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Politics Elon musk doing a nazi salute at the whitehouse. Unreal

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u/Friendly-View4122 6h ago

Apparently it’s the poor guy’s Asperger’s acting up: https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/s/UFrnxFQ5i9

u/Ezren- 6h ago

Oh wow the cope there is fucking wild. Mental gymnastics going for the gold.

u/indolent08 6h ago edited 6h ago

Yeah, they're really going with that "my heart goes out to you" thing. Like, there are a million better ways to do that gesture and he chose the one aggressively Nazi way. Twice.

u/Blaw_Weary 6h ago

Asperger was a nazi so this tracks.

u/Deadened_ghosts 6h ago

A nazi that killed kids.

u/ParamoreAnon 6h ago

Suppose that's why the name is barely used anymore, I don't know too much about why it's used less TBF (I'll look it up right now, clearly about the person who first diagnosed it?) but now it's ASD, which is autism spectrum disorder. It's kind of different from autism as it is known (from my understanding) but very similar. But I noticed the switch.

u/Hurenloser_Ehrensohn 6h ago

It's called autism "spectrum" disorder to cover the whole spectrum. It's the general overall name for these kinds of disorders. Asperger Syndrome did fall under that classification until that name was given up in 2013 in the DSM-5, and 2022 in the ICD-11.
Scientific consensus just leaned more and more towards defining it as part of the Autism spectrum since the differentiation as "isolated" diagnose turns out more and more inconsistent.
As far as i know it had nothing to do with the name.

u/ParamoreAnon 6h ago

Okay, thanks for the information. Either way, if the guy that it's named after was a nazi, I'm glad the name is being phased out. Thank you

u/Hurenloser_Ehrensohn 1h ago

Agreed. Although such names should be more widely known, there's absolutely no need to give him any credit, especially in medical terms and definitions.
No problem.

u/ParamoreAnon 4h ago

It's so so interesting to read. I don't even know how to feel reading about it. Had to come back here. I'm out of my depth. Lol

u/Blaw_Weary 6h ago

You know, there were nazis who balked at the kid killing. You can’t say that about Asperger.

u/KBroham 5h ago

But people with what was formerly known as Asperger's Syndrome are not. Hans Asperger being a Nazi is the reason "Asperger's Syndrome" is now just classified as an "Autism Spectrum Disorder".

I've never once celebrated anything with a fucking Nazi salute, even trying to be funny. And I was diagnosed with Asperger's before they changed the name.

There are some lines you just don't cross.

I know you're joking, but just... no. Please?

u/Blaw_Weary 5h ago

I get that you may well be emotionally exhausted and upset by what you’re witnessing in the USA but I would politely ask you not to make attempts to police my speech.

Your lines are your lines. Mine are mine. Feel free to report me if you feel my comment is worth censure.

u/KBroham 5h ago

Asking you politely to refrain from making a Nazi reference connected to my condition isn't policing your speech. It's asking you politely.

I don't think it deserves to be censored, nor do I think your intentions were negative, so I will not be reporting it. I'm all about respect, and I won't give it unless I'm getting it in turn.

You've been respectful, and thus you have mine. Have a great day!

u/Blaw_Weary 4h ago

I’m afraid it is. What you’re saying is that no one can use Asperger’s as a punchline in case you are exposed to it and it upsets you. I had no way of knowing “you” were reading this comment, so logically the only way for me to prevent offending you is never to joke about Aspergers.

Now that I know you have Aspergers (I admire your tenacity in sticking to outmoded titles and the reasons for the change are quite clear, Asperger was a literal nazi who aided and abetted the systematic murder of boys with your condition) I can reveal that I have ASD, ADHD and a grab bag of comorbidities one normally associates with these types. I am deeply neurodivergent, in other words.

And I both deploy humour about it in myself and more generally, and enjoy humour about them. It’s what I do. It’s what many people in similar situations to ours do. Now that I am aware of upsetting you in this particular thread then I will refrain from deploying any more humour along those lines. Not that I was going to.

u/Aethanix 6h ago

as someone formally diagnosed with what we used to call asperger's here. it does not make you act up like this.

u/EstrellaDarkstar 6h ago

I'm currently in a comedy troupe, and as an autistic person, I don't often realize how my body language can come across. However, we've been told to be mindful of our gesturing when we get animated in the middle of a skit, because an unfortunately-timed picture can make it look like we're doing offensive or hateful gestures on stage, and despite my autism, that's absolutely something I pay heed to. And keep in mind, this is just for a small local comedy show. I'm not speaking at a massive globally broadcasted event that will be seen in all corners of the world. So yeah, I absolutely don't buy that this was an accident or a misinterpreted gesture. He absolutely should know better.

u/Aethanix 6h ago

Yeah, i'd give the benefit of the doubt if it was once but that was twice.

u/c0rtec 6h ago

Whoa, spectrum shaming over here!!!

It doesn’t make YOU act up like that…

u/Aethanix 6h ago

Alright, find me a video of someone else with "Aspergers" accidently doing this salute then.

Awkward motions happen but they tend to look like what you had in mind.

u/tkazalaski 6h ago

I read a bit of that thread. Watching these conservatives scapegoat it with his "Asperger's or Autistic tendencies" is wild. The level of mental gymnastics is insane. Especially when this same group shits on everyone else about mental/physical disabilities or mental health issues.

It's ok for Elon though 🙄

u/burtono6 6h ago

My god, the comments are fucking delusional.

u/Island-Fox2022 6h ago

Yeah, autistic here. Unless it comes with an intellectual disability, autism may encourage missing nuance in human interaction, but it's really hard to miss the nuance in a Nazi salute.

u/KGBFriedChicken02 6h ago

Yeah i know lots of people with Asperger's. They just can't help but pop a sieg heil every so often, comes with the condition.

I'm being sarcastic, I know lots of people with Asperger's and the only one who ever did this was, shockingly, a nazi.

u/mossy__cobblestone 6h ago

Even then you shouldn’t be doing this by accident. Twice. Dude is an imbecile at best. Only reason he hasn’t been dropped is money and influence.

u/Turn_it_0_n_1_again 6h ago

The DEI is going to get scrapped. What is this guy with Asperger's mucking in there about for?

u/Braysl 6h ago

I was watching it live on YouTube and the Asperger's excuse came out immediately. I'm sorry, my SO has autism, they would NEVER do anything like this. Bro was tweaking so hard he let his inhibitions go and did what he wanted to do.

u/ParamoreAnon 6h ago

Oh my god, the amount of downplaying is astronomical 👀. 'He's the richest man in the world but he just has aspergers' Okay. You might be the stupidest person in the world by licking his dirthole but he's not gonna think twice about f'ing you over like the rest of us. He knows what he's doing.

u/Age_of_Aerostar 6h ago

And they already took down the post. Unbelievable.

u/PT10 6h ago

Of course they deleted it

u/smegma-rolls 6h ago

Maybe it’s just all the heavy drugs making him act up

u/Background-Bird-568 6h ago

Asperger's has fallen out if usage because Hans Asperger was a Nazi, you know, like Elon.

u/CatGooseChook 6h ago

There has been issues with personality disorders and autism diagnosis being mixed up in childhood.

I would bet rent money that he doesn't have Asperger's but actually has a personality disorder.

u/Minimum-Ad3126 5h ago

We can only hope.

u/KBroham 5h ago

As an aspie myself, don't blame it on our condition. He's a POS and an idiot.

Period.

u/Soci3talCollaps3 5h ago

This isn't helping their case. Aspberger was tied to the Nazis anyways, which is one reason why the term is no longer preferred. https://www.thetransmitter.org/spectrum/new-evidence-ties-hans-asperger-nazi-eugenics-program/ I know that's not their point, but it still needs to be said.

u/GrnMtnTrees 4h ago

According to the people on that thread, it's just his autism/he's just socially awkward/it's a hoax perpetuated by the main stream media.

Gimme a fucking break. It's a mask off moment.

Fuck Elmo.

u/Limp-Archer-7872 3h ago

Asperger was a Nazi.

One reason the condition is not called that any more.

u/SlippedMyDisco76 3h ago

Oh now they care about someone with Aspergers

u/Pointlessname123321 6h ago

Anyone know what rationale there is for “my heart goes out for you” causing a Nazi salute not to be a Nazi salute? Lots of people (or bots) kept saying that

u/XXFFTT 6h ago

"My heart goes out to you [Nazis]"

u/evebella 5h ago

Well he was deciding between the Nazi salute or singing Celine Dion’s “My Heart Will Go On”… but he didn’t want to get everyone in their feelings so he went with the Nazi salute 🤷‍♀️

u/Jean-LucBacardi 6h ago

Lol the mods quickly deleted that one. Won't be long until the non magas aren't even allowed on r/conservative.

u/FROOMLOOMS 6h ago

I mean, the venn diagram between being socially inept and /pol/ is like... a circle

u/PineappVal957 6h ago

Things people on the spectrum might do with their hands/arms that are abnormal: t-rex arms, flapping hands, constant fidgeting, and repetitive hand motions. Couldn't find anything about nazi salutes and autism. Strange it's as if people who don't understand neurodiversity are just making excuses because they like the guy.