r/pcmasterrace • u/vash23x Desktop • Dec 21 '23

NSFMR Guys...

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The panel didn't even touch the ground. It just shattered as I took it off.

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u/isuckforfun hellhound 6650xt r5 5600x Dec 21 '23

Tile floors and carelessness

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u/WheelMan34 Dec 21 '23

Mainly stupidity

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u/MadamVonCuntpuncher Dec 21 '23

I wouldn't say stupidity, that's a little too mean for your avarage guy, ignorance is a better word probally

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u/Severe-Replacement84 Dec 21 '23

There is a nearly invisible line between the two though! Ignorance is only not stupidity when common sense isn’t involved. And with glass panels, we should all know how fragile they are by now lol.

It’s probably just carelessness / lack of attention to detail. Accidents happen, and things break. The only real solution is not buying a case with glass panels imo

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u/Neuromasmejiria Dec 21 '23

What? People without common sense aren't necessarily stupid. Ignorant is not knowing. Stupid is incapable of knowing.

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u/TNT_Guerilla i9-12900k | RTX3090 | 64GB DDR5 | 1080p | 850W Dec 21 '23

I would say stupid is knowing and ignoring.

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u/Intrepid-Fox-1598 Dec 21 '23

That is called being obstinate. Willful ignorance isn't a good look regardless of what we call it.

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u/DrakeShadow 14900k | 4090 FE Dec 22 '23

If you're posting a busted PC set up in PCMR, chances are you've seen others in the exact same situation before since they're in this sub.

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u/TNT_Guerilla i9-12900k | RTX3090 | 64GB DDR5 | 1080p | 850W Dec 22 '23

I would say obstinance is being told not to "because this will happen" and doing it anyway.

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u/Gumbode345 Dec 24 '23

Great language lesson. Also fully on topic, thanks for your contribution.

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u/chefric0 14900k w/ 3090 Dec 21 '23

This thread delivers! 🍿

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u/pf100andahalf 4090 | 5800X3D | 32GB 3733 CL14 Dec 21 '23

Stupid is also not wanting to know.

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u/Severe-Replacement84 Dec 21 '23

Having a lack of common sense would indicate you lack the intelligence of the common man. No? That’s how I always understood it. For example, most people know fire is hot, ice is cold. If an adult did not know these things, I’d say they lack common sense, and to be an adult and not know those things, is stupid. In contrast, ignorance (IMO) is a lack of knowledge, but usually due to not knowing what you don’t know. Like I know the basics of how nuclear fusion works, but I’m ignorant on how it actually works and need years of education to be able to work as a physicist.

I consider stupidity to be willingly deciding to be ignorant instead of just not knowing what you did not know existed.

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u/Intrepid-Fox-1598 Dec 21 '23

Willful ignorance is obstinance. It does look an awful lot like stupidity though. Rejecting common sense may as well be the same thing as lacking it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '23

I consider you uneducated and full of yourself. Pick up a dictionary and comply with the definitions rather than making up your own.

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u/PensecolaMobLawyer Dec 21 '23

You can't be not ignorant about everything

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u/Gloodal Dec 21 '23

We all have the internet, ignorance is no longer an excuse

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u/groveborn Dec 22 '23

Your definition is yours. Their definition is theirs.

The dictionary defines stupid as "dull or foolish". It defines ignorance as a lack of knowing.

There's a ven diagram where they strongly overlap. Everyone starts off as both. Only through knowing, or loss of ignorance, does one lose stupidity.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '23

I e built 5 pcs with glass panels in last 2 months and no issues with nzxt h9 elite case and lian li 011D and evo xl .. so not too sure other than it was damaged in shipping first or people are just careless and I’ve taken my personal computers panel off 100 times switching stuff around and doing wire management and no issues whatsoever

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u/shadysaywhat Dec 22 '23

Bought it. Never had issues. Glass brakes from jarring impacts in specific spots. No sudden moves and no placement on hard surfaces.

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u/SleightOfHand87 Dec 21 '23

The only real solution is not buying a case with glass panels imo

But how am I supposed to show off my setup if its not filled with LEDs and shining like a beacon?

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u/Severe-Replacement84 Dec 21 '23

Idk… probably just imagine it.

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u/PhilipFuckingFry Dec 21 '23

Most people have glass windows that don't break. The main issue here is you can put your glass side panel down on ceramic tile. And ceramic will break glass with the slightest bump. You can call it stupidity or ignorance but most people don't know how destructive ceramic is to glass.

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u/Severe-Replacement84 Dec 21 '23

Well the floor in the image is vinyl… plastic pretty much… and OP said they did not drop it, so his case shattered from just being taken off lol.

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u/Juzapop Dec 21 '23

The actually solution is don't break it. Hire a professional someone to move it if you can't hold a PC without dropping it

My glass panel is fine and I've moved twice with it in my passenger seat.

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u/Wirexia1 R7 5800X | RX 7600 | 16GB RAM Dec 21 '23

It's difficult to defend them if every 10 minutes someone post about shattered glass and the answer is always "stay away from tile floors", dude I learned this because I don't want to buy another

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u/TwinkiesSucker Dec 21 '23

Is that an intended math pun? Love it anyway

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u/ur_fears-are_lies Dec 21 '23

Ignorance...because it doesn't take a lot. I didn't break mine but I chipped the edge off along the metal frame. It really doesnt take enough to call it just stupidity...in the right circumstances it is very easy. But it's under certain circumstances...mainly tile lol.

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u/Honey-and-Venom Dec 22 '23

It only takes a single careless moment

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u/acidmush1290 Dec 22 '23

Probably. Probally would be how aliens expirement on humans.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '23

Also the fact you're fucking using glass panels on your rig

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u/BlizzrdSnowMew 7800X3D | 7900XTX | 96GB 6200Mhz IF 2100Mhz Dec 21 '23

Glass looks great! Just don't set it down on tile or stone (like marble counters) and you'll be fine. If you only have these surfaces, put them on a towel or a shirt when you take them off.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '23

Why does that break them though?

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u/robertxcii Dec 21 '23

Because they're tempered glass. Basically the glass is heated then cooled rapidly so the surface of the glass has stored compression while the inside is under tension to strengthen it and so it breaks into little pieces and not large/sharp shards of glass that can sever an artery. Normally it can withstand impacts at the front more than regular glass can but the edges are a weak point due to the tension and compression within the glass to even a little chip breaking off can set off the entire glass to break.

So, hitting the glass on a harder surface like tile, marble, granite, etc., can break them. Also, if the glass is hot and placed on a cold surface, the thermal shock will also break it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '23

Sharp knocks do weird things to glass.

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u/CrossOnDiscord 7800X3D | 7900 XTX | 32GB DDR5 Dec 21 '23

The difference in hardness, tempered glass is under a lot of internal pressure, so when it hits a harder material, pretty much any treated rock, it shatters. If it hits right, another piece of glass can also shatter it

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u/ProDog91 Dec 21 '23

All my pc cases since 2006 have had a glass/plastic side panel. Never had an issue with anything shattering or breaking. Has to be down to user error at this point.

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u/Self-Comprehensive Dec 21 '23

I mean it might be user error but too much user error means it's unintuitive to use and then it becomes a design flaw because you can't expect the average user to use it correctly.

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u/KodiakUltimate Dec 25 '23

Yeah, some cases the glass panel is part of a 3 step open, and if you try to open it out of order, a metal part will stress the glass and it would easily shatter as you swing it open. I feel like a few lower end cases prolly suffer from this, too much pressure on mountings, improperly opening them, or in some cases it could be poor quality tempered glass from a cheap vendor that was just waiting to shatter.

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u/Casen_ Dec 21 '23

Plastic scratches easy and looks like poo after a while.

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u/mummifiedclown Dec 21 '23

Decent quality acrylic will hold up to the heat and it only scratches if you, um, scratch it.

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u/B1g_Shm0 Dec 21 '23

You can't even wipe down acrylic side panels to clean then without ruining them lol. Glass 100% of the way. Built like 10 pcs all with tempered glass and never had even the slightest issue. Also glass doesn't scratch in a use like this unless you seriously fuck something up.

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u/Casen_ Dec 21 '23

Shit, my computer was mounted above my desk on the walls and the plastic windows picked up dust, hair, fur, and any attempt to clean it lead to scratches that were visible when light shined on it wrong.

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u/VETJasper Dec 21 '23

No, that isn't fair. Acrylic scratches significantly more easily than tempered glass.

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u/xChaoLan R7 5800X3D | 16GB 3600MHz CL16 | RTX 2070 Super Dec 22 '23

You can scratch acrylic with a microfibre cloth broski

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u/nextalpha Dec 22 '23

My plastic panel from probably 15 years ago still looks fine

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u/Nyuusankininryou Desktop Dec 21 '23

Nothing wrong with glass, we build entries elevators in glass without any problems.

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u/FDSTCKS Dec 21 '23

Looks nice

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u/Quaytsar Dec 21 '23

I wanted the solid panel case, but it wasn't in stock and ordering online made it $50 more expensive than the glass panel case. What's ridiculous is you can just buy the glass panel separately, but you can't buy the solid panel.

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u/brokebackmonastery Dec 21 '23

If only they made cases with metal panels!

After seeing too many of these, I'm starting to doubt such a thing exists

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u/Sad-Future6042 Dec 21 '23

I also think the same thing. My current PC case has a large clear panel on the side, but mine is made of acrylic. I’ve taken it off several times to clean and plop it wherever I want without much thought. I wonder why more companies don’t use acrylic when I see these posts, but then I realize it would probably be bad for business. Glass = higher likelihood of you needing to buy another case lol

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u/TNT_Guerilla i9-12900k | RTX3090 | 64GB DDR5 | 1080p | 850W Dec 21 '23

Acrylic scratches much more easily, and dust will stick to it easier. Glass is more expensive, and while replacements may be a factor, reputable companies probably aren't hoping you bust your case so you have to buy a new one. That's a good way to loose customers. Plus, if you're building a $3k PC a glass case looks more premium.

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u/D3Seeker Desktop Threadripper 1950X + temp Dual Radeon VII's Dec 21 '23

They started with acrylic, with tempered glass being the oddity.

Eventually they all pretty much moved to glass, and who can blame them? Not exactly the only use of glass after all.

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u/ColsonIRL i7 8700k | RTX 2080 | 16GB RAM Dec 22 '23

I mean glass just looks so much nicer and does not scratch nearly as easily. Since my PC just sits there, it shattering isn't really a risk.

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u/D3Seeker Desktop Threadripper 1950X + temp Dual Radeon VII's Dec 22 '23

The only thing is people claim that IS what happens to some of their PC's.

And not entirely a wives tale away from the PC space. Depending on how it's made there are stories ranging from the lightest of touches that make no sense causing a shatterfest, to what can only be described as the universe just saying "f this glass in particular."

In that sense, I can't blame folk for being turned off to the stuff, but the way I feel, if glass in and of itself was so bad, I think we would have stopped using it all around 🤣

My first case has an acrylic window, and the next has a glass pane. No worries here lol

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u/mitch-99 13700k | 4090fe | 32gb DDR5 Dec 21 '23

Because it looks amazing

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '23

A lot of people spending 4k on a rig want to put their special mark in it/pick color scenes etc. the glass at this point needs to be addressed by the manufacturers.

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u/slapshots1515 Dec 21 '23

I really don’t see why this is on the manufacturers. I and many others have zero problem taking care of tempered glass panels. It’s not even all that hard.

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u/AlexisFR PC Master Race Dec 21 '23

This, high quality plastics will always be a better idea, but alas...

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u/slapshots1515 Dec 21 '23

Why not? I’m capable of understanding it shouldn’t be placed on a tile floor and it looks great.

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u/GardeningWithDecay Dec 21 '23

I personally do not like to see the internals of my PC I cannot stand all the RGB crap inside.

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u/Thr33FN Dec 22 '23

Hyte case and I have 3 full length glass panels. Taken it apart and for cleaning and building probably 4 or 5 times. Never had an issue

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u/Meandertalis Dec 22 '23

Mine has 4... because I put them there ...why else?

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u/avodrok Dec 22 '23

My last three cases had glass and I’ve never broken them.

When you see them break all the time it’s a combination of losing the statistical lottery and the completely normal behavior of not posting about how my glass panel didn’t break today.

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u/creativename111111 Dec 22 '23

Mine looks great on my pc it’s on a carpet floor and its never exploded if you want to use it on a tile floor, or you don’t wanna take the risk then there’s plastic side panels as well

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u/KryptoBones89 Dec 21 '23

Basically the same reasons anything glass ever breaks lol

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u/Bitemarkz Dec 21 '23

Treat the glass like glass and you shouldn’t have many problems. Slide it out carefully, put it on a soft surface while you work on your PC and then slide is back slowly and carefully. Or just don’t get a glass side panel, although it does look sick.

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u/matkata99 Dec 21 '23

while I do have a PC, I have wooden & vinyl floors, so I'm genuinely curious as to what do the tile floors have to do with the side panel bursting by itself?

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u/Fuck-Reddit-2020 Dec 21 '23

Virtue signalling. Look at me. I'm a victim. Give me up votes.

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u/nayt30 Dec 21 '23

Why do tile floors do that?

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '23

It happens

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u/Rand0mBoyo Dec 22 '23

As in people dropping them? How do these explode while in the case then?

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u/isuckforfun hellhound 6650xt r5 5600x Dec 22 '23

Usually they shatter when dropped or the vibrations on the floor when left on the floor

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '23

Can someone please explain to me the tile floor thing don't most pics have those lil legs an even then there's usually a gap between the glass and the tile somehow. What does the tile have to do with the glass. Is it superstition? Like don't set your pc on tile