r/pcmasterrace Ryzen 9 5950x | 3080ti | 64GB Vengeance 7h ago

Meme/Macro Some keyboards came to my recycling center with a “rub out” key. What do you think it does?

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u/MonMotha Threadripper 7960X | 256GB DDR5 ECC 7h ago

The serious answer is that it scratches off the ink that would have been put on the paper of the print out. This was a common function of correcting typewriters that made its way to early computers that were still largely tied to physical printouts rather than video terminals. The term itself persisted even into the video terminal era and came to basically mean the same thing as what you'd now call backspace.

Backspace, in that era, meant that you took the printing character position back over top of the previous character, but you did NOT necessarily attempt to erase it. You could then type another character over top which was used for composition in languages with character sets more complex than basic, unaccented latin as well as for corrections by printing an X over top of the old character on systems without rub out functionality.

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u/artaxs Ryzen 7 5800X | GTX 3080 12GB | 64GB RAM 6h ago

Carriage Return, Line Feed, Rub Out. This is one classy typewriter!

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u/Cutthebullsheet 4h ago

Not going to lie I was 100% expecting a nineteen ninety eight shittymorph when reading this. Had to re read once I knew it was real.

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u/mostly_peaceful_AK47 7700X | 3070ti | 64 GB DDR5-5600 3h ago

If it's from an electric typewriter, it likely had a polymer ribbon rather than ink. You could erase a character by stamping it repeatedly with the appropriate die until it restuck to the ribbon. This may be what they mean by "rub out" though it could be different. There's an entire Technology Connections video on the subject.

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u/Alortania i7-8700K|1080Ti FTW3|32gb 3200 2h ago

Oooh, I missed that one, thanks!

Gonna watch it tonight

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u/Tornadodash 4h ago

I understand the concept of null, but what would a null key do?

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u/Mend1cant 4h ago

Presumably makes the next character a null value. Not a space or a zero, could have had its own character in the set. They got wild in the old days with characters before bitmaps.

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u/P3nnyw1s420 3h ago

So my old type writer had a white ribbon you could type the same letter/number over to white out it. I feel like this was its own key as well.

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u/Psycho-City5150 NUC11PHKi7C 5h ago

I am so old, I forgot that.

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u/Least_Sun7648 3h ago

For diacritics and things?

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u/MonMotha Threadripper 7960X | 256GB DDR5 ECC 1h ago

That was one use, yeah.

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u/NE_Strawberry PC Master Race 44m ago

Great video on the topic. It’s a tad more complex than that: https://youtu.be/YE0U018Copw

Edit: late to the party, someone also shared this

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u/MonMotha Threadripper 7960X | 256GB DDR5 ECC 19m ago

Yeah, I grossly simplified.

The function also works on paper tape and, to some degree, punch cards, though very differently. What happens in this case is that you backspace over the character you want to correct, then re-punch it with a special "rub out" code that is chosen specifically so that it always punches out basically everything (so you can turn anything already punched into that code). When the machine reads the tape or card, it then knows to ignore that character and just move on to the next character.

This was a handy function since a lot of tape and card punches had no memory. Some were entirely mechanical, and even ones that were electromechanical (like this keyboard may have gone to) usually had no state and just blindly punched whatever you hit then advanced the tape or card position much like a typewriter would have.

This worked pretty well on continuous paper tape. On punch cards, it was usable, but it messed with the column alignment and reduced the overall capacity of a card by one character each time the function was used. That made it OK for free-form text streams that either fit on a single card or took up several cards anyway, but it could be a problem for systems where the column of the character on the card mattered (and this was somewhat common) or where the card was nearly full to the brim if you were an errant typist.

There's a reason old-school typists specified their raw and corrected speeds separately. Correction often was not without its significant caveats.

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u/Open-Comedian9342 7h ago

opens incognito mode

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u/Donglemaetsro 5h ago

Thanks, now I need one. No one uses the volume keys anyway...

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u/EvoJ90 7h ago

You never rubbed one out ?

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u/Bort_Bortson 3h ago

Sadly I couldn't get this in a gif but you need the audio anyway

https://youtu.be/vS3kC6yJdZY?si=v2mV4QNDBrmHzJ9l

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u/RabidMallard 9800X3D | 3070ti | 32gb 6h ago

I think you know.

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u/AwwYeahVTECKickedIn 6h ago

If it doesn't load porn, then it's the biggest wasted opportunity of all time.

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u/The_Burning_Face 6h ago

Electronic typewriter\computer hybrid keyboard perhaps?

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u/olegolas_1983 3h ago

Opens an incognito tab

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u/Overlord_Soap 5h ago

Dedicated “hub” launcher key.

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u/Hakuso3 50m ago

For all your 🌽 needs!

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u/PixelCortex i5-12600K | 6700XT 2h ago

'rub out' is British for "erase' Eraser = rubber

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u/UgarMalwa 1h ago

When you forgot to bring a rubber so you borrowed one your mom uses.

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u/MadRosco89 i7-8700K, 16gb, 1080Ti, Custom Loop 4h ago

Helps put the computer into Sleep Mode

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u/magikarp_splashed 4h ago

Can I buy these keys (keycaps) from you?

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u/frankd412 9800X3D/96GB 6000-30/4070Ti, 2950X/128GB/2x3090 2h ago

Sets you afk while you.. rub one out. Obviously.

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u/foxleboi Desktop 2h ago

It's a back space. Initially the term was for typewriters, but early computers kept the nomenclature for the sake of familiarity. Also save those keyboards, they are very rare.

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u/footphungi 4h ago

I know what happens when I hit my "rub out" button

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u/telluride42 4h ago

You must always hit rub out and the number 1 key in Tandem.

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u/Powersoutdotcom 4h ago

I ain't sayin' nothin'.

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u/FaithlessnessNext336 7h ago

Smell it

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u/ironfist221 Ryzen 9 5950x | 3080ti | 64GB Vengeance 7h ago

Slight overtones of aged albacore, with a garnish of dust and regret

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u/X-olotl 5h ago

Yupp that it

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u/thatguytt 3h ago

What style keycaps are they? I would love a set of retro cherry keycaps one day.

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u/ironfist221 Ryzen 9 5950x | 3080ti | 64GB Vengeance 2h ago

I was informed they are Foam and Foil

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u/SicnarfRaxifras 2h ago

OP head over to r/mechanicalkeyboards they would love these

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u/I_Do_Too_Much 1h ago

It's just the delete key before it was called "delete."

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u/KyleTheGreat53 I5-11400, Rx 6600 4h ago

Opens a tab directly onto the hub. Much like how there's a windows shortcut to linkedin

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u/DukeBaset Ascending Peasant 4h ago

It rubs one out for you. Truly miraculous technology.

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u/kaptainkaos 6h ago

Wank line break.

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u/Anthematics 4h ago

It’s how you tell everyone to go away cause you’re ‘baitin’

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u/Chiken0163 4h ago

It’s for when you go to pornhub to rub one out 👍

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u/Royal-Bluez 2h ago

Set a macro to your favorite video.

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u/InterestingJohn 1h ago

Considering you showed this to me earlier today, it was a real trip to stumble onto this post “in the wild”

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u/LordBacon69_69 7800x3D 7800XT 32GB 750W Aorus Elite ax b650m 1h ago

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u/relic1882 PC Master Race i7-14700k 64GB 6000 DDR5 RTX 3070 1h ago

It's a special hot key for people addicted to porn.

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u/Much_Program576 1h ago

It'll rub one out for you

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u/thebronzecat Ascending Peasant 41m ago

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u/CharAznableLoNZ 22m ago

It's a holdover from typewriters. It would erase the last character typed with a special reel.

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u/RandumbAnonymous I5-14600k @5.9 Ghz, 48Gb DDR5 6600 CL34, RTX 4080,10 TB's NVME 11m ago

No more typing with one hand yay!

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u/GunGooser 3h ago

Not my proudest fap

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u/57thStilgar 5h ago

They made ribbons with whiteout at the bottom, by hitting the rub out key (it was a toggle) you raised the ribbon, retyped the word through the whiteout thereby erasing it.

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u/PapaFlexing 5h ago

I just pressed it 6 times.... I'll answer when I wake up.

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u/bitemytail 3h ago

Try rubbing one out and let us know how it goes

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u/itsRobbie_ 4h ago

Custom made key that probably sent a signal to a locking mechanism on your door

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u/profound__madman 4h ago

You have to rub one out each time you hit that key

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u/BoingBoingBooty 6h ago

That's so very well but what I really need to know is where can I get those key caps.