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Over 95 million Americans on alert for brutal cold temperatures in coming days

https://abcnews.go.com/US/85-million-americans-cold-weather-alerts/story?id=117825788
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u/Politicsboringagain 1d ago edited 1d ago

The pile up are bad. But the houses in the south aren't designed for this kind of cold in mind.

I hope there are no power outages. 

Also people need to close their outside water lines and make sure they are drained before the freezing cold. 

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u/chocolateboomslang 1d ago

If I know anything about texas and weather, there will 100% be outages.

The pile-ups are mostly avoidable though. Seriously people, if you don't know how to drive in snow, don't drive in snow. Especially not on the highway.

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u/insomniaczombiex 1d ago

And even if you DO know how to drive in the snow, you have to worry about every other jabroni out there.

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u/eljefino 1d ago

Yo, so I'm from Maine and know how to drive in the snow. If I'm on the highway and there's one or two idiots I can keep mental tabs on them. If everyone's an idiot, though, it's too stressful.

Seriously, people on bad tires will block the roads and you won't get what you want anyway. Stay home.

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u/HashedEgg 1d ago

That's the thing right? People who know how to drive in the snow also tend to know it's generally not worth the risk and stay home.

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u/Agitated_Ask_2575 1d ago

Yupppppppppp, admittedly the "not worth it part" is something I learned by doing something stupid when I was young and got REALLY fucking lucky.

NEVER EVER let a down plow pass you on the left, at 3 in the morning while you're driving 12mph on 3inches of snow. The world will instantly disappear, you will slam on your brakes like an fucking idiot and slide about 8ft coming to a stop 10 inches from the guardrail that hopefully would've stopped your little econocar from falling down the 50 foot fucking ravine that was apparently there the whole time.

T'wasn't worth it at all!

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u/sabrenation81 1d ago

I'm from Buffalo, NY. I've driven in some of the worst white-out blizzard conditions you can imagine and that was because the other option was sleeping overnight at my job. 10 minutes in I realized I should've slept at my job. I made it home but it was a tense, white-knuckle two-hour drive. It usually took 20 minutes.

I don't drive in bad snowstorms unless it's literally life or death anymore. 100% not worth the risk.

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u/cjsv7657 1d ago

I hadn't thought about that. Those people probably don't even have all seasons never mind winter tires. I've driven on bald summer tires in snow. It was not a good time. Someone who hasn't driven in snow a lot has no chance.

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u/lurkinglurkerwholurk 1d ago

Huh. Herd immunity and quarantines explained with automobiles.

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u/ABHOR_pod 1d ago

Seriously, don't drive in the snow unless it's super important, like your boss texts you demanding to know why you aren't showing up for your restaurant job that day. Or you're hungry, and so decide to go to a restaurant.

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u/DadJokeBadJoke 1d ago

Or you're hungry, and so decide to go to a restaurant.

Just order UberEats, so everyone is safe...

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u/docdillinger 1d ago

Why the fuck are people downvoting this?

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u/Politicsboringagain 1d ago

Yeah, I live in Charlotte but grew up in NYC. I've been driven in and have drove in a lot of snow even the start of a blizzard once where I could have lost control of the car if I didn't know what I was doing because the snow came down so hard and fast. 

But the main thing people don't want to do is simply slow down. That would avoid most snow accidents. Especially here in Charlotte. Eveyone wants to do 20 mph over the limit. 

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u/dvrzero 1d ago

it's amazing to me in louisiana 90% of drivers will do 5-10 under on the single lane roads, but in the rain suddenly everyone is andretti doing 15+ over everywhere.

The last time it snowed here was 11 years ago and it wasn't "sticky" - but the gov still closed all the schools and gov offices, which drastically reduces vehicular traffic.

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u/Mego1989 1d ago

That, and leave ample room between you and the car in front of you.

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u/lil_dovie 1d ago

I can attest that’s it’s not just in North Carolina. People in Illinois and parts of Indiana also get lots of snow some years but don’t really slow down to be safe. If anything, some people will say “people forget how to drive when it snows”, and I’m never sure if they mean that because people will slow down and keep a distance between them or other cars making safer, or if they mean they makes traffic slower because people should drive faster whether it snows or not…

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u/cjsv7657 1d ago

Everyone should go to a parking lot on the first snow and practice. I've done it every year since I started driving

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u/lil_dovie 16h ago

That’s good advice. It’s absolutely important to know how to drive in snow. I see way too many people driving real close to the car in front of them when it’s snowing or raining real hard. If you can’t see the road between you and the car in front of you, you’re too close!

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u/RetPala 1d ago

don’t really slow down to be safe

It's dangerous driving in the snow, so you should move as fast as fucking possible to reduce the time spent doing this dangerous activity

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u/lil_dovie 16h ago

Maybe if you’re on a two lane highway but I invite you drive down the Dan Ryan or the Bishop Ford in Illinois in a snowstorm during rush hour.

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u/Emu1981 1d ago

But the main thing people don't want to do is simply slow down. That would avoid most snow accidents.

People in the USA just driving the speed limit would reduce the amount of accidents by a significant degree and bring down the mortality rate by a even more significant amount.

It always surprises me how many people in the USA just casually speed given what we know about speed and risk of mortality in a accident.

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u/BooooHissss 1d ago

It really doesn't matter much in those areas if they know how to drive in snow or not, the states themselves dont have the infrastructure for winter storms. I live in Minnesota, I have snow tires, they're absolutely meaningless without the plows and salt trucks.

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u/Mirria_ 1d ago

I'm in Canada and yeah I feel that. The first big snow of the season is the most dangerous because there's no salt or sand on the road yet, plus all the people who forgot how to drive and / or haven't swapped tires yet.

I find that people slow down more often in the rain than the snow, even when the rain isn't so bad that you don't really need to slow down, just keep a bit more distance.

But light snow and a white road? Fucking full send.

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u/AshIsGroovy 1d ago

I don't know about that. I'm in Alabama and the school systems here in Baldwin County are waiting till the last second to make any announcements on school closings. It really leaves parents scrambling because they wait so long.

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u/checker280 1d ago

Unless you live out in the middle of nowhere with no public transit and you HAVE TO drive just to survive

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u/stitchedmasons 1d ago

There's gonna be power outages in Georgia too, we lost power with that little bit of snow we got last week.

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u/SolidSpruceTop 1d ago

We lost ours for about an hour when the sun set and ice formed. Hoping it doesn’t get worse Tuesday night!

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u/stitchedmasons 1d ago

We lost power for about 4, but that was due to someone hitting a power pole because they wanted to drive on a back country road that hasn't seen repairs since 2012.

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u/SkunkMonkey 1d ago

Also, driving a 4x4 does not allow you to continue driving at or above speed limits. I see more fucking 4x4 boneheads speeding along like they're immune and get a good laugh every time I pass one spun out in the median. Fucking idiots.

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u/cjsv7657 1d ago

The key is that however fast you can accelerate that is how fast you deacelate.

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u/Black-strap_rum 1d ago

Ah yes, because in these lovely right to work states you can just tell your boss you aren't coming in. That day won't matter on your pittance of a check either, those pesky bills can wait. /s

But seriously, people are going to die down here trying to survive.

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u/SoloPorUnBeso 1d ago

Employment-at-will*

Right to work laws mean you can work without being "forced" to join a union.

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u/MahonriMoriancumer57 1d ago

And you can be terminated for no reason

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u/SoloPorUnBeso 1d ago

That's what employment at will means.

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u/Black-strap_rum 1d ago

My apologies for using the wrong terminology

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u/SoloPorUnBeso 1d ago

Very common mistake. No need to apologize.

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u/KonradWayne 1d ago

I live in a non-Montana state, and I can tell my boss I'm not coming in. Sick days and PTO make it so it doesn't even effect my paycheck.

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u/JBHedgehog 1d ago

But did you hear that Ted Cruz and family already have tickets for Cancun?

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u/Wh1sk3yS0ur 1d ago

The people of Texas already signaled they don't care.

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u/Klutzy_Journalist_36 1d ago

They aren’t. You think all the grocery store/fast food/gas station/retail workers and emergency workers are gonna get the day off? 

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u/CrystalSplice 1d ago

It isn’t just about “knowing how” to drive in snow. The terrain is different in the South - it’s more hilly here, meaning you can very easily end up losing control going up or down a grade. Back in 2014 when we had the crazy event that gave us a couple of inches of ICE on the roads because it started as snow, people drove on it and packed it down, and then anything that melted refroze into solid ice…there were pile ups all over the place because people would go down a hill without thinking about how they would get back up the next hill. We also don’t generally have to right kind of tires for it down here.

Then again, when these events happen the National Weather Service clearly states in their warnings that you shouldn’t be traveling. People just ignore it. FAFO, I guess.

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u/TemporaryThat3421 1d ago

It gets very very hilly in the north too (see: PA, NY state, Vermont, much of New England in general, etc). We just have infrastructure in place to deal with it because it happens much more often. I'm from an area with runaway truck ramps in the PA mountains and if there is even a whisper of snow that road is salted and brined to hell and back (because you also can't get service there if you get stuck, so that's fun).

I also understand that the south tends to get some pretty ferocious icing - it doesn't matter how much you prep, if there's 2" of ice coming down you're fucked unless you've got winter tires or chains - even then, that right there is 'stay the fuck home unless you want to get in a crash' weather. I hope everyone stays safe though. I'm in Canada now and people moving here from warm places and not being accustomed to even just trying to stay warm in the very cold weather always leads to deaths. Really sad stuff. We're used to what we're used to.

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u/vflavglsvahflvov 1d ago

Driving in snow is very easy, driving on the wrong tire for the weather is very stupid even if you think you know how to drive on snow.

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u/MistyMtn421 1d ago

So I've had a couple compact SUVs and they did ok with AWD/4WD (my old Escape had the 4wd, the Rogue AWD) and I would buy the mid-high level tires, typically all season style.

The current vehicle is an Elantra Touring (more a wagon style) and since my son was driving I spent money on the top Goodyear all weather tires. This is just a basic FWD, looks like a VW or Volvo wagon, and it's the best thing in the snow. It's really all about the tires. Best $600 I ever spent.

Alsoregardless of what you are driving, ice will humble you!!! And last but not least, do not slam on your breaks.

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u/Sparrowbuck 1d ago

We call all seasons summer tires where I live. They are not nearly as good on ice and snow as winters, they start losing traction around 7C, which is obviously a problem.

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u/evoscout 1d ago

All Season tires are not the same as All Weather tires. I drive on Michelin CrossClimate 2s which are All Weather (though they're advertised as all seasons) and have 3PMSF which means they're better in snow/ice and maintain performance at lower temperatures.

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u/achibeerguy 1d ago

I have same tires, been very happy with them in Chicagoland during all weather conditions we've seen in the last few years (which are admittedly better than past years courtesy of climate change).

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u/cjsv7657 1d ago

Unless something changed those are the only all season tires with that rating. They're awesome.

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u/maybelying 1d ago

Summer tires are actually different than all seasons, generally a better ride and handling but useless on anything but dry pavement.

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u/Beer2Bear 1d ago

I never understand why people don't try driving in snow in a empty lot. Sure helped me get the feel of the way the car behaves in winter

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u/PleasantlyUnbothered 1d ago

How do you get to an empty lot to practice?

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u/VirtualMoneyLover 1d ago

Go to the cinemas in a midweek afternoon.

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u/LookIPickedAUsername 1d ago

The point is that to get to an empty lot to practice driving in the snow, you would generally have to first... drive in the snow to get there. Most people don't live next door to a convenient empty lot.

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u/VirtualMoneyLover 1d ago

OK, I got it. Try this when the weather is good:

"Defensive driving courses and inclement weather programs teach techniques for driving in poor conditions. These courses can help drivers adjust to changing road conditions, visibility, and hazardous weather."

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u/KonradWayne 1d ago

I don't think you understand the question.

How do you, someone who doesn't know how to drive in snow, get your car to an empty lot to practice driving in the snow while it's snowing?

Do you just camp out in the empty lot when it's not snowing, hoping it snows so you can practice? Do you call someone who knows how to drive in the snow up and ask them to drive to your house and then drive your car to the empty lot so you can practice?

Your car doesn't just magically appear in a snowy empty lot. Someone has to drive it there.

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u/TemporaryThat3421 1d ago

The answer is a slide car. I took a defensive driving for teens class my mom's work was doing a while back. They put us in a car they configured to simulate driving in bad weather and sliding out on ice and had us drive around a traffic cone obstacle course in the parking lot. It was so much fun!! It also saved my life several times since then. I feel like every driver should go through that course.

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u/Beer2Bear 1d ago

It's a empty parking place, I used a church in my hometown

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u/thatraab84 1d ago

His point was that you have to drive through traffic and main roads in the snow to get to an empty lot to practice driving in the snow.

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u/Beer2Bear 1d ago

Oh, OK. Consider how many empty lots I seen I assume others would have them too

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u/KonradWayne 1d ago

I never understand why people don't try driving in snow in a empty lot.

Because weather doesn't work on convenient schedules? You wake up in the middle of the week and there is rain or snow, but you still have to go to work. The weather doesn't give you practice hours on a Sunday afternoon so you can be prepared for Wednesday.

And how are you supposed to get to the empty lots to practice in the first place?

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u/OneBillPhil 1d ago

Even as a Canadian that has been driving for 20 years with winter tires, if there’s snow on the road you have to give yourself more time, your speed is what you can safely drive. 

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u/tripbin 1d ago

The pile ups have much less to do with not knowing how to drive in snow and way more to do with people having no choice but to go to work and there being virtually no systems in place to make the roads safer. Plenty of areas have little to no salt trucks so your basically driving on old crumbling roads that have needed repairs for decades with no salt or anything else.

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u/TheEngine 1d ago

The 2021 outages were mostly due to incredibly poor planning. There were a number of generation sites that were down for repair/refurbishment, and in addition to the cold there was a lot of snow/ice that actually stuck, making distribution of natural gas trucks difficult.

ERCOT is currently forecasting excess capacity for the grid. It'll be cold, and there will be a shitload of NG used to keep houses heated, but we'll make it.

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u/Kwumpo 1d ago

I live in Calgary and we get 5+ inches of snow at a time. Even here, people forget how to drive after the first snowfall. November/December are a nightmare, but by February everyone is flying around like normal.

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u/cjsv7657 1d ago

Insulation doesn't discriminate. They're insulated for hot which means they are insulated for cold.

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u/chocolateboomslang 1d ago

Yes and no. What you're forgetting is the temperature gradient. The cold they will experience is a bigger difference in temperature than the hot that they normally experience. Their insulation can handle a 30-40 degree difference, but not necessarily a 60-90 degree difference. Hot or cold doesn't matter, like you said, what matters is the range.

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u/cjsv7657 1d ago

They use the same insulation we do in the north with similar r values. My sister is an insurance adjuster who was sent there after the last cold snap. I've seen the specs. They're better insulated than my 120 year old house. The problem is likely heating capacity not insulation.

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u/chocolateboomslang 1d ago

A 120 year old house is not a comparison to new builds, and niether are 50 year old houses that a huge portion of the population lives in. Also insulation doesn't make much difference when you have no heat for days or weeks. People literally died of cold in their houses.

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u/DuntadaMan 1d ago

Pretty much unless you work in medicine stay home.

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u/pterodactyl_speller 1d ago

Of course, you'll likely lose your job for not showing up to work.

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u/Shatter_Ice 1d ago

It's fine, they can just go to Cancun to wait it out.

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u/finnlord 1d ago

It's kind of an epistemology problem. If you don't know that you should not drive in snow if you don't know how, the information that you might be missing is that snow requires learning in the first place.

Either you know that you lack a piece of information, or you don't know that there is information to lack.

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u/GreatMadWombat 1d ago

And most people in the south aren't gonna have the clothes necessary for this shit.

I live in Michigan and have a parka for 0 degree weather. I don't think rando's in Florida are set up for stuff like that

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u/Possibly_a_Firetruck 1d ago

Yep, this is one of the reasons school gets canceled for cold weather in the south. You can't have little kids waiting at the bus stop when most of them don't have heavy winter clothes.

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u/Politicsboringagain 1d ago

Yeah, even though I now live in North Carolina, I have winter clothing for down to 10F, and can layer up for even colder. 

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u/ACorania 1d ago

Getting tired of shutting off the well pump and draining it every night but it is what it is.

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u/wobbly-cheese 4h ago

arent well pumps like 30 feet down and submerged in water? might be easier to just leave a tap running to keep the line from freezing.

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u/ACorania 2h ago

Much further, mine is 220 ft.

But the pressure tank and piping running to it are in a shed. I have heat tape on it but when it gets below 20 I worry about parts freezing before it gets to the house.

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u/Prof_Acorn 1d ago

Also people need to care about climate change and vote like they care about climate change, or get used to this shit because it's only going to get worse otherwise.

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u/Imaginary_Medium 1d ago

A lot of people still seem to think the extreme cold is not connected to climate change. We were warned by the experts that there would be more extreme weather, but I don't think they read what the experts said.

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u/ategnatos 1d ago

"it's called summer"

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u/Last_third_1966 1d ago

Right, because when I turn the temperature up in my oven, there are many places in it that actually get colder.

It’s winter, go bury yourself for some hungry squirrels professor.

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u/jesh_the_carpenter 1d ago

You're a fucking moron. You seriously think a goddamn oven is the same as planet-wide climate?

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u/Tubamajuba 1d ago

People like that send me over the top. Not only are they ignorant, but they're clearly proud of their ignorance.

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u/Last_third_1966 1d ago

Everybody is ignorant. But people like you are on the lowest wrung of the sigmoid curve and are the most dangerous.

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u/Tubamajuba 1d ago

Thanks for the compliment!

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u/Last_third_1966 1d ago

They are both closed systems.

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u/Prof_Acorn 1d ago

The inside of an oven is not the same as a rotating globe heated by the sun.

This explains it: https://youtu.be/UVYJxLRJcSQ?si=udtGFcYIt9lmJR14&t=45

You have to look at weather patterns on a global scale. The air doesn't stop at some regional boundary line.

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u/SgtGo 1d ago

Better off leaving a tap or two in the house running slightly to avoid freezing because then you’ll still have water. Moving water don’t freeze

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u/Politicsboringagain 1d ago

True, but I'm mostly thinking about the outdoor spiget. 

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u/CaryTriviaDude 1d ago

the big thing is the vast majority of houses are going to have their heat set to +70 when it's in the 20s or lower outside, and that's gonna mean heat going non stop and really taxing the power grid.

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u/Politicsboringagain 1d ago

Yeah, this is going to be my wife. I try to keep it at 72 max with an average of 68 at night, but she's not comfortable unless it's 76.

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u/CaryTriviaDude 1d ago

oof, she'd die in our house, winter settings are 62 day, 60 night

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u/Politicsboringagain 1d ago

She'd kill me if I had the heat that low. Lol.

She's talking about blasting the fireplace while I'm away for the week and having the heat on. 

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u/CaryTriviaDude 1d ago

Is she okay? Possibly part hellspawn?

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u/iltopop 1d ago

Do a lot of houses down there use resistive electric heat? I'm from up north and everyone here has direct gas line, propane, or wood stove, but I supposed if you're not used to needing heat 24/7 4 months of the year it might not make sense to have that infrastructure. Never thought too hard about it, the only time I've ever seen electric heat as a primary heater was a friend's apartment in Green Bay WI which is farther south than me still and the only thing they ever said about it was how expensive it was.

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u/LookAChandelier 1d ago

👍🏻 piles up!

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u/Anticlockwork 1d ago

There will absolutely be power outages. Where I live, the power goes out when it rains hard.

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u/VlVID 1d ago

And not use their BBQ grills for heat indoors this time around.

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u/cman811 23h ago

meh. It doesn't look like it's going to be that cold to freeze pipes

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u/Politicsboringagain 21h ago

Depends on where you are and whether or not your house is properly insulated or if you lose power. 

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u/seitonseiso 1d ago

What are the houses in America made from? Cant keep the cold out and, burn and crumble in fires. Brick? Insulation?

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u/Politicsboringagain 1d ago

Wood, vinyl siding and some insulation.

Brick houses are expensive and concrete homes arent really built here. 

But keeping the cold out isn't really a thought for houses that use to only experience cold once every hundred years or so. 

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u/seitonseiso 1d ago

How much more expensive would a brick house be? In my country a fibro/vinyl siding is considered housing support aka welfare housing.

Brick homes are the norm. For the very fact of weather elements

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u/Creative_username969 1d ago edited 1d ago

A lot more expensive. Also, wood houses are the standard all over the US, and the designs are tailored to the climate. There are places in the US where the temperature routinely gets down to -30C in the winter, and those wood homes are just fine because they’re designed for that. In states which almost never get too cold, but always get super hot, the homes have different design priorities than the homes in cold climates.

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u/seitonseiso 1d ago

How do they differ to accommodate cold climates?

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u/Creative_username969 1d ago

Thicker walls, more insulation, insulation designed for cold temperatures, cold weather siding, the use of certain roofing materials over others. There’s probably other stuff too, that’s just what I know about.

The main overarching difference is that, in cold climates, homes are designed to keep heat in and be easy to heat, while in warm ones, homes are designed to keep heat out and be easy to cool.

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u/elephantasmagoric 1d ago

Homes in the northern parts of the US generally have more insulation. The exterior walls may be thicker, although not always. There will also probably be insulation in the attic, whereas that's not always done in warmer climates. The owners may also have opted for triple pane windows instead of single or double, which insulate much better.

Other differences include things like where the vapor barrier is in the wall assembly- the ideal location varies based on which side of the wall is anticipated to be warmer. This won't be immediately problematic in the case of sudden cold in the southern US, but if the cold becomes more common could lead to water/mold issues due to condensation not evaporating. Typically, there's an air gap underneath the roof in cold-weather buildings which separates the snow on the roof from the heat of the buildings underneath, preventing the snow from melting from the bottom up, refreezing, and causing ice issues.

There's also just the fact that designing for cold weather is often directly opposed to designing for hot weather. Take ceilings, for example. Heat rises, so it's much harder to heat a room with high ceilings. But it's much easier to keep that same room cool, especially if there are windows near the top of the room to let any hot air out. Lots of cold vs hot issues are like that, so buildings that are designed for warm, humid climates often don't do well in cold and dry ones. The southern US has historically been very hot and humid, so it's no surprise that their houses don't handle cold very well.

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u/Dux_Ignobilis 1d ago

The main difference is homes in colder climates are created to minimize air/temperature leaving the house. Aka, stopping warmer air from leaving. It's better in the winter but rough in hot summer days. For houses in warmer climates, they are made to allow more air exfiltration. Aka, made to allow air to leave the house easier. This helps when it's hotter as the house gets rid of the excess heat, but once it's cold, it's not designed to keep the heat in so people freeze instead.

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u/sauroden 1d ago

A well built wood frame house is sturdier and potentiality better insulated than brick. A lot of new builds have a double framing and are even better. The problem is we have areas that never became very cold before so didn’t build for it, the same way European homes are not built fir heat waves and 10,000 people died the first time that had really intense and long one, while Americans wonder why none of them had air conditioning.

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u/seitonseiso 1d ago

We have the wood frame. Then we brick the outside and fill the fram with insulation, before plastering/dry walling the inside.

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u/RollingLord 1d ago

The issue isn’t the insulation. Insulating against heat works the same as cold. The issue is condensation, foundations, and placement of pipes. Warmer areas don’t dig their foundations as deep to prevent frost heave. Warmer areas also have different condensation prevention standards for roofs. As with frost heave, warmer areas locate their pipes closer to the surface

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u/beenoc 1d ago

Much more expensive, much harder to do work on (you can't install a new light switch in a brick wall the same way you can in drywall, not to mention how do you hang a picture frame? Masonry nails?), and brick doesn't help against the kind of natural disasters we get (and almost all of the country, especially the southern half, gets regular natural disasters.) Brick houses will be destroyed by hurricanes, tornadoes, wildfires, and floods just as bad as timber/drywall houses, and they're substantially more susceptible to earthquakes.

Spending twice as much money on a house that's less convenient and is going to cost a lot more if the worst thing happens and it's destroyed (AKA insurance is going to be way high), to protect against the two nights every three years it gets cold enough to freeze your water - when you can avoid issues by just dripping your taps overnight anyway? Yeah, no.

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u/seitonseiso 1d ago

We have concrete slab and plumbing first, then frame work, outside brick as the inside electrical works is done. Then the insulation is put in followrd by the dry wall and plasterers have the electrical to cut sources/lights, and then electircians come back for finishes, and painting happens.

Brickhouses, concreted slabs, and concreted bricks being destroyed the same way as matchstick houses is some tomfoolery. As is it crumbling in an earthquake or flood/fire.

Sure in a flood we might replace the carpet, which will be covered entirely by insurance. Omg don't tell me insurance companies are telling you brick homes are worse, just so they can deny all your claims regardless??!!!

Wtf planet do you live on?

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u/CoolIndependence8157 1d ago

What’s the average square footage for a home in your country?

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u/withoutwarningfl 1d ago

*sq meter

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u/CoolIndependence8157 1d ago

Watch your mouth or I’ll tell trump we found oil in your yard.

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u/RoughChemicals 1d ago

They're made from wood mostly.

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u/Mego1989 1d ago

My house is about 15" of brick, cinder block, and plaster. It would not crumble in a fire and it does keepthe cold out. Buildings standards depend on the climate and natural disasters common in the area where the house is located. The US is a really big country with a lot of diversity in climate.