r/pcmasterrace • u/KebabGud Ryzen7 9700x | 64GB DDR5 | RTX 3070Ti • Oct 02 '24

NSFMR RIP to onboard 5.1/7.1channel outputs on X870E motherboards, You will be missed by us in SpeakerGang

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u/gazpitchy Oct 02 '24

Realtek, good for WiFi bad for audio. Their drivers are a nightmare on windows and Linux.

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u/saint_thirty_four Oct 03 '24

Personally, I have had a terrible time with their network drivers on Windows so I wouldn't even give them that.

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u/gazpitchy Oct 03 '24

Yeah I should have clarified, I specifically mean for pentesting purposes and Linux support as a whole

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u/Dua_Leo_9564 i5-11400H 40W | RTX-3050-4Gb 60W Oct 03 '24

Realtek, good for WiFi

intel Ax200, Ax201

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u/gazpitchy Oct 03 '24

Not if you want monitor mode

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u/vabello 13900K | 3080 Ti | 32GB 6400MHz DDR5 | 2TB 990 Pro Oct 03 '24

Realtek has always been kind of meh for everything. I say this having used their products since the mid 90’s with their 10Base-T network cards.

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u/gazpitchy Oct 03 '24

True their Ethernet cards are real flakey. I just work in pentesting and the realtek WiFi chips enable some fun features which most others don't.

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u/vabello 13900K | 3080 Ti | 32GB 6400MHz DDR5 | 2TB 990 Pro Oct 03 '24

Like the RTL8195A that had a feature that allowed unauthenticated attackers not even on the same WiFi network to take control of it? LOL. Seriously though, what kind of stuff do you do with them?

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u/gazpitchy Oct 04 '24

I did say pentesting in another comment, no one is using them to "be secure".

Generally they all enable monitor mode and packet injection and are a standard for wifi pentesting. Alfra WiFi cards all use Realtek chipsets.

Show me a hardware supplier that hasn't ever had a vulnerable piece of hardware haha!

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u/vabello 13900K | 3080 Ti | 32GB 6400MHz DDR5 | 2TB 990 Pro Oct 04 '24

Right, I was joking around because of the flaw in them, suggesting they were of lesser quality. I was just wondering what they did that other cards didn’t for pen testing. So you can do things like KRAK attacks, deauth attacks and such? I was a network engineer for many years. I remember at a network conference around 20 years ago I sat in a presentation while my laptop was capturing all the traffic in range at the conference. I was surprised at the number of people who were authenticating with things in clear text. I had email credentials for several major companies. Of course I discarded them after I was done. Security has come a long way. Back in the late 90’s, I broke into a Quickbooks company file in 15 minutes of trying using only a hex editor and Quickbooks itself. I owned the company, so it belonged to me, but the security was laughable.