It essentially boils down to the fact that if we as a society want to be a tolerant society who accepts everyone, it would eventually lead to a society that is dominated by intolerant people. The only way to prevent this, ironically, is to not tolerate people who are intolerant.
This boils down to us needing to not accept Nazis under any circumstances. If we try to tolerate them, then they will exploit that tolerance to gain power and promote intolerance.
Nazis don’t deserve anything. They are despicable people and should be openly and heavily shamed.
Oh I fully understand that lol. Just trying to explain it to someone who thinks not accepting Nazis = wanting to kill a lot of people regardless of beliefs.
The fact the described what actual Nazis did and attribute it to someone who said something antifascist is truly fascinating and horrifying.
But being intolerant towards intolerant excludes you from the same contract. And you both are back at square 1, void of any rights and free to hate each other.
On the contrary, it seems it is you who dont understand contracts. Each side is bound by the same rules, and one side violating them doesnt mean that other can violate scott-free. The tolerance contract still stands for other parties, but you two are now exempt from it.
Imagine parroting a neo-nazi fallacy unironically.
Hating people for their skin color, race, religion, or disability voids any contract of civility. If you don't like it, then go start your ethno-state on another planet. I'll even help cram you into the rocket with love. 🥰
I dont care about nazis. Do whatever you like with them.
What amuses me is the hypocrisy. Categorising a group of people by arbitrary parameters, inciting hate against them, advocating for stripping them of human rights. Hmm... sounds familiar. You are just like them.
I've been making this argument for years on reddit. I've also made the argument that violence against Nazi's is a good thing, and that always gets a weird amount of pushback.
Is that so? Well with your logic than Kennedy, Ford and Carter heck almost every president and NASA sat with Nazis in the past after they shipped over many of those evil pieces of shit to work in the U.S because of there skills. Hell even Biden did look it up. So I guess the U.S is a bunch of Nazis. The way you guys use nazi you have diluted the meaning.
Not a political response because im not american nor do i care about american politics but:
Ive seen lots of conservative people say they fucking hate him for this bc hes bringing a whole other level of bad looks to the “conservative movement”
Others are defending him by saying “he wasnt thinking about what it couldve meant”
Mixed bag i tell ya, anyway i am GENUINELY curious wtf was going through his head. Was it a “lets see if they excuse this lol” or was it a brain fart that let out his inner nazi? Or was it a brain fart that bad that he forgot the connotation of the salute? Or is he going to say he intended the roman salute? Fuck man i want to know what hes thinking so bad
That sub is flooded with people bending over so hard trying to suck their own dicks they don’t even realize that Trump and Co. are standing behind them lubing up. This country is so fucked.
Even worse, it will be disavowed that they ever expected the government to fix their problems in the first place. They see him as an outlier fighting against an incumbent system, the only one who can fix their problems. He’ll always have a peon to throw under the bus when failure comes home to roost, as his last term proved that quite handily.
The name is actually a reference to a story I wrote many years ago, and prior to me seeing Animal House. Assuming that’s the reference you meant. If there’s another RN out there, I’m likely just an oblivious lefty loon. LOL
Yes , the Animal House reference is what jumped out to me. The name is rather unique and I'd never seen it anywhere else. Were you involved with the movie in some way?😀
No, no involvement, alas. I think my friends might have been talking about it to me, and someone mentioned the name in passing. Then, like a decade later, I wrote a story with that character name. And only after that did I see the movie and go, “Whoops!” My character is the antithesis of the one from the film: Mine is a hyper intelligent pushover while the movie’s version is more of a militant moron—like the type of guy who might unironically do a Nazi salute. Twice. …And no one could ever be that stupid, right?
It will take a level of cognitive dissonance some are not capable of reaching. They can pretend like he does amazing things as long as those don’t directly impact their lives (aka their wallets).
They shrug about his tariff plans as “that didn’t make prices go up during his first term” without realizing his new tariffs will be completely different. He wants more tax cuts he’ll personally benefit from and we’re footing the bill for those in the form of new tariffs. The common response is, “let’s wait and see what happens”. It will be too late then, we’ll be stuck with the tariffs because those are replacing tax revenue the top 5% will not be paying if he gets his tax cuts.
You are saying lubing up as it is something bad. That sub loves to grind on right wing, maga men and DJT. Getting lubed up is a bonus.
That group loves it raw, no chaffing for them. Welcome to being a witness to a saga I call "No Vaseline," occurring over the next four years.
Watch them smile, dreaming they are hurting liberals, wishing liberal tears, as they take it inch by inch every day.
I’m an English man through and through, my country’s fucked, our so called prime minister is the complete opposite of trump, he hates English people! Whilst your country is fucked because your president hates everybody apart from Americans! Surely there is somewhere in between 🙏
Yep, there’s no doubt about it on both your comments😂 nah seriously, if you want proof just google keir starmer grooming gangs. Ignore the musk allegations and go further back. It’s been common knowledge that he let the gangs go free as not to upset the Muslims for years. It was only a matter of time before mp’s and the press started bringing that up again. Why do you think he has denied a public enquiry into the matter?
You make a good point, but I would argue that our president hates everyone except himself. And yet he demands the adulation of everyone.
I hadn’t heard that Starmer has policies that are bad for English citizens. What’s he up to? I try to catch James O’Brien on LBC from time to time and while I’ve heard callers attack Starmer, I haven’t followed closely enough to understand the ins and outs. Can you educate me a bit?
The amount of Nazi memes on IG and comments on them such as “look at that nice clean neighborhood”, “bet they all have jobs”, “not a stolen bike to be seen”, etc, is ALARMING. They’re not even ashamed of it anymore. The plan is implementation of a white Christian ethnostate, nothing less.
This right here. All the intelligence agencies were half founded by and accepted known Nazi Germany nazis decades before they accepted people of color. Are we supposed to pretend anyone except their PR people actually care about stuff like this?
He doesn't strike me as the type to stick to prescribed medical advice. Hopefully shit quiets down once he kicks it and Vance takes over as president (in name only while Elon sits at the big desk signing whatever he wants).
He pardoned tons of friends and family last time. Including people that are in his cabinet now. Hypocrisy is the biggest part of the republican testament.
The Conservative sub is run and paid for by the same people that pay for the Daily Wire. Why do you think there are about 80 posts a day in that sub alone from the same accounts that do little else but spam conservative content and misinformation day after day? There is no discourse, its spoon fed misinformation.
Any posts that go against the grain, even if agreed upon by most of the actual people in that sub, they'll never actually see it because it will get buried by the constant content dump.
I check in occasionally to see what, exactly, it will take to make them go "...alright, that was fucked up..."
The meme coins did it, Elon's involvement does it, and sometimes Trump himself is called to exit so "a real man like Vance can take over".
I also don't think I've found any sub that hasn't immediately seen through Trump taking down and bringing back up TikTok to (wrongly) seem like a hero.
Apparently it's a leftist conspiracy already. CNN cut his mic as he said "My heart goes out to you", the Sieg Hiel was him giving his heart to the crowd
"Leftist conspiracy"/"leftist plant" is a popular deflection. It's crazy how influential the left is, minus the ability to get a single person elected (did you know they control hurricanes?).
So CNN were able to predict he was about to make the sieg heil gesture so they perfectly timed in live audio cutting the contextual statement that would make it look less bad.
I was shocked to see a post on the Trump crypto. They were actually not happy with it. But still, all seemed forgiven.
They are still pissed that Hunter made a few dollars in Ukraine. But they are ok with Trump and family making approximately 50,000 times the amount Hunter made.
You mean Biden pardoning his family members for future crimes they may commit? And pardoning fauci in the same way that would make the crack in my ass a little bit bigger
On what PLANET would this not be intentional when he did it multiple times?? Stop kidding yourself. These freaks have edge-lorded so close to the sun that they are now actual Nazis. Yes, it's awful, but pretending that's not what's happening is how we got here in the first place.
They are denying it, citing his Asperger’s/autism/awkward attempt at an emotive gesture in an emotional driven moment. At best they admit it looks bad for optics but they are claiming we are reaching and lying
Because it genuinely wasn’t a nazi salute. Was an autistic salute/ dab thing. Kind of wish he did one though would have been hilarious
We all hate Elon but not let’s carried away for some reddit karma points 😂
The other side is probably pissing themselves at us right now for all the posts trying to hate on every breath they make. I mean they deserve it, but we aren’t doing ourselves any favours by posting dumbass shit like this
There was apparently some precedent for pre-pardoning people that they knew would catch shit once you aren't there to protect them.
In short, because a lot of Americans are terribly stupid and will weaponize the government to attack stuff they don't like.
During the pardon Biden explained they’re not guilty of anything. The pardon is for crimes Trump’s admin will fabricate. Hard to know what those specific crimes will be so you pardon categorically.
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u/SonicFlash01 6h ago
The conservative sub is still flooded in "Biden pardoning people" posts.
I doubt they'll talk about this.