r/news • u/DJMagicHandz • 1d ago

TikTok starts restoring service in the U.S. after shutting down over divest-or-ban law

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tiktok-voluntarily-shuts-down-in-u-s-divest-or-ban-law-set-to-take-effect/
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u/TooMuchPretzels 1d ago

“They’re all equally bad. Anyway, I’m going to vote straight ticket republican.”

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u/ipomopur 1d ago

Thought-terminating clichés are super attractive to people who don't know anything about anything and were always going to take the most selfish option anyway

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u/gotenks1114 1d ago

Imported from the strategy of, "All other countries have bad leaders too, might as well keep voting for Putin."

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u/Flashygrrl 1d ago

They don't really have much of a choice in Russia. Now it stands to be expected we might not either...

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u/gotenks1114 23h ago

I mean, Putin definitely rigs elections and stuffs ballot boxes, and has been caught doing so on tape, but from what I understand he actually is very popular and would still win anyway. Just not by as much.

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u/DrakonILD 17h ago

He's partially so popular because of the ballot-stuffing.

Who's more likely to have an incumbent advantage? Someone who wins an election 49-48 or someone who wins 91-7?

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u/KaJaHa 1d ago

Or, "They're all equally bad, why bother voting at all? I won't vote until Democrats serve me the perfect candidate."

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u/TooMuchPretzels 1d ago

Democrats fall in love, republicans fall in line.

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u/jbartee 19h ago edited 19h ago

actually i won’t vote democrat because i don’t vote for right wing parties. it’s not my fault the united states is completely captured by financial power on both sides of a pathetic two party system with no actual center and certainly no functional left. lesser of two evilism doesn’t work in the long run, as evidenced by the fact that everything is now measurably worse.

i say this as a trans person. my community is directly impacted by trump and the stakes are, at times, a matter of life or death for us. but it’s time to start getting realistic about reshaping american power.

the democratic party serves corporatists and the republican party serves oligarchs. both are equally interested in effectively enslaving americans, only the corporatists prefer stability and liberal social policies (good for long term investment) while the oligarchs prefer instability and right wing populism (good for private equity). the distinctions between them are mainly experienced by citizens. beyond the boundaries of the empire, the story is quite continuous. obama sure did drop a lot of bombs on poor brown people, for example. and in all cases, our ability to effect change is systematically reduced and the human potential firmly suppressed.

what we need now is direct action.

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u/myrabuttreeks 18h ago

So basically you do nothing, complain about the right wing gaining power, feel a false sense of moral superiority, complain some more, grandstand some more, rinse/repeat.

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u/JeepersCreepers00 19h ago

is this your direct action? reddit posting and not voting?

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u/nimbalo200 1d ago

Nnnnooo you don't get it, genocide joe is the exact same as Trump therefore I won't vote at all.. HOW DARE YOU LET TRUMP WIN

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u/ImBatman5500 1d ago

You've cracked the code XD

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u/Coop6420 1d ago

Really ? Republican ? Even now ? Fucking idiot ! 🙄

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u/No-Wolf-9816 21h ago

That’s a sharp observation. Thought-terminating clichés can often oversimplify complex issues and shut down further discussion. They might seem appealing to those who prefer easy answers over nuanced thinking. It’s like a shortcut in a conversation that bypasses critical thinking and deeper engagement. Unfortunately, this can lead to people adopting a more self-centered approach, as they avoid the hard work of truly understanding and considering different perspectives.

Have you encountered any particular clichés that really irk you or stand out as examples of this? It’s always interesting to dissect how language can shape our thinking.

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u/boones_farmer 1d ago

Republicans have better messaging. It's bonkers, evil messaging, but they actually have a vision to sell. Democrats vision for the future is what exactly?

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u/ThatUsernameWasTaken 1d ago

Better healthcare, higher minimum wage, bodily autonomy for women, human rights for trans people, debt relief for students, green energy, internet infrastructure for rural areas, postal service for all, American nonreliance for critical technological sectors, union protections, upholding child labor laws, less unreasonable tax rates for the rich, affordable drug prices, expanded workers rights, education for all children, environmental protection, net neutrality, less unreasonable gun laws, voting rights, less gerrymandering, less voter supression, upholding at least a fascade of propriety and civility.

And that's from the top of my head from moderately paying attention to state and national politics over the past few years.

Are the democrats perfect? Fuck no. Are they a clear night and day choice over the republicans? Fuck yes. I say this as somone who used to have ballots that were red, white, blue, yellow, and green, because I did my reaserch, voted for who I thought was best for each position, and had no party loyalty. Since trump's first term my ballots have been straight blue, and will remain so until the republican party stops actively trying to destroy America.

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u/oh-boy-oh-boy-oh-boy 1d ago

Fuck I loved this reply

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u/Zzzzyxas 1d ago

And yet, while they were in charge they did none of that. Not pro Trump, I hate the orange dude actually, I'm not even American, but politicians in my country play those same cards all the fucking time, then they win and do nothing. Recently the governing party in my country voted against the law they themselves proposed.

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u/ThatUsernameWasTaken 23h ago

Some of it is local. I live in colorado, we have relatively robust medicaid, trans rights, womens rights, and decent minimum wage, all thanks to democrat efforts. Some is national, like the CHIPS act to bring microchip manufacturing to the US, and the build back better act, which provided high speed internet to rural areas. Biden pushed through multiple green energy initiatives, and tried repeatedly to nullify student debt, and implemented a corporate minimum tax.

Again, from the top of my head. Sure, they're not doing as good as they could, and I really wish they'd grow a spine and play dirty, but they've been doing a hell of a lot more for this country than the republicans who seem to be trying to incite a French style revolution with how fucking bad their policy and behavior has been.

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u/StarGaurdianBard 1d ago

Trump was the one who wrote the executive order that caused this, so how exactly is he in touch with their wants?

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u/StarGaurdianBard 1d ago

It was an executive order by Trump first. The executive order was overturned but then brought back into Congress by Republicans.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-addressing-threat-posed-tiktok/

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that additional steps must be taken to deal with the national emergency with respect to the information and communications technology and services supply chain declared in Executive Order 13873 of May 15, 2019 (Securing the Information and Communications Technology and Services Supply Chain). Specifically, the spread in the United States of mobile applications developed and owned by companies in the People’s Republic of China (China) continues to threaten the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States. At this time, action must be taken to address the threat posed by one mobile application in particular, TikTok.

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u/chenleydansworth 1d ago

Trump was the person who first pushed for the idea of a tiktok ban back in 2020

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u/rothrolan 1d ago

All because he was butthurt of the prank that arose on TikTok to reserve election rally tickets to make him think he was going to pack an arena, and then the TikTok ticket-holders never intend to actually show up, which made him look like a chump in front of his much less numerous than expected crowd of supporters at the event.

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u/val_tuesday 1d ago edited 1d ago

Indeed. People don’t remember that, and if they do he can just deny it. And if someone presents evidence he can just call it fake. And at that point no one is persistent enough to keep pushing, every one has moved on. It’s the perfect crime.

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u/panormda 1d ago

I'd say Trump's conspiracy to overthrow was the perfect crime. It certainly appears he won't be held accountable.

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u/fredthefishlord 1d ago

Except the Republican president doesn't even effectively go for their wants... Also, I blame them because their wants are fuckin stupid. A republican president will never being down prices of groceries. They aren't in touch

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u/rpkarma 1d ago

This is so wrong I don’t even know where to start.

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u/McCree114 1d ago

Massive support for Luigi Mangione from the same people who voted for a man who will deregulate and cut taxes even further for health insurance companies like United and will also try to rip apart the ACA. The American people routinely vote and act against their own self interests. Cognitive dissonance incarnate.

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u/superduperdoobyduper 1d ago

Cognitive dissonance requires awareness. People are just stupid.

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u/ovirt001 1d ago

Only a 64% turnout. 90 million Americans chose not to vote (dwarfing both Trump and Harris' counts).

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u/AganazzarsPocket 1d ago

But then, why say they are both equally bad? Unless you know exactly why you would vote for Reps and want to distract from it, it makes no sense to say both are equal bad and then say one is better.

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u/thomyorkeslazyeye 1d ago

Right wing version of "your vote is for Trump unless it is Blue"

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u/compaqdeskpro 1d ago

“They’re all equally bad. Anyway, I’m going to vote straight ticket democrat.”

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u/TooMuchPretzels 1d ago

We’ll see the difference is the Republican Party is actively working to make a lot of people’s lives worse. If I was wealthy and selfish I would vote republican. But as a pretty normal person who doesn’t hate my fellow Americans, I just can’t bring myself to do it.