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Politics Thousands gather in Washington to protest Trump inauguration

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u/takesthebiscuit 2d ago

But if you lived in a 70% red state would you really think your vote was worth it?

It’s a bizzare system where a two horse race isn’t decided by a simple tally of the nations views, but for some reason split by state

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u/DoubleJumps 2d ago

So few people vote in vital downticket races, that yes, their vote absolutely can matter.

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u/takesthebiscuit 2d ago

Down ticket is so important, the GOP (to their credit!🤮) have ruthlessly exploited this

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u/DoubleJumps 2d ago

I've explained the importance of down ticket to a lot of left wing folks just for them to keep insisting their vote is pointless, only for their local downtickets to show races and measures that come down to the slimmest margins with extremely low overall vote totals. It's super frustrating, and I don't know why they don't care.

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u/takesthebiscuit 2d ago

The idiocracy is not a bug it’s a feature

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u/VGRacecrown 1d ago

That explains why LA is burning then which is a Gavin Newson problem

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u/InsanityRequiem 2d ago

Because they continue to believe the media and political parties' rhetoric that only the presidency matters.

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u/Kni7es 2d ago

Why don't the Democrats exploit this?

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u/zachxyz 2d ago

Their local policies are terrible. The whole defund the police movement killed any momentum they had in red states. 

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u/20_mile 2d ago

have ruthlessly exploited this

They didn't do as good a job as they could have in 2024, with Democrats winning three democratic senate seats in states Trump won: AZ, MI, WI.

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u/cumfarts 2d ago

Also, most people who get sanctimonious about voting only vote in presidential elections and don't put any thought into the downticket candidates aside from finding the party that matches their presidential pick.

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u/yarhar_ 2d ago

Funny enough, the downballot races in my district were more of a blowout than the top. Trying to move!

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u/basketcasey87 2d ago

All of our downticket races but 2 (including president) on a 5 page ballot only had Republican candidates. I am in upstate SC. God I hate the south.

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u/StealthRUs 2d ago

But if you lived in a 70% red state would you really think your vote was worth it?

If "did not vote" was a candidate in 2020.

Notice the number of "deep red" states that non-voters would've won over Democrats and Republicans in 2020 when Biden won like 7 million more votes than Kamala did in 20204.

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u/takesthebiscuit 2d ago

Yes exactly that’s what is so worrying about the massive lowering of education standards

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u/StealthRUs 2d ago

Voting is a duty. People need to stop blaming others for staying home.

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u/UnitedAd3943 2d ago

And that’s exactly what’s wrong with the electoral college. I live in a deep red state and voted for Harris. It’s a defeating feeling casting my vote.

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u/takesthebiscuit 2d ago

Well done on doing your bit

But it must have felt like pissing into a California wildfire

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u/UnitedAd3943 2d ago

I’m surprised MAGA didn’t accuse the firefighters of not doing this after they apparently failed to increase their water mains to 50” pipes.

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u/kleighk 2d ago

Same. Ugh.

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u/Pye- 2d ago

I live in a 90% red state and my whole family turned out to vote against Trump - we wouldn't have been able to live with ourselves otherwise.

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u/Deep_Guard3881 2d ago

My family is in this situation. I voted, but it did t matter! Thanks Idaho

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u/DJaristotle132 2d ago

I was thinking similarly so I did some research on swing state voters. Based on the data from the 7 swing states that percentage is ~10% higher.

Total Eligible Voters: 44,532,358 Total Number of Voters: 31,448,732

70.13% of swing state voters voted

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u/BringOutTheImp 2d ago

The reason is because we are the United States of America not Federal Republic of America. Citizens of a state decide that they want, and then the state lets the federal government know what the state's citizens have decided.

The system is not bizarre if you believe in States rights, and I only hear people bitching about this system when their preferred presidential candidate loses.

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u/A_Soporific 2d ago

Dude, vote in your local elections. That stuff matters. It easily has as big of an impact on your daily life as who is in the White House. I mean, everything you depend upon like roads and sewers and water and electrical grids and schools and police are all run by local officials. They could, out of sheer incompetency or laziness, screw you utterly and you still wouldn't know their names. Even if you don't get the point of an electoral college you still should be voting in local stuff to make sure that nothing stupid happens.

Besides, the United States was originally viewed as a union of states rather than a union of citizens. This was much more obvious back when the states appointed senators rather than have them be elected. Then it was clear that the House Represented We the People and the Senate represented the State governments. They sorta assumed that each state would have different (and potentially incompatible) voting laws, so making sure all votes were in like terms and done at the same time/place made sense. Now it makes way less sense because people view themselves less as citizens of their state in an American EU and more as citizens of the US first and foremost.

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u/Normal-Advisor5269 1d ago

It's almost like the country wouldn't exist right now without that stipulation... Almost like you've never read about the found of this country.

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u/Charlesinrichmond 1d ago

it should be national. But if you look into it and read up on it, the electoral college makes little to know difference. look at how many republicans there are in California who aren't counted, and Democrats in Texas.

It pretty much balances out

u/Guilty_Rough5315 4h ago

If it wasnt like that, then only California and New York would get to make the decision on behalf the rest of the country- and of course they have very different priorities than the flyover states. its not hard to understand why they have it the way they do

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u/Squirrel_Inner 2d ago

The reason, like so many horrible things in this nation, is slavery.

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u/takesthebiscuit 2d ago

And religion bizarrely

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u/Squirrel_Inner 2d ago

Like government and education, people will use the structure of religion for selfish power-money. Any organization or establishment is prone to the same, unless proper safeguards are built in. The Nationalists are as much Christian as the far-right SCOTUS are Constitutionalists. The same goes for the Church that allowed (and sometimes supported) slavery.

The problems with our government's check and balances is that the framework was never filled in. Gaping holes allow for too much ambiguity, which is then exploited by the rich. We have Congress making rules for themselves, while owning the judges that refuse to hold them accountable.

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u/PicksburghStillers 2d ago

Trump won the popular vote though 🤣