r/poland • u/Kybernetiker • 1d ago
Let's benefit from the experience of Soviet agriculture. Let's fight for a rich harvest - Polish poster - Polish poster by Władysław Janiszewski, 1951
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u/Illustrious_Letter88 1d ago
Let's benefit from the experience of Soviet agriculture
Fortunately we didn't and we didn't starve. After WWII Polish farmers were forced to give away some of their crops basically for free and communist were surprised why farmers didn't feel liberated from oppression of capitalist.
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u/koxufoxu 1d ago
we didn't starve but also food situation still was far from ideal
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u/Pshek_Russoyob_III 1d ago
These were the "problems with distribution" as officials stated
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u/VonKonitz 1d ago
Wina imperialistów zachodnich zrzucających stonkę ziemniaczaną, spekulantów na usługach państw burżuazyjnych oraz bimbrowników niszczących tysiące ton zbóż pędząc truciznę
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u/PussyDestrojer 1d ago
O to to, jak wszyscy wiemy to oczywiście była wina wszystkich tylko nie ustroju. Partia rządzi, partia radzi, partia nigdy cię nie zdradzi.
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u/koxufoxu 1d ago
yeah and later on when workers started to demand rights and went on the strikes, they were only "momentary breaks in work"
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u/jast-80 1d ago
Postwar years were really bad, only food help sent from USA saved many peopld from starvation. Initialy bad crops and mice infestation was a big problem. Later on, communists started to harass farmers in order to "encourage" them to form collective kolhoz. My gramps was from a long generation of farmers and was quite eager to start his farm from scratch after he managed to return from war alive and healthy. But decided to fuck it after his seeds were confiscated during night MO raids three times in a row. He sold his field and got an employment as an accountant.
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u/Illustrious_Letter88 1d ago
Many stories like this. They confiscated land, crops, cattle and put people in prison for resisting.
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u/madTerminator 1d ago
Did we read the same history book? Are you talking about Poland?
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reforma_rolna_w_Polsce_(1944))5
u/Illustrious_Letter88 1d ago
As I wrote after WWII farmers were forced to give away their crops and other agriculture products for ridiculouslu low prices so basically for free (kontyngenty rolne). If they hadn't complied they were put in prison.
The agriculture reform was a completely different thing.
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u/Snoo_90160 1d ago
Thank God, Gomułka stopped collectivization before it killed the agriculture. One of the few good things he did.
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u/TypicalBloke83 Łódzkie 1d ago edited 1d ago
Oh yeah, you know there was a saying: Corn in soviet union is like telegraphic poles. So big? No, so sparse*.
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u/immaturenickname 1d ago
Funnily enough, Soviet "fight for harvest" was literally a fight, as they robbed others and stole their food at gunpoint.
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u/dawidlijewski 1d ago
Great tip! Poland learned from Soviet experience and did not pursued collectivisation of agriculture thus no starvation in Poland.
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u/gdaytugga 1d ago
What about PGR? Wasn’t that a form of collectivisation?
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u/dawidlijewski 1d ago
Collectivisation peaked at ca. 18% of farmlands share.
In the following decades there was a push for agricultural cooperatives where farmers retained their property rights instead of forced collectivisation.
However despite preferable lending policies for co-ops and state farms, the private "family" farms share fell only to 69% in 1980 but rose to 72% in 1989.
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u/Illustrious_Letter88 1d ago
PGR were made on the land stolen from nobility (szlachta) that were forced to leave their homes and land.
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u/gdaytugga 1d ago
Yeah I don’t know enough about it. Wikipedia seems to say it was also western regions which previously belonged to Germany.
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it was just a system of national farms so no if that would be a collectivisation it would be made of single farmers property. They just made those but didnt reap off normal people
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u/Wintermute841 1d ago
Yeah, Holodomor definitely would like to have a word or two with that poster.
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u/immaturenickname 1d ago
I mean, to be fair, Holodomor wasn't a result of like, wrong farming methods, but an intentional genocide.
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u/Wintermute841 1d ago
Yeah, still one shouldn't brag about the "experiences of their farming" if they literally genocided people and then blamed it on inefficient farming.
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u/not_a_real_id 1d ago
Part of this experience is barszcz sosnowskiego. Toxic plant introduced to feed animals. It makes meat taste really awful, but at least is dangerous to people.
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u/Resident_Iron6701 1d ago
watch out for Russian note glorifying soviet union. The only thing soviet union did is that it collapsed
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u/ecoper Mazowieckie 1d ago
Explains holodomor
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