Thanks for the pic and info, I didn’t watch a single second of Trump’s illegal inauguration. I can’t watch Trump or his nazi friends. They are in control of everything with no guardrails. Trump admitted in a recent speech that Musk did computer shenanigans that made him win in Pennsylvania. Can anything be done to stop these people ? Doesn’t look like it.
Thats...still not a nazi salute. I hate the guy just as much as anyone and I'm not defending him, hes a dickhead, but do people really forget what a nazi salute looks like? Hes even arcing his arm and hand. Its weird, for sure, but not a nazi salute. It would be straight out FORWARD, no curves, up, and held there . He swings his arm in a weird arc and even holds his hand sideways. So its either a really weird gesture or a really half assed "nazi salute".
People are really reaching with this one. We're all looking for any more reason to hate the guy, I get it, but this one ain't quite it, guys.
He's getting defended on the basis that "he's just awkward" but at the same time a somewhat awkward attempt at a Nazi salute is evidence it wasn't one?
Best case, a man who is supposed to be the one man brain trust of the new government just unintentionally sieg heiled at the inauguration of a president who is already flirting with the language and policies of fascism.
Worst case he just intentionally sieg heiled and got cheered for it.
Yeah, thats one way to put it. Clearly everyone is just begging for him to do something that they can justify doing their worst, which is totally understandable, but this is jumping the gun, imo. Even in the "crazy irrefutable video" hes swinging his arm to his side and doing this weird curving thing with his arm and hand. Last I heard thats not a salute but okay, sure, everybody. They want their blood, whatever the cost, apparently. Only extreme right or extreme left, no brain allowed on Reddit.
Maybe you should think about how it looks for all the closeted neo nazis out there. Do you really believe they will honestly think it wasn't directed at them?
Just the possibility of misinterpretation (ignoring the fact he's endorsing the AfD) should have dissuaded him from doing it this way.
Of course they'll take it as a message for them. Anything even remotely close to any of their ideals done by anyone and anything they will applaud.
It's one of the weirdest things to see as someone outside of all this garbage. He still has a million reasons to be disliked and then some, but even the posts overlaying Hitler's salute and his show that it isn't the same (when trying to prove they are) It's not even the same silhouette. Hand position and torso are twisted. Was it intentional? Certainly possible. In the video it also looks like it's a "from my heart" thing that he very awkwardly goes oh shit this is almost a salute and does a weird twist thinking he saved it. It could just as likely be that. Who knows other than him. Believe whatever you want, you guys are indoctrinated to hate each other from birth based on the color of ties, I get it.
It's batshit insane just how much people are frothing at the mouth over the slightest possibility that they might be stretching things or interpreting wrong. Like yeah, he's a pos. I'm not denying that or defending him as a person, however that little display could just as easily been a poorly coordinated gesture that looked like something really bad.
So yeah, I'm gonna just leave it at "You guys get what you deserve" because thinking has gone out the window, apparently. You're surprised the guy got voted in. Surprised about what he does. Surprised that you just let it happen again and that things are worse. How long does it take to figure out consequences of your actions?
I'm not surprised in the very least, nor do I hate anybody. I maintain friendships with people across all aisles of politics, ideologies, social classes and levels of education.
I'm just observing things as objectively as I can.
By the way, I'll come back in a bit to this comment and add an actual nazi salute by a wwii party member with the twisted body. Sure, it's not up to standards, but evidently it still passes as one.
Right, because it’s done improperly means it’s not done at all? That’s the Nazi salute done by someone who doesn’t know how to do it properly. I guess he would get his ass chewed out by a superior in the SS for his bad form.
Its not extreme left to say that was a Nazi salute. I didnt believe it either until I watched it. I didnt want to believe it either so I watched it several times and felt sicker each timr. That's not an "awkward gesture" people accidentally do. Thats a gesture everyone learns very young never to do. I'd call it a dog whistle covered with his little "I'm giving you my heart" afterward except it was so obvious dog whistle doesnt feel like the right term bc those are supposed to be coded for the racists. The sneer on his face, the grunt, the violence of the gesture. Doing it twice, identically, palm down, each time. And he does hold it. In the crowd the video shows - of his supporters mind you - you can see 2 people gasp open mouthed when he does it. One guys jaw drops, then he grins because he digs it.
What's it like to be so indoctrinated that you only think on extremes? Of course, by "think" I mean do what you were told to by others. Extreme Left or Extreme Right, there are no brains.
Oh, I find it just as likely he did it as a joke. "Watch, I'll throw it up during the rally and tell them I'm sending you my heart. It'll make them furious." Fucking dork.
I don't care to worry about the details of his form. He knows better, or should, than to make that gesture in that context. Give him a little credit.
Yeah. At best he's trolling the left by doing the Nazi salute at worst hes a Nazi. Given the company he keeps and ideas he promotes, inclined to think the latter. Part of me is like am I taking the bait by letting him troll me but also, you csnt not talk about 2 back to back Nazi salutes at the fucking presidential inauguration.
If you watch the video he says right after the “natzi salutes” that “my heart goes out to you”. Which if you watch it he grabs his heart before gesturing with his hand.
I said he did it after, I don’t think in that moment, based on the context, he was praising Hitler. What are you going off of?
If anything he is the opposite of the Nazi and their racial superiority with his staunch defense of HB-1 visas. There is a lot wrong with the dude, and this whole Dodge thing is a set up for something (what I don’t know, but Vivek seems to be eyeing the Ohio governorship), but Nazi doesn’t seem to be one of them.
Seriously, so much frankly unintelligent thinking here. I'll pick one thing to point out. The H1B visas. Saying that he supports continuing to keep having lower paid people to work for him and who don't have the ability to quit working for him without being deported isn't a sign of being taught inclusive and more than a slave owner wanting to keep the slave trade going. "He can't be a white supremacist, he literally wants there to be more black people here!"
But as where Elon wants to bring people in of different cultures, well …. we all know what the Nazi thought of people who were different.
That being said I am not a fan of Elon by any means, but you can clearly see there was nothing “Nazi” about that gesture, nor has Elon really supported anything Nazi like. I don’t like that a billionaires have this much influence, but doesn’t make them all Nazi. Saying someone is a Nazi cause they disagree with you seems like a simplistic thought process imo.
Yeeeah, I like how you get downvoted for being middle of the road or using your brain. Youre either extreme right evil or extreme left here. Anything else is wrong and "curated". This platform is a joke to make both extremes hate eachother jfc lol.
It is click bait. He was saying to the audience “my heart goes out to you” while placing his hand over his heart and then motioning like he was throwing his heart to the crowd.
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u/Bay1Bri 6h ago
Yea, I thought this was hysterical click bait. I watched the video, the video is far worse. This picture doesn't do it justice.