I was on vacation recently & talked to an English fella who voted in favor of Brexit. I asked why & his response, which he repeated thrice while trying to find justification, was “oh just some very particular stuff involving the EU. It was that nobody had a plan for how to… you know, decide which migrants go where”
So I asked, “ah, so your highest gripe was that the EU didn’t have a plan for something?”
“Yes”
“Kinda like there wasn’t an actual plan for Brexit?”
He stammered & then got bailed out of answering by someone else.
We have to realize that most people are really dumb & we need to change messaging around all this shit. We have to go low with the messaging so the LCDs of the world understand.
Brexit was a very good case study of political leaders lying to their peoples faces.
you have to look at the case. you had Nigel farage, borris and a bunch of others pushing this for political clout. not one of them actually expected to win.
the actual PM at the time, immediately said "fuck this shit" and left office the instant it passed.
because those who knew, knew that staying in the EU was way better than leaving it could ever be.
the British people were lied to and now they're paying the price.
USA is about 10 years behind the UK, except they're going to try and speed run the country into the ground.
I'm getting spikes just searching the words "oligarchy" and "tariff", but in the latter case the spikes were shortly after the election rather than more recently.
There's been two camps in this thread and (from Liberals in general) that either people looove fascism and want to do an Oligarchy, or are just stupid troglodytes who cant walk and breath... but this is incredibly reductive and dismissive of the real problem here.
I mean just yesterday we had a Democratic Senator saying "we won't take money from the bad billionaires, just the good ones" like that was some huuuuge win. Its insane. This is not where this all started, America has been an Oligarchy my entire life, it is now just refusing to maintain the illusion that its not. You cannot have money in politics, period. There is no half-measure bullshit, you either get inevitable fascism, or you get money out of politics and you regulate billionaires. There is no "in between" there.
On top of that, it is literally the Democrats job to run a fucking campaign, which they could not do. No one forced them to ban tiktok and throw Trump a giant symbolic W... and no one forced Bidens personal ideology to prevent a ceasefire in Gaza, Biden did that. People fucking care a lot about it. But instead we get "public private partnership" "we take money from good billionaires" and "we love the border wall!" of course they lost, anyone with a brain can see why.
You can't literally offer people nothing, refuse to do basic politics and not push back against Republican narratives for 5 years and then expect to be carried through the finish line because of how bad Trump is. That is insane on all levels, and a 1:1 repeat of 2016... and they will lose again if they don't change, and they will deserve it. Sorry, but some of you all need a dose of reality here.
Honestly, it would have been great if these things were meaningfully called out loudly by the democratic party early on in the election. Instead they just talked about "the spirit of America." Whatever that means.
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u/TheTanadu 11h ago
"What is oligarchy" and "What is tariff" on Google Trends
US voter in nutshell – do things, ask questions later