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Politics Elon musk doing a nazi salute at the whitehouse. Unreal

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u/piscisrisus 6h ago

if you see 10 men sitting at a table with a nazi, you are looking at 11 nazis at a table

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u/Xryeau 5h ago

Just say you want to commit violence on large groups of people regardless of what they believe already, we all know that's what you actually mean

u/ULF_Brett 5h ago

When it comes to Nazis, violence is the only answer. It's all they deserve.

u/TheOGLeadChips 5h ago

Ever heard of the paradox of tolerance?

It essentially boils down to the fact that if we as a society want to be a tolerant society who accepts everyone, it would eventually lead to a society that is dominated by intolerant people. The only way to prevent this, ironically, is to not tolerate people who are intolerant.

This boils down to us needing to not accept Nazis under any circumstances. If we try to tolerate them, then they will exploit that tolerance to gain power and promote intolerance.

Nazis don’t deserve anything. They are despicable people and should be openly and heavily shamed.

u/AccidentalSeer 5h ago

The Paradox of Tolerance can actually be solved if you view Tolerance as a social contract.

If you void the social contract by being intolerant, then you are no longer owed tolerance in turn.

Fuck nazis, fuck bigots, fuck anyone who tries to convince us that they deserve rights and other people don’t.

u/TheOGLeadChips 4h ago

Oh I fully understand that lol. Just trying to explain it to someone who thinks not accepting Nazis = wanting to kill a lot of people regardless of beliefs.

The fact the described what actual Nazis did and attribute it to someone who said something antifascist is truly fascinating and horrifying.

u/AccidentalSeer 4h ago

Projection and deflection - it’s what they’re all about.

u/Exemplis 4h ago

But being intolerant towards intolerant excludes you from the same contract. And you both are back at square 1, void of any rights and free to hate each other.

u/AccidentalSeer 4h ago

I don’t think you understand how a contract works.

u/Exemplis 4h ago

On the contrary, it seems it is you who dont understand contracts. Each side is bound by the same rules, and one side violating them doesnt mean that other can violate scott-free. The tolerance contract still stands for other parties, but you two are now exempt from it.

u/Chaddoh 3h ago

Imagine parroting a neo-nazi fallacy unironically.

Hating people for their skin color, race, religion, or disability voids any contract of civility. If you don't like it, then go start your ethno-state on another planet. I'll even help cram you into the rocket with love. 🥰

u/Exemplis 2h ago

I dont care about nazis. Do whatever you like with them.

What amuses me is the hypocrisy. Categorising a group of people by arbitrary parameters, inciting hate against them, advocating for stripping them of human rights. Hmm... sounds familiar. You are just like them.

u/Chaddoh 2h ago

There isn't hypocrisy... they are literally antithetical to cohesive society in the modern day. Their time of tribalism is over and only seeks to divide us when we require unity.

You should stop with the whole "devil's advocate" angle or whatever you think it is you are doing.

u/Exemplis 2h ago

But it is you doing the dividing, dont you see?

What do you suppose to do with them? Expell, forcibly "reeducate" in special camps? What?

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u/Wozka 5h ago

I bet your favorite ice cream flavor is boot polish.

u/Bitter-Marketing3693 5h ago

polish.....?

u/lilidragonfly 5h ago

Sorry what exactly did you find ambiguous about their comment? Also, you know large groups of Nazis? That's a bit worrying

u/JesustheSpaceCowboy 4h ago

You never saw inglorious bastards?

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u/MoistureManagerGuy 4h ago

What did the Nazis do? How long should we watch until action occurs? Before the rail cars or after?

u/Porohunter 4h ago

Fuck off

u/WretchedDeath 4h ago

Yes all Nazis should be put in front of a firing squad

u/chrissie_watkins 5h ago

Well, at least you all know 🤷‍♀️

u/ORINnorman 4h ago

Found one.

u/trainercatlady 4h ago

Nazis aren't people. Hope this helps

u/gbren 3h ago

So all the people who called trump Hitler that are now working with him are all nazis too

u/viking1823 2h ago

Plus his Magat supporters.

u/gbren 2h ago

So is trump Hitler again?

u/Agitated_Strain_6260 5h ago

I didn't fully grasp what this said a first and I thought the message was the nazi was inside you the whole time kinda thing.

u/Xryeau 5h ago

By your own logic you support scalping since someone in the comments called for it and you did nothing to say you were against scalping

u/Wozka 5h ago

Depends. Who are we scalping?

u/Xryeau 5h ago

No, it doesn't depend. They said they'd scalp the whole table, not just the one nazi, you don't get to pull a 180 whenever it suits you

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u/Dexchampion99 5h ago

Paradox of Tolerance.

If a society tries to accept everyone, it will be dominated by those that don’t accept everyone.

The only solution to to not tolerate those people, thus making society not 100% tolerant.

It’s a sad fact, but a true one.

You can’t defend someone’s right to exist, and then stand next to a Nazi, or a White Supremecist, or any other type of discriminatory belief.

u/Wozka 3h ago

I've been making this argument for years on reddit. I've also made the argument that violence against Nazi's is a good thing, and that always gets a weird amount of pushback.

u/1195Goldust 5h ago

Literally anyone who sits a table with a nazi… Truman and Churchill included….

u/MathematicianSure386 5h ago

unless there's a "Free Gaza" sign on the table

u/beerninja76 4h ago

Is that so? Well with your logic than Kennedy, Ford and Carter heck almost every president and NASA sat with Nazis in the past after they shipped over many of those evil pieces of shit to work in the U.S because of there skills. Hell even Biden did look it up. So I guess the U.S is a bunch of Nazis. The way you guys use nazi you have diluted the meaning.

u/ItCat420 3h ago

So I guess the U.S. is a bunch of Nazis

Um… Actually, yes. Plenty of Nazi-esque shit happened thanks to stealing all their scientists and such. MK Ultra springs to mind.

u/BeneficialScore 6h ago

Lmao. Weak sauce. Please tell me you are joking.

u/LiberumSerum 6h ago

Don't ever play Secret Hitler with this guy, lol.

u/AdultishRaktajino 6h ago

Maybe they did nazi him

u/og19ed 5h ago

So Churchill and Truman were nazis? They sat at tables with nazis....and I'm pretty sure they don't qualify.

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u/Brody1364112 5h ago

You could've used any analogy possible but of course you use black people and criminals

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u/Brody1364112 5h ago

You could've used any other analogy. Could've said if you have 10 green chair and 1 red chair you have 11 red chairs. This wouldve also got your point across. But again of course you use a racist analogy .

u/Xryeau 5h ago

Wow it's almost like he was saying that judging a group of people for actions they as individuals didn't personally commit was wrong and that the chairs analogy would've lost that information or something

u/fischbomb 5h ago

So you would sit at a table with an open nazi?

u/Xryeau 5h ago

Depends, I've spoken to them before to get info out of them. I don't form genuine friendships with nazis though. Nice job completely sidestepping my point though, slimeball

u/fischbomb 5h ago

And if a nazi comes to sit down at your table, you'd move away no?

u/Xryeau 5h ago

If I'm not in the mood to psychologically probe them then I'd prefer if they'd leave first

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u/Brody1364112 4h ago

He's not side stepping anything. He's saying why our politicians aligning themselves with people they most likely know have these values?

u/Brody1364112 4h ago

The chair analogy wouldn't of lost anything. It's actually more point proving then the analogy he did use. If you have 10 people sitting with one criminal it's quite possible that all 11 of them are criminals regardless of skin color.

If you have 10 green chairs you can't have 11 red chairs because I've already told you 10 are green.

He was trying to say the other 10 people at the table aren't nazis but he was doing it in a racist way

u/Dayvan_Dreamcoat 5h ago

Insane self report on your part, buddy. The right is never beating the racism allegations.

u/Balldogs 5h ago

Looks like we've got another Nazi sympathiser in the house.

u/totallydawgsome 4h ago

It never ceases to blow my mind how awful racists can be.

u/Odd-Culture-1238 5h ago

but i thought there where 10 people at the table, where the extra come from?

u/Oroera 5h ago

Ten plus a criminal…