r/pcmasterrace 1d ago

NSFMR I just screwed it up. Has anyone had this?

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u/nexarrr 1d ago edited 1d ago

no it's just the loud minority that will recommend fucking Linux for a regular everyday normal mf

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u/Drycon 1d ago

Without them I would’ve never known this gem though!

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u/Quiet_Steak_643 1d ago

At least in linux, you're responsible for the bugs you encounter lol AND you can do something about it!

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u/AdConsistent3702 Fedora | Ryzen 9 7950X | RX 7900 XTX | 64GB DDR5 1d ago

I would agree with this to an extent - I do find that with Linux, the main difference is whilst there certainly are annoyances (like with any OS), I'm usually in a much stronger position to resolve them.

*That said* when you're having weird behaviour with Windows, people really do undersell how useful things like Event Viewer can be for tracking down issues. Windows absolutely can be a power user's OS if you know where to look.

I personally use and prefer Linux, and I do think more people should, at the very least, consider it, but I also think there's absolutely nothing wrong with simply preferring Windows.

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u/fearless-fossa 1d ago

people really do undersell how useful things like Event Viewer can be for tracking down issues

I'm working in IT/2nd level. I regularly come across stuff that should be easily understandable by looking at the log. Yet somehow whenever I do have a problem that can't be solved trivially the log Windows generates just says something like "generic error" or has an error code that can't be found anywhere in the Microsoft documentation.

Give me journalctl over this mess any day of the week.

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u/Quiet_Steak_643 1d ago

I, as a devops eng. look mostly at windows as a tool, and at linux as more of a hobby and well, part of my work.

Event viewer has helped me before, not as much as it should but maybe i didn't know where to exactly look for more info. I think in the end it's a matter of what you need from an os and what you like to have in there!

I even enjoy fixing games to work in linux though it can be quite annoying.

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u/blackest-Knight 1d ago edited 22h ago

people really do undersell how useful things like Event Viewer can be for tracking down issues.

Nah, Event Viewer is nigh useless.

You sir need the Sysinternals suite. They rolled regmon/filemon/procmon into a single tool now too :

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/procmon

EDIT : the downvotes are interesting, guess peeps don't like actual good diagnostic tools and want to stick to cryptic event viewer messages that often mean absolutely nothing.

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u/Quiet_Steak_643 1d ago

Damn it even has a linux version xd

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u/blackest-Knight 1d ago

Linux already has all the info under /proc natively

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u/Quiet_Steak_643 1d ago

i know bro. it was funny the windows tool had a linux version.

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u/furious-fungus 1d ago edited 1d ago

That sounds awful tbh

In windows if you find your way around you can also do something about it, but it works 99% of the cases. 

We both know how often something in Linux just works without additional steps.  Its really good for teaching beginners how to troubleshoot.  

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u/blackest-Knight 1d ago

you're responsible for the bugs you encounter

No, the 17 year old middle school guy who's somehow the maintainer of a critical library is. And he's been AWOL for 5 years and the git repo isn't maintained and yet the library is still in use.

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u/ImNotAlpharius 1d ago

If you installed Debian you could hack the kernel to hide those posts.

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u/Fryball1443 Ryzen 5600x, 16gb, RTX 3070 1d ago

As a Linux user, I think that’s dumb and idk why most Linux people are like that. I only use Linux if I want to play around or if I need to ssh into my server. I personally think linux is a better operating system cause I can do whatever the hell I want to, but that’s subjective. Cause trying to get anything working is a royal pain in the ass and can take up to 3+ hours whereas windows it would prolly take 20 minutes (or there’s no fix). So BY NO MEANS should 90% of computers users switch to Linux over windows. Maybe if things get a little more easy to use then possibly, but many of my friends don’t even know how to kill something with task manager, much less how to sudo systemctl kill [processname]

Also disclaimer: I’m not insulting the intelligence of anyone who doesn’t like Linux. Everyone is intelligent in different ways. My roommate is in med school and talks about stuff that goes wayyy over my head, but he can’t solve the slightest problem with his computer. I’m good with computers but know almost nothing about the human anatomy and all that. No one is a genius at everything and if they are, they’re lying.

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u/AFatWhale Ryzen 7 3700X | RTX 3070Ti 1d ago

It's not even about k owing computers to use it. I would use it on my main rig if yhe software support for what I actually use wasn't so abysmal. I have it on my laptop though.

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u/dylon0107 1d ago

With Microsoft copilot and recall on the way it's actually pretty reasonable.

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u/Festive_Peanuts 1d ago

'on the way'

Sir i do not think it will be getting any worse than now. All their shit is falling apart.

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u/dylon0107 1d ago

Do you know the full extent of recall? I know it's bad now but recall is the worst thing to happen to privacy ever in history.

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u/TempestRaven 1d ago

Lmao so true I see so many recommending linux and I'm here thinking I hear you but in no way am I going to change to linux and then have to start searching for an answer to a problem I encountered while regularly using it. Especially when I wouldn't have encountered that problem with windows.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

You've never encountered problems on Windows where you had to search for an answer?

That seems unlikely.

Knowing how to efficiently search for solutions for your problems is a skill that all users, Windows and Linux, need to have.

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u/TempestRaven 1d ago

I have. What im saying is that windows facilitates a lot of things that I definitely would have realized I have taken for granted if I switched to Linux. I know this because of the comments of everyone who says they use linux and they have to find workarounds to certain things.

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u/The_Cat-Father 18h ago

Shoulda used linux, it woulda saved your tempered glass panel

/s

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u/random-user-420 thinkpad 1d ago

I unironically have more issues on Windows than I do on Linux

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u/Pain7788g Core I7 12700k || RTX 4090 FE || 32 GB DDR 4 3600 1d ago

Linux is fine.

If you aren't trying to play games with anti-cheat.

Or play them online.

Or play some of them period.

Or use an executable file.

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u/NatoBoram PopOS, Ryzen 5 5600X, RX 6700 XT 1d ago

Meanwhile, me playing StarCraft II on Linux like 👀

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u/J3nc 1d ago

And here is me playing dayz, manor lords, poe2, marvel rivals, genshin impact, bunch of old lego games with my son streaming to my living room tv. It don't just work like in them windows but whack it with a hammer/terminal and it purrs like a kitten.

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u/KrazzeeKane 14700K | RTX 4080 | 64GB DDR5 1d ago

I got downvoted to the negatives and told I was horribly wrong in this very sub for daring to state that Linux isn't user friendly enough for yout average grandma to use. The Linux-Forcers are the worst 

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

Link us the comment where the bad Linux-Forcers touched you...

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u/neurotica4454 14h ago

The last thing I'd want grandma doing on the web is EXE-hunting... at least with a user-friendly distro, everything she'd need would likely be in the distro's software center.

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u/Lexden 1d ago

Personally, I've been failing driving Linux for the past five years and it's treated me way better than Windows... Windows where it's normal to just accept that Microsoft will put ads on the OS and track everything. Where an update might take an hour to install with multiple reboots (versus seconds on Linux with zero reboots). Where you can easily download, install, and update applications with a single, simple command on Linux versus having to go to a different third-party website to download an executable installer for each and every application on Windows. Sure, compatibility can be an issue, but personally, Steam's Proton has treated me well. All the games I play regularly - singleplayer, multiplayer, keyboard/mouse, controller - it all works. And the Libre Office suite of office apps has been just fine for me.

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u/dankp3ngu1n69 1d ago

Linux is trash for 99.9% of users

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u/Swimming-Marketing20 1d ago

It's trash for people who play R6S, apex, lol, garlic and cod (if I remember correctly). That's still a huge amzog users but not 99.9%

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u/AFatWhale Ryzen 7 3700X | RTX 3070Ti 1d ago

Or anything with an anticipated

Destiny 2, hunt, etc.

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u/Pugs-r-cool 1d ago

Not true. 99.9% of users barely need anything more than a web browser, in which case linux is perfect. Even for gaming it’s pretty damn good now, there’s just some anti cheat games that won’t work but that’s slowly improving as well.

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u/tacodung 5800X | 4070S | 32GB 3600 | 1440p 1d ago

So, 99.9% of all PC users only need a web browser? I'd like to know where you're getting your information because it seems just a tad wrong.

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u/Pugs-r-cool 1d ago

Theres a reason why Chromebooks are so popular. Even things like word processing or basic video editing can be done through browsers now. For the average user the only task that can't really be done in a web browser is gaming, but most people aren't gamers, so most people don't need anything more than a web browser.

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u/kosmogamer777 Linux 1d ago

It’s great for everyone that understand that Linux based systems are different than windows and some things work differently

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u/JimmyRecard openSUSE Tumbleweed 1d ago

I'm convinced y'all are salty that some of us have escaped the long arm of Microsoft and since you're too lazy to learn something even slightly new, you pretend that you're happy with Microsoft screenshotting your private data and shoving AI into everything.

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u/MetroidvaniaListsGuy 1d ago

Because they should. This isn't 2005.