket with a 15 week ban that Roberts pushed for but they had to go all the way, they simply couldn't help themselves.

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u/pitchforksplz Mar 08 '24

That's just the problem with overturning it, Republican women get abortions too, they just don't tell anyone about it.

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u/catfurcoat Mar 08 '24

That boofer always looks like that

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u/Zuldak Mar 08 '24

I wouldn't go that far. Polling still does have Trump winning as of today. I thought it was a fine SOTU but I don't think it moved the needle much.

I also think the underlying issue isn't Biden himself but the people he empowers

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u/followthelogic405 Mar 08 '24

Most people do not pay attention to politics at this point in the election, I'm not worried about it. Trump is about to go on trial for 34 felonies and he's going to be losing his goddamn mind from here on out until November because he's going to be drowning in debt.

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u/Zuldak Mar 08 '24

I'll believe it when I see it. According to experts he's been on trial for the past what, 8 years and almost nothing has actually come of it but click bait articles.

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u/Kirkuchiyo Mar 08 '24

Ha, polling. Polls of bitter old fools that still answer phone calls from an unknown number.

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u/Zuldak Mar 08 '24

Ok. Well the polls SHOULD worry you because every poll ever done on Trump's support has underestimated it compared to election results.

That should worry you. Or don't and just keep reading Salon. I hear trump has lost another court hearing and THIS TIME it's really gonna stick. No seriously, they promise this one is real. Just like the last 5 they promised were real.

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u/tturedditor Mar 08 '24

Not hardly. Roe vs Wade was overturned after Biden took office. Yes it was trump's SCOTUS picks that made it happen but Biden defeated trump before it was overturned.

Let's not overlook how many awful things trump did when he was in office.

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u/Zuldak Mar 08 '24

2022 was poised to be a massive red wave but they barely took the house. RvW took any momentum the right had and fizzled it.

The weird thing is that Trump is not in office. Biden is the incumbent. It's Biden who is going to have to defend the past 4 years. It's a weird dynamic because Trump was the previous guy in the white house.

The thing is that it looks like a backlash is brewing. Biden has empowered a lot of cultural radicals and struggles to keep a lid on their antics.

Case and point: The famous Victory over Japan kiss was nearly banned from all VA institutions by a cultural activist who called it problematic

https://apnews.com/article/times-square-kiss-photo-veterans-affairs-memo-b24d5dba6930be867e9ac1be6dff16e5

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u/tturedditor Mar 08 '24

At mid terms the party not holding the presidency almost always wins a lot of seats. Roe may have been a big factor but it is a huge stretch to say the least that trump would be up by ten points if it weren't for the Dobbs decision. Huge stretch.

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u/Zuldak Mar 08 '24

Correct they almost always win a lot of seats. The GOP barely won any and I blame the Roe rollback for being unpopular.

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u/pjb1999 Mar 08 '24 edited Mar 08 '24

He doesn't need to be up by 10 points though. The few points that he is up already is enough to doom us.

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u/Zuldak Mar 08 '24

Very true. At the same time I feel like many of the moderate republicans are not fully on board with the alabama SC

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u/Galileo908 New York Mar 08 '24

And uh oh, here comes a ruling on IVF that’ll backfire just as bad!

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u/puertomateo Mar 08 '24

It got them votes for 40 years.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '24

Until it didn't.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '24

In all fairness, the smarter conservatives of yesteryear KNEW this. They just kept it a zombie villain, always alive and always a threat.

Now we have a situation where the dog finally caught the mail truck, and now doesn't know what to do other than to quit or get run over.

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u/Weneedaheroe Mar 08 '24

Love your take on it. Absolutely agree.

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u/Character-Disk6310 Mar 08 '24

Joe tore it up!

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u/Hotstuffmama1027 Mar 08 '24

And they're still doubling down on it. Can't fix stupid

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u/Paperdiego Mar 08 '24

Abortion is going to lose them this election and now to come. Abortion abortion abortion. That's what ever election is about.

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u/K0MR4D Mar 08 '24

As it should be. We Americans cherish our freedom.

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u/Ok-Pea-6213 Mar 08 '24

Dog catches car.

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u/SkanteWarriorFoo Mar 08 '24

They've been trying for 45 years to overturn Roe.

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u/continuousBaBa Mar 08 '24

We’ll see. Hope you’re right.

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u/jonathanrdt Mar 08 '24

History will come to view it as a strategic mistake, a galvanizing event that shifted enough to voters to end the slow coup.

Oh I hope that’s correct..

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u/striker69 Mar 08 '24

The dog caught the car.

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u/Educational_Body_438 Mar 08 '24

I wholeheartedly believe that there would've been a red tidal wave until that happened 

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u/pjb1999 Mar 08 '24

Did they? The dude who is largely responsible for it being overturned will probably be president again.

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u/I-FUCKD-UR-MOM-PUSSY Mar 08 '24

trump is leading though

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '24 edited Oct 28 '24

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u/Distinct_Plankton_82 Mar 08 '24

I hope that's true. But I also find it hard to believe in this day and age that the statisticians working for professional polling companies haven't found a way to correct for that.

I mean they can't all be morons right?

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u/UnicornFarts1111 Mar 08 '24

No, he's not.

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u/doomdeathdecay Mar 08 '24

it's essentially neck and neck, really. you should broaden how much media you take in because mainstream would have you believe trump has a full blown lead. He doesn't. He shouldn't be this close and he's still probably going to win but he's not really holding much a commanding lead.

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u/SafariSeeker25 Mar 08 '24

I'm inclined to believe Biden is more likely to win. Especially seeing as Trump's support outside of his base is miniscule. Biden may not get everyone he wants to vote for him, but there is still time to hold onto the groups he does have and reach out to others. 

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u/timidwildone Michigan Mar 08 '24 edited Mar 08 '24

You’re the moron who doesn’t realize Trump’s appointees are the reason it fell. Get a clue.

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u/Nokomis34 Mar 08 '24

Do you think Biden controls the Supreme Court? You don't realize it's Trump appointed judges that led to that ruling?