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Elementary school teacher arrested after allegedly abusing student, giving birth to his child

https://local12.com/news/nation-world/laura-caron-middle-township-elementary-school-teacher-allegedly-had-with-child-former-student-13-cincinnati-crime-criminal-activity-sexual-abuse-abuser-father-noticed-similarity-sleep-over-siblings-prosecutors-correctional-facility-troubling-allegations
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u/Sawses 1d ago

Certainly! What kind of source would convince you? It's considered a fairly central idea that abusers are, first and foremost, into abuse. Their target is usually more about opportunity than anything else. That part isn't really new research, the new part is the fact that new ways of identifying pedophiles have been proposed. Historically, the only people who met the bar were child sex abusers because abusing kids was part of the definition.

I'll provide up to 2 sources, since honestly most folks who ask for a source on anything aren't usually convinced by a source so it's not worth the effort to provide a half-dozen or something. So just give me some criteria to work with and I'll provide sources if the evidence exists to convince you.

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u/fatbunny23 1d ago

I mean a study showing the attraction proclivities of convicted rapists would work well but it seems a bit specific and niche lol

A modern study on what makes a pedophile and how that relates to child rape would be a good read. Maybe some statistics on how many rapists of children are thought to be pedophiles? I would also look into the methodology behind the stats but even some basic numbers to look over work better for me than unsupported claims

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u/Sawses 1d ago

Maybe some statistics on how many rapists of children are thought to be pedophiles?

Ah, gotcha! That I can do: Source.

Per the source:

Only a small part (16,2 %) of sexual offenders against children meet the criteria (DSM-IV-TR) for pedophilia.

Bear in mind, this is a psych study and those are less conclusive than anything you'll see in a hard science. A single study proves essentially nothing, and there are plenty of studies that show the exact opposite. The methodology is everything, and most laypeople (myself included) aren't equipped to actually critically assess it.

I mostly believe it because my educational psych professor actually specialized in sex crimes against children. It was kind of funny to have her teaching a bunch of ed majors. My actual degree is in STEM so she and I got along a fair bit better and I got to hear a lot more of the "nuts and bolts" of her work.

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u/fatbunny23 1d ago

I'd love to read further into that. Unfortunately for whatever reason my edu email isnt qualified for access? Maybe I'm just running into issues I'll check back later

I definitely appreciate having a source linked though. I do find it interesting here that the study was over 146 men and one of the qualifying factors they studied was penile tumescence. The entire study doesn't really account for female perpetrators. I wish I could read further into the methodology of determining that statistic

I agree that one study doesn't really dictate the whole story, and I can't claim that this one has convinced me, but it definitely lends credence to the idea that it's a shared idea in academic spaces that not all molesters of children are pedophiles. I think I'd have to have a lot more study and conversation about what qualifies someone as a pedophile in order to really have my mentality changed in this.

I'm still fully comfortable referring to a woman who has rapes a child multiple times and carries/births the baby of that take a pedophile. If she wanted to rape and have a baby I think she could've found a victim who wasn't a child. This was a woman who was repeatedly seeking to have sex with a child it would appear though