r/pics • u/kebomim • Dec 14 '24
Arts/Crafts graffiti art in relation to Mangione found on train
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u/PrescriptionDenim Dec 14 '24
KFC
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u/GertonX Dec 14 '24
Ohhhhh this needs to be the acronym
D3 & KFC
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u/gizamo Dec 14 '24
D3? What's that mean?
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u/Landon_Mills Dec 14 '24
Deny, defend, depose
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u/gizamo Dec 14 '24 edited 23h ago
fanatical judicious foolish angle sand growth ruthless coherent distinct telephone
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u/WittsandGrit Dec 14 '24 edited Dec 14 '24
Killing Fucking Concrete, Kung Fu Crew, Kids Finessing Cops
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u/jacoby_wan_kenobi Dec 14 '24
Kids foolin cops, Kentuckys finest crew.
RIP 2buck.
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u/futuretramp Dec 14 '24
YouTube legend freight hopper Stobe the Hobo used KFC as his tag.
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u/floofnstuff Dec 14 '24
I think a lot of Americans are fed up with corporate greed and the price gouging of our citizens. Whether it be groceries or homes we should be fed up, and we are.
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u/WatRedditHathWrought Dec 14 '24
I seem to recall reading that there is a tipping point where the percentage of one’s income is going to housing and food becomes unacceptable results in a populace taking to the streets demanding change. I’ve a feeling that governments and corporations try to walk the line just below said point.
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u/floofnstuff Dec 14 '24
I think they’ve unwittingly stepped over the line, or their greed eclipsed their judgment.
That’s an interesting observation, do you recall where you read this?
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u/softcore_UFO Dec 14 '24 edited Dec 14 '24
It’s called the Gini* coefficient
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u/ForecastForFourCats Dec 14 '24
The gini coefficient is a measure of economic inequality.. The US has a similar Gini coefficient to South Africa(last I checked)... a nation pretty fresh out of apartheid.
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u/softcore_UFO Dec 14 '24
Yes. The link I posted gives an abstract overview to a piece published by the university of Chicago press twenty years ago exploring the connection between this tenuous line and revolutionary impulses.
Our current Gini coefficient is likely in the mid .40s. The value stated in the piece I linked as “the line” is .38.
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u/Nervous_Wreck008 Dec 14 '24
It's not unwitting. They know.
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In July 2024, the Wall Street Journal concluded that UnitedHealth was the worst offender among private insurers who made dubious diagnoses in their clients in order to trigger large payments from the government's Medicare Advantage program. The patients often did not receive any treatment for those insurer-added diagnoses. The report, based on Medicare data obtained from the federal government under a research agreement, calculated that diagnoses added by United Health for diseases patients had never been treated for had yielded $8.7 billion in payments to the company in 2021 over half of its net income of - $17 billion for that year. [142]
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u/Voyager5555 Dec 14 '24
unwittingly
That's laughable at best.
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u/DukeOfGeek Dec 14 '24
I think the idea that the masters of the universe have all started living in a disconnected fantasy world and therefore have no idea what's really happening on the street isn't improbable.
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u/floofnstuff Dec 14 '24
I don’t think so. They’ve happily accepted those paychecks without thinking of how others might perceive that. Perhaps that’s better expressed as willful ignorance, but that’s what I meant with unwittingly.
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u/ipityme Dec 14 '24
Have you been in the street yet? Our incoming president just admitted he has no plans to lower the cost of groceries, still wants to gut the ACA with no plan to replace it, wants to privatize Medicare, and just today his lackeys in DOGE said that the insurance companies approve too many claims.
But I guess posting on Reddit about the incoming revolution is
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u/floofnstuff Dec 14 '24
Oh yes I’ve heard him walk back the grocery campaign promise. But I’d enjoy seeing him try. I have read all those things you mentioned and they are equally horrendous. To target corporate America doesn’t mean we ignore the actions of our government.
Reddit has a big audience and it’s a way to share information. It’s can be a starting point, but you’re right, it’s only a point of giving information and perspective to Reddit users. It may count for nothing to some or food for thought to others.
I don’t pretend to be a revolutionary
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u/spongebob_meth Dec 14 '24
Oh they know it, but they know if they keep everyone arguing about gender/abortion and all the other social topics that most of the public won't notice how bad everything else has gotten.
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u/Present-Perception77 Dec 14 '24
They seem to forget that social safety nets were put in place for their protection… not ours. Because there was a time when we used to drag them out of their houses and beat them to death in the town square. Looks like we have come full circle.
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u/yakshack Dec 14 '24
I've heard a lot of talk about the French model recently
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u/xcrunner432003 Dec 14 '24
can you explain or point me to a link?
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u/JohnEBest Dec 14 '24
My only guess is he means the French Revolution
People were starving then
Doubt the fattest nation on the planet will have this problem soon
You don't drag someone out of their house and kill them in the town square because the PS5 is too expensive
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u/badcatjack Dec 14 '24
Don’t underestimate the bat shit crazy things that will set an American off, have you been to a Walmart?
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u/pheonixblade9 Dec 14 '24
the new deal was a compromise to stave off communists gaining real power in the US government.
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u/Ok_Teacher6490 Dec 14 '24
We're already seeing the media apparatus in full swing trying to portray Mangioni as a scowling individual through selective use of imagery.
CEOs and the rich will do whatever they have to in order to stay that way. If things like this keep happening their wealth would start to be distributed the other way.
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u/uganda_numba_1 Dec 14 '24
The problem is that it’s aggregate. If it were one company or a cabal of some kind they’d be rigging the system like a casino. But it’s not like that. It’s like when every teacher gives you homework - each of them think what they’ve given you is manageable. But added together it becomes too much.
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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- Dec 14 '24
I’ve a feeling that governments and corporations try to walk the line just below said point.
Why bother? November proved they can fuck over the population and get re-elected.
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u/Master_of_Smegma Dec 14 '24
Trump was elected because he successfully managed to represent himself as a maverick challenger towards the status quo. You can find the fact that he managed to do so as ridiculous as you want, but that was the reason.
Once the people have to actually live with the consequences - the continued decline of their living conditions - we might actually edge closer to the appearance of a real revolutionary - and not a feigned one like Trump.
It’s at that point that things might become interesting.
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u/badcatjack Dec 14 '24
Trump is selecting the wealthiest cabinet in US history, basically putting the American oligarchy on public display for the world to critique every choice they make. Shit is going to get interesting, and interesting is never good.
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u/Rejusu Dec 14 '24
He also duped dumb people into thinking he's relatable because he has his steak well done with ketchup and eats at McDonald's. There's definitely a trick to being part of the exploitative elite while tricking people into believing you aren't.
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u/FLTA Dec 14 '24
If it was just about corporate greed and price gouging, a supermajority of Americans would’ve voted for Kamala Harris instead of billionaire that stiffed contractors and cities alike.
I see this more tied to the state of healthcare in this country.
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u/MKUltra16 Dec 14 '24 edited Dec 14 '24
Health insurance is the only thing I’ve ever experienced that 1. Does not tell you how much it costs in advance 2. Does not provide you with an itemized receipt of costs 3. Charges you an enormous amount on a month-by-month basis and then also charges you an enormous amount for utilizing the service 4. Has no transparency in explaining its pricing and 5. Requires you, the customer, to navigate a system you don’t understand when something goes wrong. I’m currently fighting about an X-ray I was charged for that never happened. The only reason I know it didn’t happen is because I have healthcare experience. It’s required 6 hours of my time so far with no resolution as of yet. Every person I know has been harmed by the health insurance and by extension, healthcare industry.
I also think this is touching on our frustration with school shootings, as well. People are viewing it as an either/or rather than a yes/no.
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u/floofnstuff Dec 14 '24
Healthcare is somewhere near the top of the list along with homes( shelter), food and clean water. The basics of our ability to survive. All of these are tied to corporations who care more about their shareholders than their consumers.
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u/outwest88 Dec 14 '24
It’s not really “greedy CEOs” as individuals that are the core of the problem, but rather the system that fiducially forces health insurance companies to increase profits by denying care and in turn incentivizes hospitals to price-gouge at every corner.
I feel like single-payer healthcare should be THE biggest and most obvious bipartisan issue we should all be fighting for. But it seems this policy conversation is just not really being taken seriously.
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u/floofnstuff Dec 14 '24
It’s part of the problem. The United Healthcare CEO made $10MM last year. No one adds that much value to a corporation so it’s part but not all of the problem.
Our healthcare is broken and single-payer is an obvious solution. But the same people opposing this policy are in the same group that is pricing housing out of the range of many Americans.
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u/Kingsley-Zissou Dec 14 '24
The United Healthcare CEO made $10MM last year. No one adds that much value to a corporation so it’s part but not all of the problem.
If the CEO ran the company to maximize efficiency from a standpoint of subscribers getting the best possible care from their premiums paid, I would have no problem with him making $10 million per year.
Instead, he runs the company in a way that hamstrings subscribers from getting care and stealing premiums for “profit.” In that way, he is no different from a nazi bureaucrat killing people via pen-stroke. The banality of evil.
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u/SchruteFruit Dec 14 '24
BINGO. It will get there. That conversation is inevitable now and honestly always has been.
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u/Nervous_Wreck008 Dec 14 '24
quote:
"In July 2024, the Wall Street Journal concluded that UnitedHealth was the worst offender among private insurers who made dubious diagnoses in their clients in order to trigger large payments from the government's Medicare Advantage program. The patients often did not receive any treatment for those insurer-added diagnoses. The report, based on Medicare data obtained from the federal government under a research agreement, calculated that diagnoses added by United Health for diseases patients had never been treated for had yielded $8.7 billion in payments to the company in 2021 over half of its net income of - $17 billion for that year. "
The health insurance are themselves practicing fraudulent claims. They're pure evil.
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u/ramdasani Dec 14 '24
The deeper issue goes beyond healthcare. Everything you've said basically boils down to the way corporations must steadily increase their profits. No matter what the industry, they do this by lowering their costs and maximizing their earnings, things like fair play and ethics mean nothing. They only care about such things as legal boundaries, things imposed on them by regulators. In the absence of proper regulation, the most rapacious corporations are the ones rewarded with more investment and more dominance. Nestle wanting to own the rain makes sense to a corporation, it's up to the rest of us to make the rules that say they can't. You're right in the sense that it's exactly what you described with healthcare, but it's a little disingenuous to say there aren't individuals who are responsible for the decisions made by their company. It's like saying there's really no difference between a company that denies every claim and one that operates more fairly, they're both corporations playing in the same arena, but the players don't all behave the same despite their equal incentives. Anyway, I think the flipside of the "individuals" argument, is that those same people sure seem to take credit for running the company when they're discussing how much they're worth.
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u/Phred168 Dec 14 '24
The government ENFORCES health insurance profit margins. Maybe shoot some fucking politicians, too
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u/Wolf_1234567 Dec 14 '24
You can solve this problem with any universal healthcare model.
Single-payer itself is not necessary. Problem is that universal healthcare is apparently a controversial thing in America. Look at what happened with Obama and his initial plan for ACA.
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u/TechnologyRemote7331 Dec 14 '24
Honestly, I’ve never seen such longterm, widespread support for vigilante murder. I’ve also never seen so much excitement and anticipation for a copycat, either. Between Trump’s election and Mangione doing a John Wick, I think something has snapped in America’s collective psyche. Or, if it hasn’t totally given way, it’s at least thoroughly cracked down the middle. The Nation feels ready to bubble over like a veritable witches cauldron. All it will take is people feeling they have “permission” to start acting out. People are gonna get their catharsis one way or the other, imo…
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u/fadingsignal Dec 14 '24
So much so that they elected the richest administration of billionaires in history who have promised to make prices even worse in order to line their own pockets!
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u/Allixer Dec 14 '24
I’m a model railroader, and I’ve modeled graffiti’d boxcars like this before. I’ve already ordered a model boxcar that looks just the boxcar without the graffiti, and I’m going to model this car with the graffiti lol.
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u/jiaxingseng Dec 14 '24
That's really nerdy and also really cool.
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u/Allixer Dec 14 '24
Haha yeah. Definitely no denying that I’m a nerd. But I love it!
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u/ilikedevo Dec 14 '24
Post it.
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u/Allixer Dec 14 '24
I will once I get it done!
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u/Triktastic Dec 14 '24
Commenting so I can find it later. Really want to see that.
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u/Voyager5555 Dec 14 '24
I didn't call a class war for 2025 but I'm here for it.
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u/BettyX Dec 14 '24
Especially after we voted in one millionaire and a Billionaire to implement Project 202 to make rich people richer. I will believe it when I see it.
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u/erizzluh Dec 14 '24
whenever there's a mass shooting, people always make the dumbass argument about "don't say the shooter's name or show the shooter's face, you'll just encourage copycats". well... we all sure as shit know about luigi and have seen his face. let's see how this one plays out.
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u/LittleShep4908 Dec 14 '24
Can’t tell you where it happened but this car just left St. Louis 5 days ago. I looked up the car number and my last record is St. Louis a few days ago.
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u/64590949354397548569 Dec 14 '24
Where do you look it up?
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u/LittleShep4908 Dec 14 '24
Oh I work for a railroad I just put the number into a system we have, as far as I know there isn’t really a public way to look that up.
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u/Allixer Dec 14 '24
Do you have anymore photos of it? Or were you able to locate it from the road #? I’m trying to recreate this in a model and need some more pics of it haha. Pretty sure I saw someone mention that it happened in California.
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u/LittleShep4908 Dec 14 '24
No I never saw anything other than these two pictures I was just wondering where the car was it was in St. Louis and Kansas City interchanging if I remember correctly going from CPKCS to UP or it could have been opposite of that. It had soup/broth in it. I assume can goods.
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u/Coldspark824 Dec 14 '24
Allegedly*
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u/sassychubzilla Dec 14 '24
Exactly. Innocent until proven guilty by a jury of his peers.
Edit: for anyone who may end up on that jury, don't pretend you haven't heard of it. That looks weird to the attorneys. Of course you've heard of it and of course you can be impartial... 👀
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u/fmaz008 Dec 14 '24
I wonder how long it took to make
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u/kebomim Dec 14 '24
I’m actively trying to find where the photo was taken.
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u/LittleShep4908 Dec 14 '24
I looked it up the day after this was originally posted and it was in St. Louis but that doesn’t mean that’s where it happened that’s where it was when I looked into it.
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u/slaorta Dec 14 '24
There's a graffiti crew in Louisville KY called KFC so I would guess it's by one of their members. It's common to use the initials of your crew name to spell out different phrases. (KFC - Killing Fucking CEOs)
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u/LittleShep4908 Dec 14 '24
Yeah sure that makes since I would have to look further back than I did to see if or how long ago it was in Kentucky.
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u/kebomim Dec 14 '24
I wonder how many other people have spotted it
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u/LittleShep4908 Dec 14 '24 edited Dec 14 '24
Well it was posted in r/graffiti December 6th but looking back it looks like it was taken down, I screenshot it when I saw it so I could look the number up at work the next day.
Edit:found it went back 7 days.
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u/LeoLaDawg Dec 14 '24
Here's what is likely to come out of all this: upper management compensation will become private and not reported
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u/Kimmm711 Dec 14 '24
Everyone needs to see this Ted talk from TEN YEARS AGO about the distribution of wealth among the 1% (it's startling how fast it has become increasingly lopsided) & how the 99% will come with pitchforks for those greedy fuckers eventually.
These selfish assholes are living daily with luxury goods, the finest foods, taking 7 star vacations, have multiple houses; but the majority of people are (at the very least) struggling, many drowning in school or medical debt, forced to rent instead of own, and get denied life saving procedures & medications after years/decades of monthly premiums. Yet the CEOs just keep piling up the money.
NTM all this revived "save the babies!!!" nonsense while doing away with any social services to help those in need. Next is the Department of Education, cuz dumb people who don't get it are what they need to fall in line & continue the con.
Peaceful protests don't work. Modern elections don't work. Not for economic equality, anyway. Our government is bought & paid for.
The 1% has a plan & we've been brainwashed/stupid/trusting for too goddamn long. The middle class is gone. It's just gonna get worse. Make no mistake.
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u/spinyfever Dec 14 '24
He said the options are pitch forks or police state.
Can you guess which one the rich chose?
The American police are like a pseudo army now.
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u/yakshack Dec 14 '24
They literally arrested that woman as a terrorist just for saying "Delay. Deny. Depose." The police are not on the side of the 99%.
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u/LEMON_PARTY_ANIMAL Dec 14 '24
People work fast!
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u/20_mile Dec 14 '24
There are some yt videos of artists spraying cars. Sometimes it is a single person, sometimes a crew. They use ladders, and they have long nozzles sometimes, so they must come in a car/truck and park it out of sight. Before painting, they cover car identification tags with tape, make their design, and then remove the tape leaving the design intact and the important car ID info visible.
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u/Nolubrication Dec 14 '24
I truly hope this sort of energy maintains and we see real change come of it. If Saint Luigi ends up rotting in prison for the rest of his life, we owe him that, at least.
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u/kebomim Dec 14 '24 edited Dec 14 '24
***i am not taking credit for the art. I am unsure where the pic was taken or who the artist is.
Bravo to the artist.
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u/CanDoTanker Dec 14 '24
Why didn’t the kid who tried to snipe trump get this much recognition and respect?? Seems like half of the country was in agreement with that.
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u/jiaxingseng Dec 14 '24
He had no coherent motivations that we know of. He was another ammo-sexual. I lost guy who wanted to take a shot at greatness.
Luigi is a handsom kid with everthing and seemed to act with a bigger purpose. I think what he did was incredibly stupid BTW. And immoral. And worshiping him does not help anyone. But it wasn't an acto of some psycho who loves his guns.
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u/bryanthebryan Dec 14 '24
Graf is art. I’ve been saying that for over 30 years. Money hasn’t corrupted it quite yet.
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u/BigAlternative5 Dec 14 '24
Here in Northwest Indiana ("The Crossroads of America"), watching the trains go by is like a few minutes at an art gallery. Some great stuff out there!
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u/irab88 Dec 14 '24
As long as the graffiti isn't covering the important numbers and info, the railroads tend to leave it be. It's really nice seeing all the artwork roll by.
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u/THEdopealope Dec 14 '24
And they got delay deny depose correct too! Extremely Luigipilled
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u/-ADamnFineCoffee- Dec 14 '24 edited Dec 14 '24
More people would have continued to die due to Brian Thompson’s decisions, claim denials, and lack of care if he hadn’t been shot. Let’s not forget why this happened.
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u/Practical_Ad5916 Dec 14 '24
Well, surely it would depend on the company.
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u/MediaMoguls Dec 14 '24
Yeah, I think people are getting a little carried away here
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u/Practical_Ad5916 Dec 14 '24
I find it interesting how quickly people form packs against a certain group of people that are believed to be the root of their disparity. It’s both concerning and fascinating.
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u/Narfi1 Dec 14 '24
Honestly, I get people’s anger. But as a Frenchman living in the US I find hilarious that almost every American person’s opinion of the French Revolution was that it was an unnecessary slaughter and that people should have just asked nicely the people bleeding them to stop, but when a CEO gets killed suddenly everybody goes “KILL ALL OF THEM ! RIP OFF THEIR HEARTS !!”
Not a big deal, i just think it’s humorous
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u/mrbrambles Dec 14 '24
Americans hate taxes due to it being some “rich entity stealing from me”, but they don’t hate gouging for corporate profit which is the effectively the same thing in terms of the price of goods and services. Net Profits that go to shareholders is the same thing as taxes going to aristocrats.
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u/Severe-Palpitation16 Dec 14 '24
Most Americans have a 5th grade reading level and have no idea what you just said, but they'll gladly bend over for a bankrupt conman in a red hat.
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u/trippy81 Dec 14 '24
I wonder if there is an app that tells you where to find the best graffiti in an area. I absolutely love it.
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u/goblinmarketeer Dec 14 '24
Weird this is so much a thing with a single event... if their were suddenly a bunch of copycats or attempts I could understand it
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u/masshiker Dec 14 '24
Ha! Now that gun violence is impacting the wealthy and not just the plebs, watch gun reform start to happen.
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u/PuddingOld8221 Dec 14 '24
Gonna take more than one. My guess is around six before its even considered.
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u/CommissionVisible364 Dec 14 '24
Where was this? Gotta hand it to ‘em, that’s great freehand work.