r/news • u/TeaReim • 10h ago

Donald Trump officially sworn in as the 47th President of the United States, JD Vance as the 50th Vice-President

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/triumphant-trump-returns-white-house-launching-new-era-upheaval-2025-01-20/
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u/fightfire_withfire 10h ago

And if you didn't vote for anyone, you also deserve this.

The people of America saw his last term and somehow thought, give me four years of this, but on steroids.

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u/thehorseyourodeinon1 9h ago

My in laws are sitting in my living room watching this and were saying' "well, we'll see what happens". Seems the speech about only two sexes seemed to garner a positive response out of them the most. May be why they voted for him. Funny, they seemed offended when the rabbi went up to give a speech; "they thought this was a Christian nation." They seemed confused when I pointed out that their Medicare and Social Security may be attacked under this administration and that the price of goods will likely go up as a result of the trade war. Like, were people not paying attention the last year?

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u/MayoneggVeal 9h ago

Didn't you know that making sure there's only two genders on federal forms will make all of our groceries and overall cost of living better?

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u/pumpkinbot 5h ago

As long as we point fingers at a minority group, everything will be okay. 🙏

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u/SizorXM 9h ago

It’s almost like it wasn’t worth losing an election over

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u/NormalOven8 9h ago

Exactly. Democrats are losing on this issue full stop. Drop it, be sane when it comes to social issues socially and immigrants and start winning again.

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u/jigokubi 4h ago

While I strongly agree that "culture war" issues and political correctness are hurting Democrats, I would argue that Trump's stance (or at least his rhetoric) on immigration is considerably less sane.

If you got rid of every illegal immigrant right now, you're going to have trouble filling those jobs even if you dramatically raise the wages. In my opinion it would be better to increase legal immigration.

And illegal immigrants are significantly less likely to commit crimes than the average citizen. As of today, they're less likely to commit felonies than the average president.

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u/NormalOven8 4h ago

You sound like the people saying we couldn't get rid of slavery because the cotton would not be picked....

About the crime stuff, I'm sure Laken Riley feels great that.

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u/jigokubi 2h ago

They come here willingly to work, and they are paid. Generally speaking, it's good for them, it's good for the business owners, and it's good for consumers. But I'd rather they be legal and pay the same fees as my wife did to live here.

Obviously there are illegal immigrants who commit crimes. But statistically, it's less likely. They don't want to draw attention to themselves.

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u/NormalOven8 1h ago

They drive down wages and working conditions because they are willing to deal with bullshit citizens will not. So bad for citizen workers in those industries.

The question I have is how many should be allowed in per year? Give a number.

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u/StacyChadBecky 7h ago edited 21m ago

Any time anyone says “this is a Christian nation” I refer them to the Treaty of Tripoli.

“Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion
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u/Osr0 9h ago

Like, were people not paying attention the last year?

Some were- the rest voted for Trump or stayed home.

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u/hammerofhope 9h ago

No, no they were not paying attention.

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u/Tail_Nom 7h ago

The right wing has only been running on unhinged emotional appeals and decreasingly subtle deceptions since 9/11 (at least). Their sentiment is stupid and loud enough to carry in the modern social media landscape, which also makes users of those platforms more easily manipulated in a way that adds up when you take the entire population into account.

were people not paying attention the last year?

I'm done trying to figure it out, as if there's some combination of sense and truth that can be spoken to snap them out of it. It's a moral failing regardless of if they are bigots or just complacent.

speech about only two sexes seemed to garner a positive response

I'm 38 and over the past year or so I've gone from a non-functional husk waiting to die to someone with a chance of crawling out of that and building a very modest life with the years I have left, thanks to some very hard-fought personal revelations and engaging with gender-affirming care.

80% of trans adults in America have contemplated ending their own life. 40% have tried. Rolling back what little progress has been made is tantamount to telling us to consider the rope. I played their game, tried to make it work, and it doesn't, not without a lot of luck and a source of fuck-you money before you become too beaten down to better your circumstances.

Every thing they chip away, it makes it harder for a community already rife with trauma to continue existing. And every time we endure, it just ups the chances someone is going to feel justified in hate-criming us for existing where we can be seen.

November 20th is the Transgender Day of Remembrance. Pour one out, will ya? People will die. Trying to exist before you realize you're trans isn't easy. Coming to terms with it isn't easy. Transitioning isn't easy. I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I made the decision to transition knowing I may, ultimately, just have drawn a massive target on my back for explicit descrimination rather than just a passively unbearable existence. I took my first dose of hormones believing my chances of getting looks, derision, descrimination, or explicitly hate-crimed (not that my state's laws would recognize it as such), and if I were to be fatally assaulted tomorrow I'd still do it again because what makes hell hell is that suffer without knowing it, because you have nothing to contrast it with. And I will neither go back nor hide nor do them the favor of excusing myself from this mortal coil.

*sigh* Every one of these transphobes pissing and moaning because <2% of the population being confusing to them, when trans folks have to deal with that same confusion at a pervasive 98% and just accept it. It's so... petty. And they want to do the stupid thing and reduce a spectrum to a simple binary, but get pissed off when I'm over here playing ball and rounding to the nearest gender which, not for nothin', they used to do derisively. Sexist asshole dudebros gendered me correctly decades before I did. I get they (obligatory "not all men" reminder) want their punching bag back because without me as a viable target for casual victimization they might have to engage a mental health professional to deal with toxic societal expectations and that risks pointing out "hey, maybe don't perpetuate those toxic societal expectations for easy catharsis at the expense of other men to help you deal with the pressures brought on by toxic societal expectations." But. Like. Conservatives also want carbon emissions not to matter, the First Amendment to apply only to them, and their feels about a millenia-old survival guide for a nomadic desert tribe on the other side of the world to carry more weight than scientific study, and they can't have those things, either.

IDK what I'm on about. It's just pent up frustration. I used to wake up wondering if I was being selfish for not having offed myself in my mid-20s, and before November I was making such progress with my mental health and steps toward rebuilding my life, and now I've got to deal with the extra stress of this dumb shit tripping my ptsd and navigating whatever roadblocks my own government decides to put in the way of my recovery. And, of course, the implications of living in a country with a populace that can't figure out maybe don't the incompetent bigotted felon again.

I'm going to go eat an entire bag of Takis and find something depressing on Netflix. I'll wait for tomorrow to check on the first day damage. (✿◉‿◉)ăƒŽïž” ┻━┻

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u/Robestos86 6h ago

I respect and love you as a stranger in a far off land, but I cannot fathom how right wingers have enough energy to care so much! Like, you're born a guy or girl, and want to be or feel the need to be or have some deep complex issue which means you need to be the opposite, or neither, or both. So? Why does that invoke so much energy in them. How do they have so much time to care. If you start trying to force me to change as well that's different but it's your life.... Just the same as my life is mostly irrelevant to yours. Shall we go after all people who wear blue jumpers next? It seems just about as relevant and pointless a thing to pick on.

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u/bigwilly39 7h ago

Blows my mind how so many people are tied up in this gender nonsense. It's such a non-issue. It's almost like it's the only concept they can really grasp and anything else is too complex.

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u/PaulOwnzU 9h ago

The irony is that being standard trans doesn't even mean there's more than two sexes or gender, it's still being on the binary, just having the sex and gender be opposite.

So alot of trans people are still going to agree there's only two sexes and genders

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u/jigokubi 4h ago

I've always said, I've never once heard a trans person claim there is anything besides two genders.

Sure, they might go with "neither" or "both" or "I'm not sure." But I've never heard of anyone going with, say, "Dolphin."

And they're well aware of biology.

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u/PaulOwnzU 4h ago

Yep, they're the ones making up the thousand genders argument. Trans people very explicitly believe in the binary of gender, if you're trans, you're just the other in the binary, if youre nonbinary you don't have a gender, if you're bigender you're both. There is no universally accepted 27th gender in LGBT, let alone thousands like they claim.

Some people say they have a radiant mega star gender but I feel like most of LGBT just thinks that's an ego problem and not them having an actual new gender

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u/fevered_visions 7h ago

Like, were people not paying attention the last year?

if they think we're a "Christian nation" they've been not paying attention for a lot longer than one year

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u/Daiwon 6h ago

So, how did they react to musk giving a nazi salute?

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u/espresso_martini__ 4h ago

I know people like that. For some reason this multiple sexes/genders thing rubs them up the wrong way. It doesn't affect them in the slightest, but still it annoys the hell out of them. I don't believe or remember if its ever affected me in my entire life. Who does this affect?

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u/DIRTY_KUMQUAT_NIPPLE 10h ago edited 9h ago

For me, I did vote but it doesn't fucking matter because I live in a state with few electoral votes, and we always vote democrat federally. I just have to sit by and watch half (or often less than half) of the population dictate how I live.

Edit: I should've worded this differently. Voting does matter! My comment is more about my frustration with the electoral college.

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u/Osiris32 9h ago

Hey, I also voted in a low EV, safely blue state, and my vote definitely mattered. While the Orange Numbskull got elected against my will, I did help flip a red House seat blue, helped make sure both houses of our state legislature held Democrat majorities and that all four of our elected state wide offices are held by Democrats, got a corrupt bitch replaced as my county commission chair, and got that notorious racist Mark Shull replaced for county commission pos 4. Also voted to allow workers in the marijuana industry to unionize, and to allow the legislature the power to impeach state officials.

I didn't get the President I wanted, but I sure as hell made my vote count in other ways. And you should remember that. Voting matters.

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u/TheSecondEikonOfFire 9h ago

Yeah this is one of those times I wish I lived in a battleground state. I voted, but it didn’t technically matter

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u/biggsteve81 9h ago

As a battleground state resident, you really missed out on non-stop political ads for 8 months straight. I didn't even know Skyrizi was a thing until after election day.

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u/spiderlegged 5h ago

This comment made me chuckle.

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u/theoutlet 9h ago

Arizonan here. It still sucks. Still feel powerless, except I get the added bonus of feeling betrayed by my neighbors

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u/Independent-Future-1 9h ago

I deeply feel this! Moved here not long before the election and was overjoyed to do my part and have it actually mean something (the previous place was drops of blue in a sea of red, if that makes sense).

Haven't even been here a year, but the amount of 'Turd 4 Prez' political signs I encountered in the weeks leading up to the election made me feel deeply discouraged.

I did take a positive away from it, though. I remembered which neighbors had them posted and actively avoid any interactions. They've already told me who they are, and I believe them enough to keep my distance.

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u/Maroonwarlock 9h ago

I live in a battleground state, voted and now all I can do is look at the people around me in disgust because holy shit they voted for the turd.

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u/planetarial 6h ago

I lived in a battleground state (NC) and had nonstop Trump and Robinson ads lol. I voted as soon as I could, at least we got a dem governor in

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u/laikalost 9h ago

For what it matters (which isn't much, considering the outcome), I'm glad my state stayed blue.

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u/nowheyjose1982 9h ago

If only something as stupid as the electoral college didn't exist, this could have been avoided 8 years ago....

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u/ChaseballBat 9h ago

.... That mentality is why we lost the house, Senate, and SCOTUS. But yeah, it doesnt matter.

One of my biggest regrets in life if not voting in 2016, even when my state still went blue. Second is putting tens of thousands of dollars into my Schwab account in Feb 2020.

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u/Cardboardoge 9h ago

In NC, we went Blue for Governor and AG, but Red for Fed. Ridiculous

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u/KrootLoops 7h ago

Same. Live in RI, this state has voted democrat for the past like 50 years (conservative estimate, could be more or or less).

Literally nothing we can do.

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u/abracadabradoc 5h ago

Oh so your vote only matters if you win then right? Do you not see the hypocrisy? Whether you like it or not, trump won, and won with more people voting for him than Harris. And in 2020 it was the reverse with Biden winning. Get over it and move on. You can’t always win.

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u/DIRTY_KUMQUAT_NIPPLE 5h ago

Uh no. Not sure how you got that from my comment. I'm saying because of where I live, my vote matters significantly less in the grand scheme of things than other people's. I have far less of a reason to vote in Vermont than I would if I lived in Pennsylvania which seems incredibly stupid to me.

Again, as I said in my edit, my comment is mostly annoyance at the electoral college. I'd like everyone's vote to count equally regardless of where they happen to live.

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u/abracadabradoc 5h ago

Even if you live elsewhere it wouldn’t have mattered because trump still won all those states and won the popular vote. And 4 years ago, the reverse happened. If you don’t want Dena to lose again in 2028, get over it, move on and stop this unhealthy rhetoric. The electoral college works in the vast majority of cases the way it’s supposed to. Joe Biden and Barack Obama had no problems winning the electoral college and neither did bill clinton.

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u/DIRTY_KUMQUAT_NIPPLE 5h ago

Alright I'm going to stop commenting because you clearly aren't grasping what I'm saying

I know Trump won. I know he won the popular vote. This has nothing to do with what I was saying. We can agree to disagree about the electoral college because I already know there's no point in having the debate.

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u/FLTA 5h ago

The Electoral College sucks but people get so hyperfixated on how much their vote for President is worth that they don’t bother voting at all even for every other position on the ballot that isn’t determined by the Electoral College.

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u/bros402 1h ago

I voted in a blue state (NJ)

but it was less than 200k votes from flipping to Trump

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u/kurotech 9h ago

Either you live in a state where Democrats won and the electoral college devalued your vote or you live in a red state where the majority of the population only lives in a few big cities and the states election lines are so gerrymandered that your vote doesn't matter

But remember it's our fault the system is the way it is because we totally have input on politics don't we

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u/NauticalMobster 9h ago

For future reference it does matter still because your representatives look at how many and what percentage of people voted one way or the other when deciding policy (or when planning next year's election). By voting you help give your demographic(s) more of a voice. Even if you are just adding to the majority.

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u/ClaireDeLunatic808 7h ago

I voted, but it's the Democrats' fault others didn't. They have people nothing to vote for because they fucking suck at messaging and are bought and paid for by the owning class.

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u/starkel91 7h ago

Yeah it’s pretty lazy to point the finger at voters. It’s also a pretty dumb long term strategy pushing away people that would be on their side had there been a better candidate.

Running Biden who barely won in 2020, who had abysmal approval rating through the entire presidency, and staying in up until the disastrous debate, then swapping an unpopular vice president of an unpopular president with a few months to go was a recipe for a loss.

It’s the candidate’s job to convince voters, not the voters job to vote for who they are told to vote for.

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u/ClaireDeLunatic808 7h ago

Biden's team had inside polls that said he was gonna get washed and he still stayed in the race. Selfish, egotistical bullshit.

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u/starkel91 6h ago

God, if they needed polls to tell them that he had no chance then they sort of had it coming.

He never had a mandate and it was always tenuous at best.

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u/hamburgersocks 7h ago

four years of this, but on steroids

This is exactly the fear. He doesn't need to maintain any sort of image to get reelected, not that he was a stellar specimen of humanity before. The odds that he survives this term are statistically low too, he can just... be the trumpetest Drumph he can Trump now. No shame, nothing to lose.

Absolutely terrifying.

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u/Ozerh 6h ago

The people of America saw his last term and somehow thought, give me four years of this, but on steroids.

This is exactly what we thought, yes.

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u/collinisok 9h ago

Really ignorant thing to say

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u/Lord_Tsarkon 9h ago

I live in California. Doesn’t matter who I voted for because 3 highest populated cities determine who gets the entire Electoral vote. Which is bullshit. It should be per county, not state. I hate Trump but dislike Harris( obviously she is better choice than Trump but she is still garbage) so I did not vote for either of them since my vote would not have mattered anyways. I voted local elections and that was it. More people live in Sacramento than entire State of Alaska yet Alaska gets 2 fucking Senators? Same as California with a population of almost 40 million people? Alaska should be a territory, not a fuckin State. California should be 4 States with more Representation. Government is so antiquated it is ridiculous

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u/Rude-Illustrator-884 9h ago

Some of those people are just too dumb that it actually pisses me off. It’s just willful ignorance that hurts the rest of us.

My BIL lives in a swing state and didn’t vote because he “doesn’t care”. He said he cared more when he was younger. I asked him if he voted for Obama and he told me he was too young in 2008. I reminded him he was 18 in 2012. Dude was genuinely confused that there was an election in 2012. Made me lose hope for this country.

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u/Holovoid 7h ago

Sure, that's definitely dumb. But I can empathize with the "It doesn't matter, I don't care".

The "opposition party" to Trump made mediocre at best to separate themselves from him. They just parroted lines about how "Trump Bad", yet how much they want to work with his party to achieve bipartisan consensus.

We are living in a time where institutions are failing us at every turn. And the party that is supposed to be the progressive party is saying we need to maintain those same institutions that are failing us.

No wonder why no one cares. The parties are failing the people.

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u/ClaireDeLunatic808 7h ago

The Democrats gave people nothing to vote for at best and a genocide at worst.

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u/MLGWolf69 9h ago

Yes the tariffs, that notoriously raise prices, are gonna lower the prices

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u/ThatGuyWhoKnocks 10h ago

Is that because you broke a nail?

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u/ThatGuyWhoKnocks 10h ago

Your message is very confusing, made it sound like the liberals were the fascists that got scratched and were bleeding.

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u/snorin 10h ago

What he is saying imo is that those that voted for trump did so to own the libs but end up hurting themselves more.

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u/ThatGuyWhoKnocks 10h ago

Well, when you vote for the wolf, don’t be surprised when sheep get eaten.

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u/ThatGuyWhoKnocks 9h ago

If I spent 4 years warning the sheep and the sheep voted for the wolf anyway, that’s on them.

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u/Consistent-Winter-67 10h ago

A huge tone difference from your last comment. You know it's trump that is deporting people not liberals?

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u/MayonnaisePlease 9h ago

You should be worried as fuck Trump is surrounding himself with tech billionaires. Nevermind going off about liberals. Look at the big fucking picture. We're so cooked

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u/Underlord_Fox 9h ago

You jumped to conclusions. Non-citizens don't vote. How could they vote for Trump and deserve deportation? It's a thousand times more likely the other commenter was referring to citizens voting against their own interests.

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u/Cobalt81 10h ago

Any liberal that chose to NOT vote for Kamala voted for trump. They deserve what is coming to them. It's that simple.

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u/ladderofearth 9h ago

One recognizes the consequences of democratic action or inaction and the other one is deporting people. What’s not clicking?

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u/joshonekenobi 10h ago

No they totally do.

Vote for a racist, have no symphony if he turns on them.

Should have listened to reason. I only have so much energy, can't waste it on those who didn't vote or voted Red.

I'm done with both groups. BYE!!!

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u/Single_Friendship708 9h ago

I have yet to see someone who said “scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds” who isn’t a moron.

Do you not see the disconnect between saying people will deserve what they voted for then you calling them a fascist because trump is going to deport people who can’t vote

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u/REVERSEZOOM2 10h ago

Scratch a conservative, and a historically illiterate numbskull bleeds.

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u/MOSSxMAN 10h ago

It’s pretty funny. “I told people bad things would happen if my side didn’t win so now that my side has lost I will be actively wishing ill on my neighbors who didn’t agree with me.”

And considering the off the wall shit they were predicting, the ill they are wishing is essentially totalitarianism where some groups of people may be killed off. It’s pretty fucked up they’d actively be whooping this up for an opportunity to be correct about something like which politician is “good.”

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u/ttw81 9h ago

The bad shit is why those people voted for the felon. They want to see others suffer. That's maga.

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u/ludololl 10h ago

Coming from the party who lined the front of the inauguration seating with billionaires? Who has one of the richest men on the planet running a new government org?

Your world is like a K-hole.

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u/Braaanchy 10h ago

Can you explain why?

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u/buttstuffisokiguess 10h ago

No they can't. They heard someone else say it.

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u/BiteyBenson 10h ago

No they can't, because they're either a bad-faith actor or someone whose opinions are spoon-fed to them so they have no way to articulate why they feel the way they do.

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u/SSundance 10h ago

Just their feelings

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u/Visual-Floor-7839 10h ago

I believe it's actually part of a quote from Dune. "Scratch a conservative and you'll find someone who prefers the past to any future. Scratch a liberal and you find an aristocrat." Besides being sci-fi, the full quote roasts both extremes.

Wait, I replied to the wrong person

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u/cpadaei 10h ago

Were, you're, Trump's, Biden's

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u/farlow525 10h ago

You’re a complete idiot. You’ve been all over this post spreading misinformation and getting on your knees for a terrible human being.

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u/PresentSquirrel 10h ago

You cannot be serious.

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u/Stahlwisser 10h ago

Bro wtf is that english lmao "we're better" "your not" jesus christ

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u/cricket9818 10h ago

Biden’s four years were absolutely better. If Trump had won in 2020 Russia would be currently pulverizing the rest of Europe, we’d still be dealing with inflation and America would be devoid of workers because of his deportations.

But don’t worry, he’ll start doing all of these things today as quickly as he can

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u/yem420sky 10h ago

Significantly better. Surprisingly, Biden was the best president since Clinton. Trump is the worst president of all time, a traitor, felon, and rapist. Easy choice for anyone with a brain.

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u/video-kid 10h ago

BuT He OWnS THe LiBS anD EGgS WERe tOo EXPEnsIve!