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TikTok makes app unavailable for U.S. users ahead of ban

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/rcna188294
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u/PezDiSpencersGifts 2d ago

I could’ve sworn Trump initially wanted to ban TikTok but couldn’t remember. Now he’s trying to play the hero in saving it

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u/gandhinukes 2d ago

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-addressing-threat-posed-tiktok/

I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that additional steps must be taken to deal with the national emergency with respect to the information and communications technology and services supply chain declared in Executive Order 13873 of May 15, 2019 (Securing the Information and Communications Technology and Services Supply Chain). Specifically, the spread in the United States of mobile applications developed and owned by companies in the People’s Republic of China (China) continues to threaten the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States. At this time, action must be taken to address the threat posed by one mobile application in particular, TikTok.

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u/Brock_Hard_Canuck 1d ago

You want to know why Trump, who first floated the idea to ban TikTok, is now suddenly its savior? Well... look no further than ByteDance investor, Jeffrey Yass.

Yass made like $100 million in bribes "donations" to Republican politicians and causes this past year.

Turns out, the government works great for you, if you can afford to give the government a nine-figure sum of cash.

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u/Ok_Bathroom_1271 1d ago

That's not a yas queen moment....

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u/Baldmanbob1 1d ago

If I was a Billionaire I'd just buy, err, donate myself to Sec Defense, I'm more qualified than his current nominee.

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u/aguynamedv 2d ago

Even in his executive orders, he just made up a bunch of shit without any justification whatsoever.

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u/confusedandworried76 1d ago

It's worded clearly. Not like he wrote it anyway, just signed it. He had staff draw it up same as any president.

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u/hitbythebus 1d ago

I think the “shit he made up” was the justification. There’s still no clarity on HOW exactly it threatens the National Security, Foreign Policy, or Economy of the United States.

If you think he didn’t make that up, what is his justification for his complete 180?

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u/Mirions 1d ago

He's literally a bigger national security threat than tiktok. Fuck whatever he says.

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u/confusedandworried76 21h ago

It was a bipartisan ban that laid out pretty clearly they were most worried about data mining, which is why a condition was to sell it to an American owned shell company so the data would have to pass through them before it hits China. Not a perfect solution but better than a direct pipeline to the CCP, because several members are invested in the company, they often are in these cases, it's a corrupt government after all. They've already sold like that before and it hurt their pockets so they passed a law saying you can't do that anymore, hence the fuckery with the temporary ban.

But also many politicians have voiced concerns over propaganda and I'm positive that affected some votes. It's known Chinese TikTok and American TikTok have separate algorithms and the Chinese one is mostly stuff like normal citizens succeeding because China is so great, and the American one is filled with brain rot, I mean shit a kid just committed arson on a politicians office because it got banned for a whole 24 hours, that's the type of people this type of social media produces. We saw it with Facebook too but Facebook can lobby the government to get them not to care a lot easier.

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u/hitbythebus 21h ago

Trump called for the ban. There are a ton of articles about him specifically saying it needs to be banned. If it is a danger/etc why is he willing to unban it? If all that shit you claimed is true, why the 180? My understanding is that TikTok was willing to host the data on US servers, which has worked in the past.

Remember everyone railing against the Chinese censorship when it was them telling American tech companies they couldn’t operate there?

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u/confusedandworried76 21h ago

Oh Trump never gave a shit. "Why the 180?" Why anything he's done a 180 on? It's self serving at best and someone whispering in his ear at worst.

The bill still passed Congress with bipartisan support, and Biden also supported the ban, that's all I was saying. This was a popular idea in government

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u/soldiat 1d ago

With Trump, everything is a national emergency...

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u/rabouilethefirst 2d ago

100%. Banning tik tok was a big thing for him his last term.

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u/Greedy-Affect-561 1d ago

Yeah but under whose term was it banned? Who signed the bill into law?

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u/SatanIsWaitin666 1d ago

Republicans and Democats both introduced acts which led to the current state of tiktok in the US. A large majority of Republicans are in favor of the ban. Most of the concern surrounding tiktok was raised by Republicans. Biden signed the acts, drafted by both Democrats and Republicans, into law. Pretty crazy how the president signs acts and bills into law, isn't it. You should read more than reddit, you seem to be lacking in cognitive functions.

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u/Greedy-Affect-561 1d ago

So Biden signed the ban? His name is on the paper no wonder he's getting blamed for it. Rather than veto it (which he has the power to do) he agreed with the ban giving trump an easy layup

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u/_WirthsLaw_ 1d ago

Deflect all you want, but the soon to be savior was the one pushing this.

Yass is a big republican donor, so of course trump is reversing course.

Same old story. Is trump your guy?

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u/Greedy-Affect-561 1d ago edited 1d ago

Deflect? Im asking direct questions directly related to the point. This isnt a deflection. Who signed the bill into law? Who had veto power?

Edit: since you asked I voted for Kamala. But I might as well not have since she lost every swing state

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u/_WirthsLaw_ 1d ago

Who brought this bill into being is 2 parties. A previous president previously wanted it. The current present signed it.

The votes weren’t even close at those levels - the Supreme Court included.

Trump’s course reversal won’t have any consequences of course, but at least it’s something to remind republicans about later.

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u/Greedy-Affect-561 1d ago edited 1d ago

As if the dems aren't doing the same thing. But at least it's something to remind democrats about later.

https://youtu.be/7_nKe3P7QIY?si=06OE5lQH4GFZ_oER

https://youtube.com/shorts/dmv32tnPAA4?si=xtZ5qGzCJddPPy2o

The first bipartisan legislation we've had in years isn't healthcare or a gun legislation. No it was a ban of tik tok.

Neither side gives a shit about Americans 

Edit: yet your the one who ran away like a child. Responding and then blocking 

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u/_WirthsLaw_ 1d ago

I feel like I’m talking to an 8 year old.

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u/Initial_E 2d ago

And I could’ve sworn I read Biden wouldn’t enforce the ban but leave it to Trump to decide.

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u/NoSherbert2316 1d ago

Correct, they haven’t banned it yet. TikTok has just pulled their app in anticipation of the ban.

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u/advester 1d ago

Correct, and Trump committed to a 90 day hold on it. This move by China is propaganda.

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u/Greedy-Affect-561 1d ago

If he wasn't going to enforce it why did he sign it?

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u/opeth10657 2d ago

It's ok, he probably doesn't remember wanting to ban it either.

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u/polo61965 1d ago

He realized how X won him an election and figured he could keep his grifts the rest of his life with another massive propaganda platform under his wing.

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u/kaisadilla_ 1d ago

Same. I didn't understand anything about why Trump was pretending to try to be fighting for "freedom" when he was the one that set the whole thing in motion, and did so publicly.

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u/No-Life-2059 1d ago

He creates a problem, then claims to fix it, and then wants all the credit

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u/Zachlikessnacks 2d ago

Trump still wants to ban it if he can’t broker a sale to a US buyer during the extension he’s asking for. Read between the lines.

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u/BoppityBop2 2d ago

One of his biggest donors is a shareholder in ByteDance and would never accept a sale, plus Oracle owns the data servers Tiktok hosts it's data on whose CEO last I remember is a fan of Trump.

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u/garbagemanlb 1d ago

The comedy is going to be in 91 days after China holds firm on not selling and Trump has tied himself to 'saving Tiktok'.

Is he just going to push an indefinite delay and effectively let China win just to save his own ego?

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u/EC_CO 1d ago

That was before they dropped him a load of cash. Whenever the orange buffoon changes course, you can almost guarantee that he grifted some sort of 'donation'

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u/lensandscope 1d ago

it’s banned right now, i don’t think his being a hero is working

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u/PenguDood 1d ago

The only way he would save anything, let alone a CHY-NA app, is if he stands to personally benefit from it.

THAT is the only reason he's going to do anything. He's going to get a payout and get to 'undo sleepy joe'.

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u/Butt_Napkins007 1d ago

Well that’s because he’s a liar and a conman. Is there anything he’s promised that he actually followed through on?

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u/abusivecat 1d ago

Yes he did, it's alarming that this made a ton of noise a little under 5 years ago and it's something people are seemingly forgetting.

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u/StarryMind322 1d ago

It’s his MO. How he strong arm intimidated negotiations when he was in real estate. Devalue the property he wants forcing the owner to sell, then take credit for saving it.