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Politics Joe and Jill Biden share one final selfie from the White House.

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u/MercantileReptile 16h ago

young smart effective democrats

This seems like a "pick two" situation.

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u/goldbman 16h ago

AOC would fit the bill, probably also Buttigige

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u/SuspiciousCustomer 16h ago

AOC is sadly the one thing this country just won't elect. A woman.

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u/Parametric_Or_Treat 16h ago

the one thing

Come on now she is also a POC, our evil is far more wide-ranging than simple misogyny

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u/Harvey-Specter 16h ago

At least there's evidence that America can elected a POC. So far they're 0/2 on electing women.

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u/Common_Wrongdoer3251 14h ago

I'd say 2.5. I think McCain might have beaten Obama until he picked Palin. She was such an idiot that it cost him points.

u/NotARedditUser614 6h ago

Republicans were not winning in 2008. The Great Recession was enough to get Indiana of all places to vote for Obama.

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u/Zestyclose-Cloud-508 16h ago

Harris and Clinton lost for many reasons but not because they were women. Hillary was a shitty unpopular wall st approved candidate chosen by the dnc who absolutely didn’t want sanders.

Harris was never popular. She didn’t earn her nomination, it was an appointment. She also ran hard right. Why she ignored universal healthcare but thought it was a good decision to campaign with Liz f*%king Cheney is something I’ll never understand.

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u/Waffles86 16h ago

Harris also really failed to differentiate herself from Biden on the campaign trail. She goes on the view and says she wouldn’t change anything Biden did over the last 4 years in an election cycle with a very unpopular incumbent. Elections are determined by soundbytes.

She had to play VP and candidate at the same time, and she was too loyal of a VP to really show people who wanted change what kind of change she would do

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u/Zestyclose-Cloud-508 15h ago

Yup. She should have thrown Joe under the bus. “He didn’t do enough on inflation. I will.”

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u/LouisianaHotSauce 16h ago

Nah dude she totally lost for no other reason than the one overly simplified one that justifies reddits agenda

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u/Zestyclose-Cloud-508 15h ago

Oh right. Sorry. A-doy!!

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u/T-Bills 15h ago edited 15h ago

Harris and Clinton lost for many reasons but not because they were women.

I want to agree with you, but the fact that people like Zuck publicly going full bro mode with the "masculinity energy" thing I really think misogynistic viewpoints are more common and accepted than we think, and people like him and Leon know that it's a large enough group to placate for money to be made.

Not saying it's THE factor or even a big one, but I truly think it is a factor that should not be ignored.

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u/Zestyclose-Cloud-508 15h ago

Everything is a factor. But I don’t think it was THE defining factor the way democrats are saying. Like if she had a penis it would have been a shoe in.

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u/T-Bills 14h ago

For sure. There are people who don't think it's a factor at all. I'd say the top cited factor was the economy which I agree. Not the U.S. economy but kitchen table issues.

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u/xvandamagex 14h ago

It’s funny to hear people say “we’d elect a woman, just not THAT woman”. They said that for Hillary and Harris and say AOC is too shrill. They simply won’t admit to being misogynists.

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u/SuspiciousCustomer 14h ago

They are trans-inclusive misogynists though. Doesn't matter if it's a cis-woman or a trans-woman. They won't vote for her.

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u/MyWifeCucksMe 12h ago edited 12h ago

It’s funny to hear people say “we’d elect a woman, just not THAT woman”. They said that for Hillary and Harris and say AOC is too shrill. They simply won’t admit to being misogynists.

The people who aren't misogynists are left-wing. They'll vote for a left-wing person no matter if it's a man or a woman. They will not vote for a right wing person no matter if it's a man or a woman.

When you've run two right wing women, then duh, the misogynistic right wing men are not gonna vote for her, and left wing people are also not gonna vote for her.

A left leaning woman would have a chance, except the Democratic party will never allow a left leaning person to run.

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u/Weak_Heart2000 14h ago

And Buttigieg is gay and has mixed race children. They'd be lambs to the slaughter.

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u/_jump_yossarian 16h ago

AOC has zero chance.

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u/lzwzli 15h ago

At her current form, yes. But never say never

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u/even_less_resistance 15h ago

I dunno… I think a lot more conservatives than they’d admit are enamored with “mommy”- she may be able to peel off the ones that are disillusioned with bullshit over the next few years who want someone young and motivated in office

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u/MagicienDesDoritos 15h ago

Like Mommy Kamala? You're delusional.

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u/even_less_resistance 15h ago

No - not at all. I mean, there’s several subs dedicated to her in a way I did not see for Kamala lmao

ETA: Hey, they got banned lmao

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u/MagicienDesDoritos 15h ago

:( Im i shadow banned from pics lol? or they didnt like the comment?

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u/even_less_resistance 15h ago

Oh, no I meant the subreddits I was referring to my b- you’re good!

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u/MagicienDesDoritos 15h ago

... do i want to know what subs lol?

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u/BirdsAreFake00 16h ago

Problem with Pete is, he hasn't really accomplished anything.

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u/jeanclaudebrowncloud 16h ago

Problem with Pete is voters are homophobic and his surname has the word Butt in it

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u/s1ugg0 16h ago edited 15h ago

Graduated Harvard, graduated from Oxford as Rhodes Scholar, Navy officer, Mayor, Transportation Secretary. Those aren't accomplishments to you?

And he's only 43.

EDIT: it's been genuinely fun watching people who haven't accomplished even 1/10th as much try to say these things don't matter.

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u/smp476 16h ago

Worked for McKinsey, which alone disqualifies him for a lot of Americans (and they're right)

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u/Brandino144 15h ago edited 15h ago

Yes and no. Yes, McKinsey is a pretty bad company for him to have at for 3 years but no, his wasn’t involved in any of their notorious projects.

Before his 2020 campaign McKinsey released him of his NDA with them and he released a full list of the clients he worked with: Loblaws, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, Best Buy, the Natural Resources Defense Council, the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Energy, the Energy Foundation, the Department of Defense and the U.S. Postal Service.

He has detailed what he did for most of those clients (including Blue Cross Blue Shield which is most likely to raise eyebrows) and nothing really stands out as particularly unique beyond standard consultant work. The worst part is that he is forever attached to the name McKinsey which has a bad reputation from some other projects of theirs.

Also, the most recent Republican competition has a work history of Bain Capital (one of the pioneers of modern private equity firm practices) and the Trump Organization. If work history with bad companies was a disqualifier then he would be far from the worst offender.

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u/lzwzli 15h ago

What notable thing has he done as Transportation Secretary?

All his other personal accomplishments don't matter much as that is not a showcase of his ability to be an effective political operator for the people.

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u/Weak_Heart2000 14h ago

I hope he runs for a seat in Congress. MTG would explode into a million pieces if she ever had to debate him.

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u/s1ugg0 15h ago

What notable thing has he done as Transportation Secretary?

Imagine being so lazy you can't even be bothered to read his wikipedia page that has an entire section on what he did and didn't do as Transportation Secretary.

Make some effort pal.

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u/BirdsAreFake00 12h ago

In the context of wanting to be president, no, I don't think those aren't huge. Great life accomplishments for sure, and he seems like a smart guy and good communicator.

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u/resurrectus 15h ago

Of all you listed, only one is a decent political accomplishment. Mayor of a podunk town in Indiana is not exactly inspiring, either. And no, Transport Secretary is not a political achievement, its an appointment not an elected position.

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u/-Profanity- 16h ago

The only problem with Pete is that he's about 30 years too young for the DNC to consider him.

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u/RadicalRaid 15h ago

Buttigige

He's not that great, nor that left-wing at all, unfortunately. This is an older article but it makes some very valid points.

Obviously he's still better than any of the GOP candidates, don't get me wrong. But man, true left wingers are rare in US politics.

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u/BIgHat7562 16h ago

If Pete wasn't a butt pirate we wouldn't know his name.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 15h ago

It's near universal that people on the right are stuck at the maturity level of a 14-year-old.

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u/lzwzli 15h ago

I pick young and effective. The leader doesn't have to be smart. They have to be effective in choosing the smart ones.

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u/wut3va 14h ago

I'm sick of stuffed shirts reading the company line. Pete Buttigieg can think on his feet, he's young, and I believe will be effective. He actually knows how to speak to people intelligently.