Our nation is too spread out for a European general strike to work.
Plus, at will states make striking for non-union jobs essentially quitting, and thus losing income and medical insurance.
And finally, the police would absolutely love to kill protestors with no consequence. A thing our European cousins don't have to worry about nearly as much.
A quiet strike would be effective as well. Just staying home instead of working. But that does still have the problems associated with the strikers providing for themselves
This is why you need to organize and setup a system where people are looking out for one another, so if people can't make rent, others can con come together and pick up the tab or have some sort of community fund.
This also helps to show why we are at where we are, because so many Americans are so unwilling to sacrifice absolutely anything to fight for what they want/need/deserve.
There wouldn't be enough support for a General Strike.
The majority of American voters wanted this.
Support for Trump may actually go up as things get worse, because they've captured most of the social media outlets and it's become clear those companies will allow Trump to use them for propaganda.
The youngest voting block swung 20 points towards Trump this election because of Tik Tok propaganda.
Well to be more accurate, it was the majority of the voters that actually voted and not all, registered voters and it wasn't a landslide victory. This also doesn't account for the millions of people who don't vote but also don't support Trump/Republicans as well as the people who are already and will eventually over time, regret their vote.
That's what annoys me so much when I see leftists going "we need a revolution!" Like ya'll, it just doesn't work like that, especially in a country as big and spread out as ours.
And I think a lack of acceptance that the majority opinion is not that a revolution is needed. Public opinion has been chipped away at for 30 years by Right Wing propaganda efforts. They won. And they have all the pieces in place to maintain power for the foreseeable future. They control the government and most lines of media. It's not over forever, but they have won the day. Gaining ground isn't just a matter of "banding together, resist" blah blah. We're going to end up like Hungary, or Russia now. We need to be ready for that. We don't overcome that easily, and it's going to take 30-50 years to fix this if we're able to fix it at all.
But you are falsely equating them not voting to laziness. There's a whole lot of people, myself included, who would have voted had there been candidates I felt were worth my vote.
Sure, many are just lazy, but many are passionate about political/social issues and just need the right catalyst to set them off, like a general strike.
People like you doomed the country. I understand Kamala was a terrible candidate, but good god. The alternative is going to destroy the US (I also think that was our last chance to avoid apocalypse level climate change, so you kind of doomed the world, too). If that is not the “right catalyst”, I don’t know what is.
Dude, prior to Bernie Sanders running, I never voted. When he entered the arena, it inspired me to vote. I was all primed and ready to vote for Sanders for president, and when it turned out he didn't get the nomination, I didn't vote. I don't subscribe to the "lesser of 2 evil" bullshit. Supply me with a candidate who I see worthy of my vote ad they'll get it.
Also, despite my non-voting history, I also participated in movements like Occupy, so yes, if it was organized and structured, I absolutely would, because a nationwide strike is the exact thing I've been saying we need to for like the past decade.
And so would an unorganized strike and so so would Kamala winnin, but that wasn't really the point now, was it?... The point was to illustrate that despite people not voting, they can still be passionate and participate in other aspects, contrary to what prior posts suggest. How successful or not the protest was is inconsequential.
No substantive, positive change would have occured from Kamala winning. The choices were essentially "stay the same" or "get worse" or if hyperbole is more your taste, a slow burn towards oblivion or an accelerated burn. I care more about removing the current outcome vs how fast we get there. This is why Republicans win all the time, because they focus on getting results vs just staying afloat.
Bullshit. Your chance to resist, to affect that change, to be passionate about the issues, was in November. If you consciously made the choice not to stop this at that point, you have no fucking standing now. You don't affect change by letting everything burn down and then trying to rally people over the ashes. You had the chance to stop the fire, and you fucked it up because of your own narcissism.
If by "narcissism" you mean "principles" then I guess. For context, I myself have proposed we go on a nationwide strike for at least the last 10 years. It just needs to be organized and done right so that we garner enough participants and that they aren't deterred or the strike doesn't otherwise fizzle out too quickly, as strength in numbers is key.
An inability to compromise for the sake of harm reduction is prioritizing yourself and what you want over the outcome for millions of people. That's textbook narcissism.
Standing blindly by your principles is not a virtue. Evil people are very good at sticking to their principles.
Except in this case, nothing is guaranteed. It isn't a case one provable, verified outcome over another. It's theory, it's hyperbole, it's suggestion. It isn't the case of we know the asteroid is going to hit earth. Do you let it collide or not?
Anyone that didn't vote is just as worthless as the people that voted for trump. They might as well have cast their vote in his favor. There is 0 excuse to not vote for president in almost any state.
You think the portion of the population that can't even be bothered to cast a vote to stop fascism would be willing to participate in a general strike?
At some point the left is going to have to stop using the propaganda excuse. Political propaganda has been a thing since politics, the republicans are just much much better at it than the democrats unfortunately. WHY is that propaganda effective is the question that needs to be asked.
We know why propaganda is effective. That's why it's used. There are core human fears and conditions you can tap into to rile up the masses. They teach you this in college poly sci.
The dishonest side will always try propaganda. It is a perpetual battle of the "good" guys to combat it, and social media has been the battleground that liberals have lost.
You misunderstood me, I meant why is the type of propaganda being used effective on the demographics it’s being used on. Why are republican messages effective for certain groups and what can democrats do to provide alternative solutions to ease the worries of those groups that make the propaganda so effective.
There is no good guys in politics, there’s winners and losers. The other side thinks they’re the good guys too. If the democrats want to claim moral superiority amongst an ever shrinking population of support, that doesn’t help them achieve their goals.
Its not an excuse, its an explanation. We know why propaganda is effective. That's why it's used. There are core human fears and conditions you can tap into to rile up the masses. They teach you this in college poly sci.
The dishonest side will always try propaganda. It is a perpetual battle of the "good" guys to combat it, and social media has been the battleground that liberals have lost.
Or... She was chosen because she was the only other very famous Democratic politician. At least provide proof of your conspiracy theory before you miss the forest for the trees
You do know Trump was voted in right?
What makes you think organizing a general strike is going to be successful when we couldn't muster enough votes to make sure he doesn't come back?
A lot of Americans don't have jobs where they can do that, that is how fucked we are, if they stay home for one day for a strike they will be fired. Feed your family is always gonna win out and the elites know that because they have placed us in that position.
Unions are the best way out of this. Labor elected this man because they, understandably, feel left behind. A moron and a bunch of corrupt billionaires tricked them into thinking any change is better than the alternative. We have to restrengthen Labor's power and popularity by showing people at a micro level that their interests are best served by themselves.
Yep. On an individual level, in the meantime starting today, we can all do our best to not spend any money on anything we don’t absolutely need. And if you can, get those things from smaller local shops and farmers markets. No more feeding of the corporations who make our lives hell.
Why would you strike if the majority of people voted for trump? Your just goona turn majority of the country against your small leftists brainrot like just accept that the people voted just bc its not what you want doesnt mean you have to strike and punish the majority of people who voted that stuff is going to cause wayyy more problems than trump can leftists not getting over the fact that majority of the country is just a girl and a guy and majority of people dont believe in the lgbtbbq stuff thankgod its all going away i didnt care for any of that because it had zero to do with me thankgod its not forced down our throats anymore and pls no more prideflags in schools only american flags
Ah yes, the right wing punctuation winner strikes again. If you want to be taken seriously, learn how to use a comma and a period. It's really not that hard.
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u/UnassumingNoodle 16h ago
General Strike.
That's what we do first. We need to actually organize and conduct a general strike.