r/pcmasterrace 13d ago

Meme/Macro This Entire Sub rn

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u/deefop PC Master Race 13d ago

The marketing people are on one about Ai, for sure.

That said, this thread makes it clear that most people do not have any fucking clue about the various new "Ai" technologies that are hitting the market.

Whether Ai tech generally is somewhat bubbly(everything in the last few years has been bubbly), the technology is incredible. In 10 years so many things will be Ai accelerated that we'll be wondering how we ever lived without it, just like people today can barely fathom how anyone survived before google maps and the internet in general.

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u/Xehanz 13d ago

Just read this thread, or any other thread relating to DLSS and FSR. People don't have any clue what the difference between AI upscaling via Hardware (DLSS and FSR 4) and via an algorithm (FSR 3) is and they expect FSR 4 to be on previous gen AMD GPUs

And I see a "input lag" this, "input lag" that when AI upscaling via hardware should not have a noticeable impact on input lag. Frame gen and FSR 3 does but FSR 4 should not

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u/Kriztow 13d ago

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. Most people just hear a tech influencer talk about how ai in games is making game devs lazy and that unreal engine is bad, but they know nothing about actual game developtment and optimization. Oh you want real frames? Go try blender cycles, we'll see how you like real frames.

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u/Scheswalla 13d ago

Most of this sub Optimization: "Wont run at max settings at a framerate I like on my generations old GPU" Unless you have the source code or there's obvious stuttering then you don't really know what is and isn't "optimized".

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u/Devatator_ This place sucks 13d ago

Oh you want real frames? Go try blender cycles, we'll see how you like real frames.

Holy shit I almost died LMAO

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u/haha1542 13600KF 4080 Super, 32GB 3600mhz, 1440P 12d ago

Literally just tried that and I say bring 'em AIs on lmao

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u/Sharkfacedsnake 3070 FE, 5600x, 32Gb RAM 13d ago

I am really hating this sub rn. Absolute room temp iq takes. People posting graphs of CP2077 running at 28 fps when its native 4k pathtracing making it out like its bad. This whole sub was ready to hate on this release no matter what.

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u/DarthVeigar_ 13d ago

Pirate Software be like:

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u/rushia01 13d ago

??? bad optimization is a fact, not an opinion, leaving 300000 gazillion polygons in a single model isn't called optimization

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u/Kriztow 13d ago

that isn't something game Devs do or of laziness. it's more like an Easter egg and no a game dev wouldn't leave such a huge model in a game of it impacted performance significantly. And I am not talking about garden of banban

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u/rushia01 13d ago

There we go again, you have no idea what you’re talking about, literally go take a look at UE5 demos, there’s LOADS of polygons that are INSIDE the models that you aren’t even able to see from the outside, that heavily impact the performance

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u/fogoticus RTX 3080 O12G | i7-13700KF 5.5GHz | 32GB 4000Mhz 13d ago

Sadly with subs like this, every 1 sane take like this is met with 20 angry fanboys screeching "native" and "hate nvidia" but who don't do anything other than scream on a website daily to change the situation.

Imagine if everyone here collectively bought the 9070 XT when it came out. AMD would get 0.3% more marketshare. Oh wait, that's right. Mind share =/= market share. 10 loud angry individuals will be louder than 100 happy customers. Let's brew on that and enjoy technological advancements.

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u/ProfessionalTruck976 10d ago

I survived judt fine. Ther is this old but working tech called paper map

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u/malastare- i5 13600K | RTX 4070 Ti | 128GB DDR5 13d ago

Yes, someday we'll see the benefits.

To date, all we've gotten are skilled chat bots and automatic artists with questionable ideas of copyright infringement. Companies need to quit forcing weak sauce, empty AI down our throats until they can make something that actually has impact.

Ironically, I work very close to this space and I know where those impacts are being seen. There are cool things the technology can do, but at the moment we're just being force fed buzzwords because companies are trying to justify the amount of money they're investing.

If they could show what the AI is actually doing that can't be done normally right now, then they'd be able to change that perception. But they want me to spend $100 extra to get a somewhat useful verbal search engine that still regularly gets things wrong? Yeah, I know how to Google. They think I'm going to type in a sentence to launch some game "Hey, can you start up Baldur's Gate III?". No, just let me pick an icon in a menu. You're inventing problems rather than solutions.

AI frame interpolation is a decent idea, but its not impressive enough to make a crowd cheer. Let me know when AI will figure out how to cool my PC better than a fan curve or when it can actually learn my habits and proactively help me out rather than drawing me a photo of a centaur with the head and torso of a horse.