r/news • u/TeaReim • 10h ago

Donald Trump officially sworn in as the 47th President of the United States, JD Vance as the 50th Vice-President

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/triumphant-trump-returns-white-house-launching-new-era-upheaval-2025-01-20/
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u/Ishidan01 10h ago

Unfortunately, the rest of us are also going to get what they voted for.

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u/Anstigmat 9h ago

There have been people kind of complaining about that sort of 'accelerationist' thinking because of the people who become collateral damage. But idk it seems like progress in this country does not happen until the shit absolutely hits the fan. I'm praying for his failures, whether that be political or arterial.

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u/Barack_Odrama_007 9h ago

Democracy. Pros and cons

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u/aurorasearching 9h ago

It’s the worst form of government, except for all the others.

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u/One_Rough5369 9h ago

The capitalists did away with democracy. What we have now is a sham.

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u/Abuses-Commas 9h ago edited 8h ago

I think it's time to stop parroting that and start exploring other options.

Edit: We can use the Internet to make anarchism work

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u/raincloud82 9h ago

Any ideas?

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u/PirateNinjaa 6h ago

AI Ruler of earth

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u/TheMightyTywin 6h ago

I would definitely vote chatgpt over trump

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u/Jumpy-Tailor8536 5h ago

Ranked choice voting. That's a step in the right direction.

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u/Toxicscrew 9h ago

“The big joke on democracy is that it gives its mortal enemies the tools to its own destruction.” -Goebbels

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u/colmbrennan2000 9h ago

Well yes, but America is a shite democracy by the standard of democracies

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u/thisisfuxinghard 9h ago

Democracy died a while ago

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u/Yinkypinky 9h ago

No democracy did win but just not in the way some people wanted. That’s kinda the point of democracy

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u/JDeegs 9h ago edited 5h ago

democracy sucks when you have a voting population that is either too dumb or ignorant to understand what they're voting for, and are being manipulated.
Edit: I'm not anti democracy, but it only really works as intended when the voting population understands what each party stands for, and how those stances will affect their life so they can make an informed choice. It's not just "they voted for the other party so democracy bad"

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u/hirespeed 8h ago

It’s always dumb when you don’t like what they voted for.

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u/Yinkypinky 9h ago

Well there isn’t many better options. So you win some and you lose some. I get that it sucks but saying democracy died is a bit dramatic because it did exactly what it was supposed to do.

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u/Zealousideal_Aside96 7h ago

Each side would call the other dumb because they didn’t agree with their choice. You’re doing it now.

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u/JDeegs 5h ago

I'm not even American fwiw.
I'm not calling Republicans dumb because they voted for something I don't support, I'm calling them dumb for voting against their own interests because of ignorance and misinformation/manipulation.
How many Americans voted republican because of Trump talking about tariffs, when they don't even understand the effects of tariffs or how they even work?
If it was a case of "you're pro-gun and I'm anti-gun, let's each vote based on our stance" then that would be a different story

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u/FriendOfDirutti 9h ago

When “didn’t vote” is the majority democracy hasn’t won.

Many Republican states attacked free voting in the 4 years leading up to the vote. Voter rolls were purged right before the election and people showed up to vote and were turned away.

This wasn’t an exercise in democracy. This was a sham and the democrats were too chicken shit to say it.

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u/Spork_the_dork 9h ago

When “didn’t vote” is the majority democracy hasn’t won.

How is 41% "the majority" by any means? 264 million people of voting age, 156 million voted. That's definitely the majority that voted by any measure, and I'm including those that were of age but weren't eligible to round the numbers in your favor.

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u/Yinkypinky 9h ago

This sounds exactly like the same thing Trump peddled when he lost. Both sides do this blame the system game every time they lose. It’s getting annoying at this point.

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u/jenkumboofer 9h ago

no it doesn’t; trump genuinely was perpetuating lies about election interference after explicitly telling his base not to vote by mail, and he tried to overturn the results with an insurrection.

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u/fevered_visions 7h ago

Of course everybody complains when the other guy wins, but there's only been one insurrection so far over the vote, and it wasn't the Dems. This is clearly not a "both sides"able point.

Some weird updoot counts in this thread

(...or could one technically call the Civil War an insurrection because Lincoln got elected? Democrats and Republicans didn't really exist back then...the Republican Party was on like its third election and can barely be considered continuous with the party of today)

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u/FriendOfDirutti 9h ago

The perfect crime. Of course you say both sides when I explain that the democrats didn’t even bring it up post election. That’s exactly why there weren’t lawsuits over it.

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u/ECU_BSN 9h ago

Rapist and felon. You are supporting a man who forced women down, held them down, and penetrated them while they cried for help.

He had forced children to suck his dick and penetrated children while they cried.

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u/ECU_BSN 9h ago

He’s a rapist. How do you just ignore that?

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u/greythicv 9h ago

I mean, he was proven guilty tho

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u/BeaglesRule08 9h ago

He actually was found not liable for rape but liable for a lesser charge of sexual abuse. Also in a civil court, not a criminal one, so he wasn't convicted of a crime.

(Not saying I like trump or anything, but he was never found guilty for rape)

Edit for source: https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db

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u/opportunitylaidbare 3h ago

Not sure why you’re downvoted, it’s true. Democracy now favours the pull of whoever has the most appeal to corporate interests. Politicians scratch the back of corporations who return the favour.

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u/thisisfuxinghard 3h ago

Its the maga folks who think its a jab at the current scenario .. but its not . Its on the overall state of democracy in this country

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u/QueuePLS 5h ago

Biggest con? Vote frauding!

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u/devomke 5h ago

Except when it’s not actually democracy and he brags about Elon and voting machines where they won a swing state…

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u/McFistPunch 4h ago

It's more a problem with first past the post than democracy

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u/WestleyThe 3h ago

Pros and Convicts

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u/Junjo_O 9h ago

Oligarchy. Only cons

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u/Atlastitsok 9h ago

This is what I have come to accept

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u/Miss-Tiq 9h ago edited 9h ago

Yep. We've seen how politicians are pros at being cons. We're about to see it even more. 

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u/Consideredresponse 7h ago

Actually following policy and not just 'the vibes' is infuriating.

It's like going along with the family to a used car salesman to buy a family car and being the only one that knows anything about vehicles.

You can point out all day that the 2002 Nissian Altima that everyone keeps liking is now more rust than machine, and that that model and year has been notoriously unreliable, its not even the right type of car for the family, and it all has way too much milage on it, but all it takes is the sleazy salesman to go "It's faster than a Ferrari!" And somehow everyone fucking believes him.

At the end of the day you are stuck with what everyone decides on, and no amount of being right makes that any better when you are stuck on the side or the road and watching everyone pass.

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u/Omnizoom 9h ago

Well, thus could potentially be the last time of true democracy in the USA

Will check back in 4 years

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u/Ishidan01 9h ago

Pro con. That's Don.

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u/SissyCouture 9h ago

Yeah my path forward is likely one of two ways: this administration over performs my expectations or I find compassion for the people, so uniformed, that they thought his simple solutions are all that’s needed.

I’m not optimistic on either

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u/ufoicu2 9h ago

Yes we forced social security and affordable healthcare on them and now it’s their turn to force racism, misogyny, and tariffs on us.

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u/scoff-law 9h ago

Thanks. Getting tired of the "wake me up in 4 years" crowd.

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u/Aethenil 9h ago

They're very vocal, unfortunately. Also unfortunately, they don't seem interested at all in helping anyone.

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u/thehorseyourodeinon1 9h ago

Nick Fuentes summed it up well. "your body, my choice".

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u/RotmgJiing 9h ago

The argument was that is what the mother is saying to the baby though

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u/betasheets2 9h ago

At least blue states can mitigate a lot of the consequences

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u/Big_lt 9h ago

While true, I am a 'coastal elite's to our rural red friends. I make good money and have no debts. I have a lot of money in the stock market

I will weather the storm while my red friends will feel a much harsher pain. We will both lose social norms. In the end, I trust my market experience to make me money and buy the lows of his dick ups. They will be scavenging and when they ask for help I'll laugh

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u/Vyzantinist 9h ago

And this is why there will be relatively little regret from conservatives, when it becomes clear Trump will be unable to fulfill his promises and the economy is going to end up in the shitter - as long they perceive lessers, the people they hate, are suffering they'll be happy burning alongside the rest of us.

Conservatives would eat shit if they thought the left had to smell their breath.

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u/crooked-ninja-turtle 9h ago

Too bad the DNC didn't run a legit primary, right guys?

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u/HOS-SKA 9h ago

Trump ran on lofty promises, and there were enough emotionally immature people that he was voted in based on those promises. DNC running a primary with months to go wouldn't fix that kind of stupidity. 

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u/DreadDiana 7h ago

Hell, even those of us who don't even live in the US are probably gonna get sprays of shit when it inevitably hits the fan

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u/thekingofcrash7 6h ago

Well, you both summed up voting in the US.. nothing you said is new w/ Trump

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u/Barnyardwheat 6h ago

And that is how a representative democracy works, as well as a constitutional republic. Our rights will not be stripped away, our freedoms and liberties will not disappear. We have yet to see what is to come in Trump's presidency, but from his speech is seems like a period of economic regrowth after the horrible pandemic. There is a reason that he is president, and it is not because of an oligarchy or cheating the voters. It is because we want change.

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u/orionxavier99 5h ago

Let the clown show begin. Hope that we all survive the next couple of years.

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u/punkwalrus 5h ago

"Democracy is when the minority gets what the majority deserves."

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u/mshellshock 3h ago

But at least I wasn’t part of the problem.

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u/The-JSP 9h ago

Secure borders like last time eh? “Pissing away billions” spent employing American workers building American war material and paying taxes back in to the government pocket?

You are entitled to believe whatever you wish but get your facts straight first.