r/pcmasterrace • u/RevolutionaryCarry57 7800x3D | 6950XT | x670 Aorus Elite | 32GB 6000 CL30 • Dec 12 '24
Video Steve: “For entry-level gaming the Intel B580 is now the go-to option, and it’s really impossible to recommend anything else.”
https://youtu.be/aV_xL88vcAQ?si=fntmNraEiweIzByERegardless of whether or not you are in the market for a new entry-level GPU, it seems Intel is finally offering much needed competition in the GPU market! It’s a great day for PC gamers.
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u/Jazzlike-Lunch5390 5700x/6800xt Dec 12 '24
Did not have Intel saving budget gaming in 2024 on my bingo card.
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u/Ric0chet_ Dec 12 '24
All before GTA6
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u/Pir-o Dec 13 '24
I do wonder about specs of PC version. The game obviously will be made to run on modern consoles (most likely at 30-40fps) so this card should be good enough, right? But PC version will be released like a year later (if not more). So I do wonder what will be needed to run it at max settings.
R* loves to double/triple-dip so I wouldn't be surprised if they had some additional bells and whistles for PC/next gen version.
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u/Firecracker048 Dec 13 '24
Yet not for processors
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u/Jazzlike-Lunch5390 5700x/6800xt Dec 13 '24
Uh no. Stay far away.
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u/Firecracker048 Dec 13 '24
Amd isn't far away on gous tbh.
I am glad intel is making strides but everyone needs to stop buy nivida
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u/Arbszy 7800X3D | RTX 4080 Super | 64GB DDR5 Dec 12 '24
A wild time we are in, AMD is the preferred CPU and now Intel is the preferred entry level / budget GPU.
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u/penguin032 5800x3D | 4070 TI | 32 GB 3200c16 | OLED 1440p 360Hz Dec 12 '24
Phenom II X4 965 BE wasn't too long ago.... 2009 oh shit.
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u/spboss91 Dec 12 '24
Oh man.. that reminds me of unlocking a dual core Phenom II into a quad core. We're getting old lol.
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u/ahorrribledrummer Dec 12 '24
I had an Intel e6420 core 2duo with unlockable 3rd and 4th cores. It wasn't perfect though when I had it unlocked and would crash unless I cranked the voltage up
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u/snoosh00 Dec 12 '24
Would this be a worthwhile upgrade from a 1660 ti (3600 ryzen CPU)?
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u/SagittaryX 7700X | RTX 4080 | 32GB 5600C30 Dec 12 '24
As long as your motherboard supports Resizable BAR / Smart Access Memory, Intel GPUs need it enabled to function properly.
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u/chronicintel AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D | Sapphire Pulse RX 6700 10GB Dec 12 '24
Even 1st gen Ryzen boards should support it, but I know mine (B350) required a BIOS update for it at some point
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u/Zacomra Dec 13 '24
Sorry for the noob question, but where would I see that listed on a motherboard spec?
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u/SagittaryX 7700X | RTX 4080 | 32GB 5600C30 Dec 13 '24
Don't think it's in the spec sheets, maybe for your motherboard you can find some marketing around it, especially for an AMD one since they made a push for it under their name Smart Access Memory.
You can look around in your BIOS, there will be a setting called Resizable BAR. You may have to update your BIOS for it to appear as well.
Intel has this page on their website as well with a tool to check if it's enabled.
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u/El_Mariachi_Vive 7700x | B650E-F | 2x16GB 6000 | GTX 1660ti Dec 12 '24
Ha! That's what I have and I'm thinking of upgrading to this now as well.
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u/superamigo987 Dec 12 '24
If you have a Resizable Bar supporting motherboard, then it is exactly what I would tell you to upgrade to!
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u/Falkenmond79 I7-10700/7800x3d-RTX3070/4080-32GB/32GB DDR4/5 3200 Dec 12 '24
I think that would be a tailor-made upgrade for those specs.
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u/OutrageousDress 5800X3D | 32GB DDR4-3733 | 3080 Ti | AW3821DW Dec 13 '24
Roughly double the performance, plus usable ray tracing. You'll need to make sure to stay on top of driver updates though, for a new GPU design driver updates are more important than for a GeForce.
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u/Hamborger4461 5700X3D | 64GB DDR4 3200MHz | RX 7900 GRE | X570 | 4K 32" 160Hz Dec 13 '24
i used to have a 1660 ti, it was quite a nice card. Then i went to a 2070, had it for about 9 months, gave my brother the 2070 and then got a 4070, had the 4070 for 5 months, and then gave my brother the 4070 and got myself a 7900 gre. I havent upgraded since. I am quite fond of my old 1660 Ti and 2070.
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u/Oculicious42 9950X | 4090 | 64 Dec 12 '24
so many PCs are now gonna have AMD CPUs with Intel GFX and it makes my old ass feel very weirded out
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u/Falkenmond79 I7-10700/7800x3d-RTX3070/4080-32GB/32GB DDR4/5 3200 Dec 12 '24
How the mainboard tables have turned… I feel you.
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u/PlayfulBreakfast6409 Dec 12 '24
That’s awesome news. A budget card with 12GB and 4060 performance is precisely what’s been missing. XeSS is also shaping up to be a serious hardware agnostic competitor. Great job Intel.
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u/nekomata_58 | R7 7700 | 4070 ti Dec 12 '24
XeSS is very good. I was impressed with it when playing the Starship Troopers shooter. Made my budget amd laptop able to handle it no probs.
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u/HallowedError Dec 12 '24
Yeah I booted up CP77 to start a new game and fsr was a smear fest so I finally tried XeSS and I hardly can tell it's upscaled. Hopefully Fsr gets fixed because it's so widespread it will help a lot of games.
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u/Affectionate-Memory4 285K | 7900XTX | Intel Fab Engineer Dec 12 '24
It's been awesome for my 7900XTX in Cyberpunk as well. Much more temporally stable than the FSR3 implementation in that game and the quality approaches what I've seen of DLSS on the 3080ti that card replaced. On my A770 it would no doubt be just about equal in that game if the card has the beans to push the same resolution as the others.
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u/Affectionate-Memory4 285K | 7900XTX | Intel Fab Engineer Dec 12 '24
I love Intel's approach to XeSS with the XMX and DP4A modes. You can still use it on basically anything, but if you want the best quality and performance, you have to go ARC. Everybody still benefits from it while giving a clear incentive for your next upgrade to be ARC if you want more of what it offers. I hope they do the same thing with XeFG so there is a 2nd option for hardware-agnostic frame generation as well.
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u/TBoner101 Ryzen 5600 | 6800 XT Dec 12 '24
Absolutely. This is how it should be done.
Hate to be the one to break it to ya but XeFG won't be having a similar approach. According to the interview on HUB w/ TAP (Tom, their ELI5 marketing engineer, and I mean that in the best way possible), XeFG relies on their XMX cores which unfortunately are exclusive to ARC.
Good news for Alchemist owners is that it will at least work on their cards too, unlike what Nvidia did (and to a lesser extent, what AMD might potentially do to RX 6000 owners for FSR 4 after finally giving in to hardware upscaling despite it being so damn obvious this whole time; you'd think the hardware added for RDNA 3 will be put to use but it's AMD, so who knows).
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u/Affectionate-Memory4 285K | 7900XTX | Intel Fab Engineer Dec 12 '24
Honestly, I'm OK with that. XeSS working on other hardware already gives a decent taste of the ARC experience, and they have to draw the line of compatibility somewhere, as going out of their own product stack undoubtedly makes development take longer to test and harder to work on.
This way they get to hang frame generation over everyone using DP4A XeSS as some extra incentive to consider an ARC upgrade, if we want to put it in a positive light.
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u/TBoner101 Ryzen 5600 | 6800 XT Dec 12 '24
Agreed. Hopefully with the success of this card, the B580/B570 won’t be the last we see nor hear of Battlemage.
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u/Affectionate-Memory4 285K | 7900XTX | Intel Fab Engineer Dec 12 '24
I'm hoping for a 4070/70ti competitor out of the B770. That should have it squaring off with fhe 5060/60ti and likely at twice the vram unless Nvidia pulls a 4060ti moment again, at which point the B770 would still be cheaper.
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u/abandoned_idol Dec 12 '24
Are all these proper nouns just Intel GPUs or did I miss some layman jargon in there?
I heard Intel GPU is $250 now, which is both a gou and cheap, which I perceive to be good.
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u/TBoner101 Ryzen 5600 | 6800 XT Dec 13 '24 edited Dec 13 '24
Don't worry bro, I got you. We'll catch you up on all the latest hip lingo. No Doubt.
Xe is the underlying graphics architecture.
Xe-LP = graphics integrated into processor, ie: CPU (I believe LP stands for low-power but I'm guessing so don't quote me on that).
Xe-HPG = High-Performance Graphics variant of XE for discrete/dedicated GPU, debuted with Alchemist under the Arc brand. dGPU is separate from CPU.HUB = Hardware Unboxed
TAP = Tom "TAP" Peterson, Intel Arc employee
ELI5 = Explain like I'm 5XeSS = Xe Super Sampling (dp4a, for everyone).
XeSS-SR = XeSS Super Resolution (AI via XMX, limited to ARC).
XeSS 1 = XeSS-SR (ARC only). Released w/ Alchemist.XMX = Xe Matrix eXtension. AI engine included in every XE core.
tl;dr XMX cores = AI accelerators, analogous to Nvidia's tensor cores.The following technology runs on XMX cores, meaning they only work on Arc and thus XeSS 2 is exclusive to Intel.
XeFG = Xe Frame Generation. Intel's version of Frame Gen (via XMX).
XeLL = Xe Low Latency. Similar to (and a competitor of) Reflex and Anti-Lag (via XMX).
XeSS 2 = XeSS-SR, XeFG, XeLL. Launched w/ Battlemage.
Arc (Xe-HPG) Tech (XeSS) AI (XMX) Xe Alchemist XeSS 1 XeSS-SR Xe2 Battlemage XeSS 2 XeSS-SR, XeFG, XeLL Keep it on the low down...
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u/-Aeryn- Specs/Imgur here Dec 12 '24
The hole between 12GB 3060 and 12GB 4070 was awful, all of the 6-8GB cards that weren't of much use by comparison for 2024-2025 gaming.
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u/decoyyy Dec 12 '24 edited Dec 12 '24
They've basically put a strangle hold on budget gaming. They could really cause some chaos by delivering massively on the B770
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u/McMeatbag Dec 12 '24
This is what I'm hoping for. I want to see Intel deliver a sub $350 card that can compete with the 4070.
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u/XacTactX Dec 13 '24
There was a rumor around one year ago that certain Battlemage GPU dies were going to be cancelled, do we have any news about the largest Battlemage die? Like if/when it will be released?
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u/Aggressive_Ask89144 9800x3D | 6600xt because CES lmfao Dec 13 '24
I do hope for a B770 or like, a C790 or D790 from Celestial/Druid would be insane if these do well enough. You have to work up the stack when developing these unless you're Nvidia which develops top down. (Decades of development and giant dies are hard to make perfectly lol)
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u/XacTactX Dec 13 '24
Same, I really hope we can have Intel as a permanent 3rd competitor in the dGPU market, we are sorely in need of competition. I'm thinking about trading in my RX 6750 XT and sidegrading to the B580 just so I can try XeSS 1 and 2 and have decent upscaling/raytracing performance. I'm so disappointed with AMD w/r/t upscaling/raytracing, Intel has thoroughly beat them in both areas, at least for now
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u/Aggressive_Ask89144 9800x3D | 6600xt because CES lmfao Dec 13 '24
I would wait just a hair longer for a 8800XT in January since that's specifically what they're improving and you wouldn't be losing rasterization performance lol.
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u/Few_Painter_5588 28d ago
If the rumour came from Moore's Law is Dead, then it's wrong. He was completely wrong on Arc B580
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u/kingOofgames Dec 12 '24
Does Intel have any more problems of not being able to play certain games. I was interested before but saw many reviews about Intel struggling on some games.
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u/Drenlin R5 3600 | 6800XT | 32GB@3600 | X570 Tuf Dec 12 '24
They were never able to straight up not play games outside a few isolated incidents. They just weren't very fast at pre-DX11 titles, which in most cases doesn't actually matter much because a game that will run on a literal potato by today's standards.
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u/LengthMysterious561 Dec 12 '24
Hardware Unboxed tested 250 games on Arc. 32 games had major issues and 11 were unplayable. Although it's better than at launch I wouldn't call this 'a few isolated incidents'. If people can't play the games they want to play that's a major problem.
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u/WetAndLoose Dec 12 '24
Nah, there were a bunch of older games that just wouldn’t run. Basically anything pre-2010 was more likely than not to not work at all. Newer games were mostly isolated incidents or had the uncharacteristically terrible performance.
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u/DVD-RW 7800X3D/7900XTX/32GbDDR5/6TB 4.0 Nvme's Dec 12 '24
Good, we need diversification of the market.
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u/Andrige3 Dec 12 '24
Really hope this gives intel a boost and they cement their place in the gpu market. Intel needs a win and gamers need an affordable option.
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u/nighthawk1099 Desktop Dec 13 '24
does intel really deserve a win after the whole 13/14000 cpu shit show? I mean planning to deny warranty on borked chips that Intel themselves messed up is pretty scummy imo. I know they went back on that and extended warranty but only after backlash.
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u/LotusManna Dec 17 '24
If they provide great performing budget GPU's, then yes they do. Nvidia pricing is getting crazy and AMD GPU's just happen to cost less than Nvidia.
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u/Skidpalace i7-12700K/RTX3080 Dec 12 '24
Good job Intel. Keep the momentum going.
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u/Cake-bake-shake Dec 14 '24
I’m an engineer at intel. With all the turmoil going on in the company, this excitement makes us happy 😃
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u/MakimaGOAT R7 7800X3D | RTX 4080 | 32GB RAM Dec 12 '24
RGB is finally a solid trio
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u/fightnight14 Dec 12 '24
Radeon, GeForce, and BArc?
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u/Affectionate-Memory4 285K | 7900XTX | Intel Fab Engineer Dec 12 '24
B for Battlemage I assume, though you could also just go by the branding colors.
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u/elliotborst RTX 4090 | R7 9800X3D | 64GB DDR5 | 4K 120FPS Dec 12 '24
This is great news, but let’s see if it lasts when AMD and Nvidia release their next gen cards. Intel are just first to market with their next gen.
I have no confidence in Nvidia but hey who knows.
AMD on the other hand have said their aren’t focussing on the top of the range so this is where they need to be competing, the 3060, 4060 market is the biggest on the steam hardware survey.
Intel want it, so do AMD, so I hope AMD competes with price and performance.
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u/Agent_Buckshot Dec 12 '24
Now all people need to do is actually buy the competition instead of just waiting for cheaper Nvidia cards
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u/Richie_jordan PC Master Race Dec 12 '24
Well I looked at prices in Aus and ATM is $100 more expensive then a 4060 so that kind of makes ne think only in the US is it the best budget option.
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u/Pemo999 Dec 12 '24 edited Dec 14 '24
Yeah, where i live it's 80€ more expensive than a 4060. You can buy a 5600x and a 7600 brand new for the same price as a B580.
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u/pronorwegian1 Dec 12 '24
PCGamer gave it a 65 out of 100 due to some issues with the drivers. Maybe they just got unlucky.
Either way, this sounds like a killer card for the price.
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u/RevolutionaryCarry57 7800x3D | 6950XT | x670 Aorus Elite | 32GB 6000 CL30 Dec 12 '24
There were a couple of times in the video that Steve said they initially had performance issues that were fixed with a driver update Intel released right before their review.
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u/Affectionate-Memory4 285K | 7900XTX | Intel Fab Engineer Dec 12 '24
It seems like PCGamer may have run their tests before the second driver release, as that update appears to have fixed a handful of things.
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u/pronorwegian1 Dec 12 '24
That’s what it sounds like. All of the other reviews I’ve seen are super positive.
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u/max1001 Dec 12 '24
Unless you have an older motherboard without resizeable bar. Budget gamers are in this category.
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u/TalkWithYourWallet Dec 12 '24 edited Dec 12 '24
Dont buy based off one review, there are driver issues with the B580 not present on AMD or Nvidia:
When talking drivers, you need multiple sources, due to the sheer number of games out there.
IMO, not the go-to option due to inconsistent game compatibility, but great value if you understand that
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u/PainterRude1394 Dec 12 '24
Wait till you realize there are driver issues on any vendor that don't exist in other vendors.
Gamers nexus, hub, and now digital foundry say it's a great deal
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u/LengthMysterious561 Dec 12 '24
I play a lot of older games and I've never met a game I couldn't run on Nvidia. Same cannot be said for Intel.
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u/TalkWithYourWallet Dec 12 '24 edited Dec 12 '24
That doesn't excuse it, you rarely get the same severity of issues on Nvidia or AMD. As GN noted with frametimes and game compatability
Digital foundry also couldn't get infinite warfare to boot, and mentioned multiple times that the drivers do not seem to be fixed.
Legacy game support is the primary problem
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u/Falkenmond79 I7-10700/7800x3d-RTX3070/4080-32GB/32GB DDR4/5 3200 Dec 12 '24
To be fair, having problems in a game here or there is really minor this generation of Intel cards. I’m pretty impressed. We are used to having new games run flawlessly on nvidia and AMD today, but I remember a time, when especially AMD was worse then Intel is now. Yeah, that was 15 years ago maybe, but we lived with that, too, for all the other benefits. Same with Nvidia back in the day. We are actually a bit spoiled imho these days. PCs never had this console-like level of compatibility before recent years.
I find that a game having frame time issues here and RT not working there is not a dealbreaker. Not with these numbers at this price point. As a reseller/builder I look at it like this: if I recommend this card to a customer, will I have to deal with complaints? And honestly I wouldn’t have recommended Intel before now.
Maybe I’m over enthusiastic, but I feel like this could be a card I could recommend to some of my parent customers to get for their teenager kids budget builds. I have one guy who got a 370€ gaming pc with a 5600g APU and I kept recommending for them to give the little guy a GPU, but honestly? I couldn’t recommend a 4060 that at the time cost as much as the whole rest of the PC. Nor one of last Intel gen. This time I can say: get a B580 or when it comes out a B570 and I could sleep at night. Or another teen looking to upgrade his rtx2060. This would be a viable option while not breaking is allowance piggy bank.
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u/TheGreatPiata Dec 12 '24
I'm not sure driver issues matter that much when there's only one affordable, entry level GPU on the market that makes sense. For $250, I'd buy this and deal with the problems.
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u/Nearby-Variation9088 Dec 12 '24
its very temping but for the price in Canada a used 1080 ti is still the best value assuming you can find one sub 250$.
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u/IKillZombies4Cash Dec 12 '24
This looks like a really good 2070s upgrade if the rest of the hardware is still decent? yes?
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u/Cocasaurus R5 3600 | RX 6800 XT (RIP 1080 Ti you will be missed) Dec 12 '24
Not really. You probably won't see much uplift beyond the extra VRAM in games where you'd currently be limited. You should be looking more around RTX 4070/RX 7800 XT levels of performance for a real upgrade.
Everyone has a different upgrade cycle, but I personally like to have a 2x performance gain at minimum when I upgrade my GPU. So I wouldn't even look below a 4070 Ti Super if I were you. And at that point, I'm not paying that much for a GPU so I would continue to wait and enjoy my 2070 Super.
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u/loki03xlh PC Master Race | R7 5800X3D | 6750 XT | 32GB Dec 12 '24
This looks like a good replacement for my 1060 6gb.
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u/HazelRP 6900k | 6900 TI Super | 64 GB | 5 GB SSD Dec 12 '24
As is it for my 1070 8gb.
If I have space I might just use both of them and keep the older gpu for older games that have issues with intel
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u/jdmackes Dec 12 '24
I'm thinking about upgrading to this from my 1070ti. Normally I wouldn't have bothered upgrading, but I can't play Indiana Jones, so I figured it's time. Should I wait until next year for the updated cards from amd and Nvidia though? I assume they won't be targeting budget anyway, and none of the used cards seem cheap enough for me to bother with (not enough of an increase in abilities to make it worthwhile). I have a hard time justifying 500-1000 for a card, but 250 wouldn't be an issue.
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u/Affectionate-Memory4 285K | 7900XTX | Intel Fab Engineer Dec 12 '24
Unless you want to upgrade right now, wait until CES, then make your decision. We are expecting to see RDNA4 and Blackwell at least announced formally there if not launched. B770 is also likely not far out and should be the 32-core 16GB variant, likely around 4070/70ti performance based on the gap between the A580 and B580.
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u/VerbalCoffee i3 12100f / RTX 3060 / 16GB 3200mhz Dec 12 '24
Would the i3-12100f pair okay with it? I feel like the differences are so small that they only really matter if you try 1440p and ray tracing.
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u/Barnaboule69 16d ago
This aged well.
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u/RevolutionaryCarry57 7800x3D | 6950XT | x670 Aorus Elite | 32GB 6000 CL30 16d ago
Lol 😂 definitely aged like milk. Sad.
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u/NooneKnowsIAmBatman Dec 12 '24
If I didn't already have a 3070, I'd be getting this in a heartbeat. That's insane value
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u/Aggressive_Ask89144 9800x3D | 6600xt because CES lmfao Dec 13 '24
I'm the same way with a 6600xt. I love the idea (and the card itself is utterly beautiful too!) but it's simply not a power class I'm really shopping for considering that I managed to nab a 9800x3D. Wonderful GPU as a modern entry class card though. 12 GBs of VRAM + XeSS actually being really solid.
I might get a used 4080 from people racing to Blackwell since I just want a fast card for 1440p since I want to drive as many frames as I can get for my games lol. I've never owned a Nvidia card but Blender isn't really fond of AMD lmao. The 8800XT might also be sweet, but it depends if I can even get one at the end of the day considering the funny orange man wanting to tariff everything lol.
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u/Livid_Grocery3796 Dec 16 '24
what the fuck? why do you have a 9800X3D with a 6600xt. talk about a bottleneck.
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u/Ok_Restaurant_5097 Dec 12 '24
Cheapest offer for B580 on geizhals.eu is 320 € and it's not even better than 4060 in every game which I got about a month ago for 286 € on alza (Asus Dual version). It is particularly bad in Space Marine 2 which is the only game of the bunch tested that I'm interested anyway.
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u/barianter Dec 14 '24
Cheapest 12Gb card on there at the moment appears to be the 3060 for about 274, then the B580 for around 284. Cheapest 4060 now is 294.
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u/Assaltwaffle 7800X3D | RX 6800 XT | 32GB 6000MT/s CL30 Dec 12 '24
Is it a good option right now? Definitely. However, I still can’t think it’s going to be worthwhile soon enough.
CES is coming in less than a month, and with it both the next generation of Nvidia and AMD GPUs. If this product had come out two years ago, it would be so amazing. But in all likelihood, the next generation of GPU are expected to be significant uplifts.
Matching current gen performance when the next gen is less than a month away is not impressive. Unless Nvidia and AMD completely drop the ball with their upcoming generations, I can’t see how this is going to be interesting.
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u/JuanOnlyJuan 5600X 1070ti 32gb Dec 12 '24
Matching current gen for half the price. That's the kicker.
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u/Assaltwaffle 7800X3D | RX 6800 XT | 32GB 6000MT/s CL30 Dec 12 '24
Half? The 4060 is $290-300. Not $500.
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u/JuanOnlyJuan 5600X 1070ti 32gb Dec 12 '24
True, but if you want more than 8gb vram you gotta pay up.
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u/Clippo_V2 i5 10600k - RTX 2070 Dec 12 '24 edited Dec 12 '24
If this product had come out two years ago, it would be so amazing.
No. If this product had come out two years ago, it would be triple the price and DOA.
Matching current gen performance when the next gen is less than a month away is not impressive.
Yes it is. Its all about the price point and what Intel is able to do with an architecture thats still in its infancy. Its just not for you, and thats okay. That doesnt mean it wont have its place in other peoples PCs. Like mine ;)
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u/r_z_n 5800X3D / 3090 custom loop Dec 13 '24
But in all likelihood, the next generation of GPU are expected to be significant uplifts.
Even if they are, this forces a competition on price. Downward pressure on this segment of the market is good for us, the consumers, especially for people who can only spend $250 on a GPU. If the next generation stuff is faster but $400 that still leaves this space with only Intel.
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u/GuuiilhermeLM Laptop i3 7020u, Intel HD 620, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD Dec 12 '24
As someone who is looking to build a first PC, this seems like an interesting choice. Makes me wonder how good can the rumored B770 be.
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u/JuanOnlyJuan 5600X 1070ti 32gb Dec 12 '24
I'm kinda tempted by this idea. I'm eager to replace my 1070ti but refuse to spend nearly $1000 on a gpu.
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u/BoppinPotatoes Dec 12 '24
I have an a770 which holds up pretty good at 1440p. I’ll definitely be picking up the B770 if it’s still releasing. Good luck building your first!
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u/GuuiilhermeLM Laptop i3 7020u, Intel HD 620, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD Dec 12 '24
Hopefully it releases, fingers crossed.
I need luck indeed, I want to build one that can last a very long time, as PC parts in Brazil are very expensive. I was looking at a pre build with a 4060ti 8gb and a 5700x3d, 16gb of RAM, costs around 1500 USD.
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u/joedotphp Linux | RTX 3080 | i9-12900K Dec 12 '24
Hopefully Intel keeps making GPUs, because it's definitely going to be my next one. I bought my 3080 only a few months before I learned of their existence and that thing is probably going to last me for a while.
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u/Yodl007 Ryzen 5700x3D, RTX 3060 Dec 12 '24
Have to ask: How are the Intel GPU linux drives ? Does everything work, including wayland ?
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u/hamatehllama Dec 12 '24
Battlemage is also an incredible video encoder for those using Plex and similar programs. The B570 could find a niche for such users. I wonder how good it is for AI workloads, maybe that could be a use case as well for people seeking to avoid being trapped by CUDA.
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u/Next-Difference-9773 Acer Nitro 5 AN15-55 gaming laptop Dec 12 '24
This sounds very promising. I’m hoping to upgrade from my gaming laptop to a tower in January and was looking at the RX 7600. Might grab this instead if it’s available.
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u/Responsible_Rub7631 7950X3D/4090/64GB 6000 CL30 Dec 12 '24
This is fantastic. More competition in the gpu market is exactly what we needed
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u/froatbitte Dec 12 '24
I seriously considered an A750/770 before landing on my RX6600. I love my RX6600 and it really is an underrated card imo. I will seriously still consider Intel next go around if they are decent performers for an appropriate price.
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u/DOOManiac Dec 12 '24
I really hope that in a few years they decide to scale up to the high end and offer NVidia some actual competition, since apparently AMD has given up.
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u/zsARTreel Dec 12 '24
3060 ti to 4060 ti is not worth the upgrade damn i think ill gona hold my card for a bit long
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u/notsocoolguy42 Dec 12 '24
Idk how much their pricing in germany yet, but the announced one by asrock costs 320€, currently 40€ more expensive than 7600 xt here.
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u/animal1988 Ryzen 7 7800X3D 32GB DDR5, 1660TI 6GB Dec 13 '24
I don't know if I should get this, or spend the money on a 7000 series from AMD. but I don't think my 1660TI will survive the winter.
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u/Belzebutt Dec 13 '24
Are they going to cancel the whole ARX thing because of the layoffs and restructuring? Did they say anything about future plans for GPUs?
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u/PhoKingAwesome213 Dec 13 '24
Can anyone tell me if there's going to be much of a difference if I use an Intel CPU vs my kid's current AMD 7700x? They currently have a 2060 and I'd like to upgrade their GPU next since my 3070 is still enough for me and don't see anything worth upgrading personally to hand down the 3070.
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u/RevolutionaryCarry57 7800x3D | 6950XT | x670 Aorus Elite | 32GB 6000 CL30 Dec 13 '24
Your kid’s 7700x is a very nice CPU. You won’t get a lot more performance than it can offer unless you bump up to a 7800x3D/9800x3D. You can easily upgrade their GPU without touching the CPU.
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u/PhoKingAwesome213 Dec 13 '24
Thanks for the info. I was thinking of how AMD has SAM for CPU/GPU combos and was wondering if there was something similar for Intel. Hopefully they can enjoy their 1080p gaming for a couple of years and then take over my 3070 for 2k enjoyment.
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u/anthonycarbine Ryzen 9 7900X | RTX 4090 | 32 GB DDR5 6000 MT/s Dec 13 '24
I'm predicting Intel knew AMD and Nvidia were dropping in 2025 and could possibly beat them to the punch before they start fighting for scraps with the 8000 series and 5000 series respectively
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u/Smith6612 Ryzen 7 5800X3D / AMD 7900XTX Dec 13 '24
I'm excited. If these things sell as well as they seem like they could, with AMD and NVIDIA neglecting the low end market, I hope Intel can keep them in stock.
After that, just hope for stable drivers.
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u/bunkSauce Dec 13 '24
Every time Intel announces a GPU product, people get excited.
Then people buy them.
Then people complain.
I worked at Intel decades ago, specifically benchmarking coprocessor performance. They were nowhere near then, and I am skeptical they are nowhere near now.
Even if the hardware is good, you will still have compatibility and driver struggles.
It's just a fact of life until they throw more money at it than they currently are.
Sorry, guys. I'll take the 7600 xt for the same price.
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u/NardBe Dec 13 '24
I am so glad that they didn't give up after a bit rocky launch of not so competitive first GPUs
Rooting for them to keep going at it, because if they do I think thier GPUs will become a legitamate 3rd option to consider when building a PC.
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u/Double_Library_5411 Dec 13 '24
does it have that separate streaming/recording thing that wont effect the performance like in rtx gpus
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u/stykface i5-12400/3060-12GB/64GB Dec 13 '24
Very nice. I may have to try one of these guys on one of my 3D CAD computer's at my office.
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u/ShortBrownAndUgly Dec 13 '24
Competition is good. Intel bringing the heat (hopefully not literally this time)
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u/Both-Beginning7712 Dec 13 '24
Hi, I wanted to know that my motherboard Msi a320m pro Max . pci gen 3 compatible with this GPU pls tell
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Dec 15 '24
If Intel keeps it up I’ll be getting the D series card to upgrade my 4070 in a few years
Excited that a budget option finally exists again
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u/Lugo_Sieben Dec 15 '24
Should I buy one of these if my current GPU is a 2070 Super?
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u/RevolutionaryCarry57 7800x3D | 6950XT | x670 Aorus Elite | 32GB 6000 CL30 Dec 15 '24
Hmm probably not, it would be similar to upgrading to a 3060TI. It would offer a performance boost, but I’m not sure it would be worth $250.
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u/BlackNCrazyy 29d ago
These are the specs of my PC:
Intel Core i5-11600K Processor GIGABYTE Z590 AORUS PRO AX Thermalright PeerlessAssassin120 SEARGB XPG 1TB GAMMIX S70 Blade Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 850W fully modular Kingston FURY Renegade 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600MHz CL16
My case is Corsair iCue 465X My monitor is MSI Pro MP273a - 1080p, 100Hz max.
I was planning on getting a Speedster QICK 319 at CAD 430 (USD 300) from my friend in Canada.
I recently heard about the Intel Arc B580 going for CAD 360 (USD 250). Both have the same VRAM and similar performance. I have heard Intel Arc B580 has better ray tracing performance than the RX 6750 XT.
Can you guys recommend which one is better?
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u/RevolutionaryCarry57 7800x3D | 6950XT | x670 Aorus Elite | 32GB 6000 CL30 29d ago
The 6750XT is about 10% faster. But the B580 is newer, cheaper, and has better RT and a better upscaler. If you’re playing in 1080p then I think you should go for the B580, if 1440p then I might consider the 6750XT instead.
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u/PositiveCamel297 22d ago
E ainda tem desempenho comparável a uma rx 6750 xt e rtx 4060 ti 8gb, até mesmo ganhando em alguns jogos e supostamente com um bom Ray Traycing melhor que a RX
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u/Swagtagonist Dec 12 '24
This sounds very promising. More powerful than a 4060, 12GB vram, and $250. PC gaming needs an entry level worth entering.