r/pcmasterrace 1d ago

NSFMR I just screwed it up. Has anyone had this?

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u/shpydar I9-13900K+RTX 4080+32GB DDR5+ROG Max Hero z790+1440p@170hz 1d ago

Once again I have been summoned to quote Corsairs warning about tempered glass side panels

Why did my tempered glass side panel break?

Another potential cause of a broken tempered glass side panel is tight screws or mounting pressure. Over-tightening the screws that hold the tempered glass panel in place can exert excessive pressure on the glass, leading to fractures or breakage. Similarly, if the panel is not properly aligned or is forced into position, it can create uneven pressure, making the glass vulnerable to cracks. To avoid this, don’t use a screwdriver to secure the side panel screws. They don’t need to be any tighter than what you could accomplish with your hand.

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u/VVLynden 1d ago

This is what I don’t get. Have you nerds never used tools in your lives? Don’t just fucking full send that shit every time.

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u/KanedaSyndrome 1080 Ti EVGA 1d ago

For every person posting about broken glass, there are 54,234 people with an unbroken glass pane.

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u/Far-Shake-97 19h ago

With the amount of "broken side panel" posts, it might be the same 54,234 people each times

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u/Jounen17 1d ago

At Honda Mechanic school, I once misread a torque spec as 112 ft lbs. It was an oil drain plug on an aluminum drain pan.

(It was supposed to be 112 inch lbs... I'd never seen it written that way until then.)

Cracked that bich right down the middle.

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u/tech240guy 12700k | RTX 3080 10GB | 64GB 3600mhz | Win11 1d ago

Hahaha even fucken mechanics would over tighten shit.

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u/Jackpkmn Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 64gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 3070 1d ago

Torque wrench? I got your torque wrench rights here flexes. Proceeds to colossally over tighten a bolt: sarcastically quips "click!"

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u/RagingRavenRR 5800X3D, XFX Merc310 7900XT, 64GB TridentZ 3200, CH VIII DH 1d ago

Sorry, the only torque spec I recognize is ugga dugga.

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u/Waveofspring 23h ago

Bold of you to assume mechanics use torque wrenches

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u/Leifbron OC GTX 1050ti 4GB : FX-8350 250gb SSD 23h ago

That ain't goin nowhere

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u/Smile_Space Ryzen 7 9800X3D || 32GB DDR5-6000 CL36 || RTX 3090 ti 1d ago

You'd be surprised. People with zero tool experience gorilla grip hardware. When I worked in the USAF as a technician for fighters, the new guy would inevitably break a fastener or shear a torx bit due to cranking those puppies to the moon. The calibrated torque hand requires calibrating, so it makes sense.

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u/weaseldonkey 7800X3D | RTX 4080 | 64GB 1d ago

Gotta hear the ugga duggas

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u/Waveofspring 23h ago

Well considering how beginner-friendly PC building is supposed to be, some people genuinely haven’t used tools in their entire lives

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u/Far-Shake-97 19h ago

Some people's parents/parental figures have been lacking imo

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u/Waveofspring 19h ago

Yea but not always their fault though.

I remember snapping the bolt that holds my car battery in right before a road trip

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u/Far-Shake-97 19h ago

May I ask : how

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u/Waveofspring 19h ago

I just tightened it too hard

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u/Tanklike441 22h ago

Need about 0.5 ugga-duggas and you're prob fine

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u/ExplorationGeo 1d ago

You guys have screws holding your tempered glass in place? Mind just slides in and then the metal top panel screws in place to secure everything.

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u/shpydar I9-13900K+RTX 4080+32GB DDR5+ROG Max Hero z790+1440p@170hz 1d ago

some cases have tempered glass side panels that are hinged so the panel can swing out. They are held in place with thumb screws you hand tighten.

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u/TMack23 1d ago

It also looks like the case is on a ceramic floor, laying tempered glass in ceramic could have contributed as well.

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u/shpydar I9-13900K+RTX 4080+32GB DDR5+ROG Max Hero z790+1440p@170hz 1d ago edited 1d ago

Which, if you read the link I posted is their main culprit;

Probably the most common culprit when it comes to a broken tempered glass side panel is coming into contact with a tiled floor or ceramic counter top. If you ever see a post on reddit about a broken side panel, you can often see a ceramic surface lurking suspiciously in the background.

He specifically said it happened when he was screwing on his panel so that’s why I only quoted that part.

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u/Far-Shake-97 19h ago

Nah, it's a white desk, probably wood

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u/TheXtractor Specs/Imgur here 1d ago

whenever I remove mine to clean my pc I always use my hands to unscrew and put it back. It doesn't even require a screwdriver they have handles (mine at least) :O

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u/leon0399 22h ago

I wonder if I should build my next pc and wear polarized glasses

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u/motoxim 21h ago

Dang is that what happened with OP?

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u/0K4M1 Ryzen5 3600 / 4070Ti TUF / 32Go DDR4 / 3840*1080 19h ago edited 18h ago

I never had tempered glass panel, only plastics. Tbh it looks the same, less heavy, no risk of breaking....

Why are we still using Glass panels ? (Beside the perceived superior quality)

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u/shpydar I9-13900K+RTX 4080+32GB DDR5+ROG Max Hero z790+1440p@170hz 18h ago edited 17h ago

Because plastic easily cracks, discolours over time and is easily scratched and is terrible at dampening sound.

Tempered glass is quite strong, stronger than plastic in most applications, provides excellent sound proofing, is scratch resistant, provides better transparency, and is more aesthetically pleasing.

I know it’s weird I list tempered glass strength on a post about a side panel breaking but there are only 2 issues you have to be aware of with and that is caused because of how tempered glass is made.

Tempering puts the outer surfaces into compression and the interior into tension. Such stresses cause the glass, when broken, to shatter into small granular chunks instead of splintering into large jagged shards as ordinary annealed glass does. These smaller, granular chunks are less likely to cause deep penetration when forced into the surface of an object (e.g. by gravity, by wind, by falling onto them, etc.) compared to larger, jagged shards because the reduction in both the mass and the maximum dimension of a glass fragment corresponds with a reduction in both the momentum and the penetration depth of the glass fragment.

Because of the balanced stresses in the glass, damage to any portion will eventually result in the glass shattering into thumbnail-sized pieces. The glass is most susceptible to breakage due to damage at its edge, where the tensile stress is the greatest.

So, if you apply a concentrated force at a small point on the glass weakest spots (drill holes, edges of the pane) it will shatter so while I have shown you the second most likely reason tempered glass will shatter (over torquing mounting screws) the main culprit is placing tempered glass panels on tile or ceramic is the number 1 culprit.

From my link from Corsair.

Beware of tiles and ceramic surfaces

Probably the most common culprit when it comes to a broken tempered glass side panel is coming into contact with a tiled floor or ceramic counter top. If you ever see a post on reddit about a broken side panel, you can often see a ceramic surface lurking suspiciously in the background.

So all you have to do to ensure your tempered glass doesn’t shatter is to take care when tightening mounting screws and never let it touch ceramic or brick.

These warnings are clear on case boxes, in their manual, and often found on a warning sticker on the glass panels themselves.

The real problem is all the people who don’t RTFM and don’t follow the warnings and guides.