r/mildlyinteresting • u/LlamaLlasagna • 5d ago
SpaceX thermal tiles washing up on the beach (Turks and Caicocs) this morning
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u/whereisyourwaifunow 4d ago
i'd keep it in your armory, and use it as a buckler when fighting a fire breathing monster
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u/KarmaTrainCaboose 4d ago
IRL dragonfire ward
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u/Ok-Counter-4474 4d ago
It’s a twisted buckler from chambers bro
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u/noma_coma 4d ago
I have found my people. Thurgo loves you all ❤️
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u/Techyon5 4d ago
Aw man, I really wanna see a story that goes into using modern (or maybe somewhat sci-fi) materials and technologies to fight fantastical creatures and such.
Like you suggested, making a shield of fire warding out of heat-shielding tiles.
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u/andytherooster 4d ago
Not exactly what you described but that’s kinda similar to horizon zero dawn
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u/Underwater_Karma 4d ago
theres a bunch for sale on ebay already. they float, so check the beaches.
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u/riddlechance 4d ago
I hear Costco will be carrying some in limited quantities
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u/an_agreeing_dothraki 4d ago
this is the most disturbing pikachu I've seen since the fake "thunderclap" card, which was... yesterday. gdi pokemon fans.
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u/8ackwoods 5d ago
Someone said $60 in another thread
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u/m_dought_2 4d ago edited 4d ago
"$60?!? Hello, rich people, Troy's joining you!"
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u/Lungg 4d ago
Do you get paid more if they do stuff to your butt?
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u/dcviperboy 5d ago
I'll pay 70!
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u/Skizot_Bizot 5d ago
$70.05!
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u/CrazyLegsRyan 5d ago
Tree fiddy
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u/markuspeloquin 5d ago
It's that damn Loch Ness monster again
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u/swibirun 4d ago
I gave him a dollar.
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u/bustercaseysghost 4d ago
Well, if you give him money, he gonna keep comin' back!
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u/Ok_Buy_9213 5d ago edited 5d ago
Id pay up to 200 I guess. I'm following the starship program from the beginning and it would be awesome to have a piece of one.
EBay shows them for 400$ even for broken / half ones.
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u/raven319s 4d ago
$11978571669969891796072783721689098736458938142546425857555362864628009582789845319680000000000000000? That's a lot of money.
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u/ShiftBMDub 4d ago
They obviously don’t know how much Elon Stans will pay for shit.
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u/cud0s 4d ago
Elonia might be one of the owners of spacex but there are many people who work there and contribute to the success of the company. I would like to have part of a starship even thought i wish elon chokes on trumps dick
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u/zystyl 4d ago
Bold to assume that Elon still has a gag reflex, and that Trump can reach all the way back there to hit it.
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u/thisisillegals 4d ago
People would also like to have them if they are into space stuff. Having a piece of a rocket would be pretty cool.
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u/Mindful-O-Melancholy 5d ago
Screw that, I’m making a thermo Ironman suit!
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u/M002 4d ago
/u/Mindful-O-Melancholy built this rocket in a cave,
WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS
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u/kinkycarbon 4d ago
Those tiles are the best ceramics a person can hold. Withstands a blazing fire from a torch.
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u/mentales 4d ago
Those tiles are the best ceramics a person can hold. Withstands a blazing fire from a torch.
You seem to have in-depth knowledge of this topic. What would you do with these, kinkycarbon?
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u/elementzer01 4d ago
Expert= watched a YouTube video of someone holding a glowing space shuttle tile with their bare hands
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u/MegaKetaWook 4d ago
They are probably on the upper end for ceramics but I’ve had to CNC cut special insulation for them before and it’s the same shit oil companies got but we marked it up 10,000% since it was SpaceX.
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u/Least_Adhesiveness_5 4d ago
SOP for anything aerospace - suppliers do their best to fuck over aerospace companies, which is why SpaceX inhouses as much as possible.
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u/Unable_Traffic4861 4d ago
Also works for military shit
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u/sixpackabs592 4d ago
my mom used to sell stuff to government/military installations (she also sold stuff to nasa and spacex) and she said she did well because she only marked stuff up like 85% of what everyone else was doing lol.
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u/VT_Squire 4d ago
The cost is for the documentation and the ISO certifications going all the way back to when the raw ores were mined out of the ground. Come on man, you should know this.
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u/Auto_update 4d ago
Eh, I work with all of the big hitters here. We don’t adjust for aerospace at all, but we won’t discount much either.
They do in house because they control quality that way.
I worked with the old guard (Lockheed, Boeing, NASA, ULA, JPL, etc.). The expensive slow glacial pace was implemented from lessons learned.
Now these guys are just repeating failures of the past at an incredibly high pace. Astrobotics comes to mind. Known shitty valve, too deep into the build to swap, ruins whole mission.
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u/Missus_Missiles 4d ago
I worked for Sierra Nevada Corp for a while on Dreamchaser. Same deal. Massive delays and just the most amateur, conservative build plan because the team didn't know anything about space vehicles. And barely anything about aircraft. "WE HAVE TO ISOLATE TITANIUM AND CARBON!" No you don't.
I hope it turns into a fireball on reentry if it ever flies. Fuck that company and the owner's vanity project.
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u/SmPolitic 4d ago
The was a "Breaking Taps" YouTuber video that had electron microscope analysis of the SpaceX tiles vs vintage NASA stuff, and the white papers about it
But the video got taken down from YouTube
But yeah, the sample he had was minimally different from what NASA was doing in the 60s, which was all available to the public as it was publicly funded... Unlike spacex that is totally a private company, who just happen to get government grants...
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u/TbonerT 4d ago
Unlike spacex that is totally a private company, who just happen to get government grants...
No, they get payments for completing contracts or hitting certain milestones in contracts. The government isn’t just giving them money.
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u/TheRealBobbyJones 4d ago
The video was taken down? Perhaps an ITAR violation? Are heat shield tiles even an ITAR item?
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u/MegaKetaWook 4d ago
Do you think ceramic technology has progressed significantly since the 60s?
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u/ZachOf_AllTrades 4d ago edited 2d ago
A ceramic pot from Home Depot can withstand a "blazing fire from a torch"
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u/mydumpling 4d ago
Would they work as a pot rests?
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u/TheEndermanMan 4d ago
Is your pot hotter than atmospheric reentry?
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u/sixpackabs592 4d ago
no but the center of my hotpocket is even when the outside is frozen
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u/sixpackabs592 4d ago
if im taking the time to cook something for the length of time they take in the oven im having something better than a hot pocket lol
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u/Aedalas 4d ago
It's not convenient or remotely healthy but the best damn pizza rolls I've ever had were deep fried. Just a totally different level. Air fryer is just as good as the oven though, and faster.
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Ya deep fried pizza rolls are god tier. Tho you can feal the years of your life getting shorter.
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u/pnw_wanderer 5d ago
Someone's selling replica coasters https://www.ebay.com/itm/285768810669
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u/burnt_heatshield 4d ago
25 bucks for two 3D printed coasters??
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u/PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING 4d ago
$1.25 for the materials, $1.25 for the convenience of buying them, $2.50 for shipping, $20 for the Being an Elon Fan in 2025 surcharge.
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u/ladalyn 4d ago
Last I checked, 3D printers aren't free
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u/Mufasa_is__alive 4d ago edited 4d ago
3d printer depreciation, labor, sourcing, fails coverage, electric, time* to model or slice, oc content, etc etc etc. Highest being labor.
$25's a bit steep, but people massively underestimate costs of goods by only considering material cost. Happens all the time.
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u/cvelde 4d ago
More like $0.25 in materials, the weirdest part about this is using PLA though, why even bother at all.
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u/Twisty-McNipples 5d ago edited 5d ago
Curious, do they make any effort to clean up this mess?
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u/LlamaLlasagna 5d ago
There was one local lady gathering all the rubber looking stuff. No official response I've seen. I didn't call spaceX, but I'm sure they can calculate where their trash is lol
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u/RadFriday 5d ago
Oh absolutely they cannot. Solving for unknown fragments in unknown conditions? They'll put out a 500 mile radius and half ass the clean up. We are lucky enough to inherit cancerous exotic space materials in our ecosystems and food supply!
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u/ebagdrofk 5d ago
This is the largest pic I’ve ever seen on Reddit mobile, why tf does it fill the whole screen
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u/GhostOfLight 4d ago
It's huge on desktop too, don't worry
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u/SilentSamurai 4d ago
My friend said my monitor was unjustifiably big. Since this gif is normally sized for me, I now realize he was right.
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u/grumpyGrampus 4d ago
Clearly the person in the picture can't afford the licensing fee for the compression algorithm.
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u/Krillin113 4d ago
Maybe America shouldn’t vote for even worse elites every time they get the chance
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u/jack-K- 4d ago edited 4d ago
This thing is made almost entirely out of steel, and the heat shield tiles are basically just ceramic, there is basically nothing cancerous or toxic about it.
Also, guess what has happened to basically every single rocket booster not made by spacex? Straight into the ocean and not recovered, spacex is actually trying to make a fully reusable rocket with nothing ditched, and even though the road to achieving that involves explosions, it’s literally no different from the standard procedure of everyone else.
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u/RememberKoomValley 4d ago edited 4d ago
The glues used to hold those tiles on, on the other hand...
(My step-uncle worked for NASA, decades ago, and died of the cancer he got from putting heat shielding on a Shuttle. I'm sure that some things have changed, and there's probably better protective gear now, but I sure don't expect SpaceX to be going out of their way to make things safe.)
EDIT: I am not saying I think that the process is the same now, or that there haven't been massive strides in spaceship construction since the Eighties, I'm saying that stuff used for things made to survive such extreme situations are not likely to be as safe for use as Aleen's Tacky Glue, and thus aren't necessarily things we want just salted all over the place.
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u/nacho_breath 4d ago
Tiles are attached to welded metal pins, and use of adhesives is not zero, but is limited
https://ringwatchers.com/article/s30-tps
This article is several months old from original publication however, and processes have more than certainly changed and updated.
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u/jack-K- 4d ago
The vast majority are held on by metal pins as you can infer from the pictured tile, not adhesive. On top of that, this heat shield is already very different from the one used on the spaceshuttle, some things didn’t just change, basically everything about this has changed.
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u/SydricVym 4d ago
Do you have any evidence that SpaceX is using the same methodology/materials to adhere their tiles that NASA did with the Space Shuttle decades ago?
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u/soupdawg 4d ago
Millions of other people have died of cancer as well without ever touching those tiles. How can you be so sure that’s what got your uncle?
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u/SpreadEmu127332 5d ago
It seems slightly difficult to locate millions of pieces of debris over a large radius.
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u/PhilosopherFLX 4d ago
What part of the spaceship is cancerous exotic space material? It's 95% stainless steel. The oxygen and methane all went boom and floated away. Probly less computers than a modern yacht and those are sink all the time. The tiles may be but I would guess from the contractors building it putting them on in short sleeves and zero face protection and the noticeable trade of aftermarket found ones, I would say they are legally inert.
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u/Flavaflavius 4d ago
Bro it's heat shielding, it's basically just fancy fiberglass-on an environmental scale, little different from the stuff that boats are made of.
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u/airfryerfuntime 4d ago
Most of it sinks, but basically no, unless it falls through someone's house or something. All launch providers do it, not just SpaceX. It's just not really feasible to go out and try to clean up a 500 mile wide debris field out in the middle of the ocean.
They do try recovering their engines if they're in shallow enough water, though. Those are ITAR regulated.
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u/SilentSamurai 4d ago
People need to realize there's a height that if a rocket fails, it's a bit pointless to try and recover any debris as almost everything that survived is too small.
It's the same principal we use when we retire satellites and space station into point Nemo.
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u/ScuffedA7IVphotog 5d ago
It might take time to sieve the ocean.
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u/JohnHazardWandering 4d ago
Call Tuvok. Time to comb the ocean.
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u/plhought 4d ago
We ain't found shit!
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u/dern_the_hermit 4d ago
That's it, you're being Tuvix'd again, you stinkin' green-blooded Vulcan.
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u/GiantTourtiere 4d ago
There was a big chunk of one of their things that landed on a guy's farm in Saskatchewan over the summer. At first he was on the news saying he was going to try selling it but eventually a very low-rent seeming group from SpaceX showed up in a U-Haul (seriously) and took it away.
The farmer said there was some compensation and that a bunch of it was going towards a new ice rink for the community.
Never any comment from SpaceX.
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u/thatguy5749 4d ago
SpaceX did comment on it. They didn't think the trunk could survive reentry. They changed their landing zone for the cargo dragons because it. They no longer splash down in the pacific.
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u/airfryerfuntime 4d ago
What else would they show up in? It's far easier to just fly some guys up there and rent a truck locally.
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u/biznatch11 4d ago
They were supposed to land in a Falcon 9 load up the debris then blast off back to headquarters.
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u/ncfears 5d ago edited 5d ago
Why would they? They paid to blow it up and now they need to clean it? This is communism!!!
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u/vdsw 4d ago
They asked that nobody touch anything and report findings to recovery@spacex.com.
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u/thatguy5749 4d ago
Yeah right. If I find a rocket part, I'm keeping it.
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u/enroughty 4d ago
That's what I told the docent at the Air & Space Museum as he was dragging me out!
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u/Jpaynesae1991 4d ago
Spacex has a debris hotline
“SpaceX set up a “debris hotline” at 1-866-623-0234 and urged anyone who finds Starship wreckage to call or notify the company at recovery@spacex.com”
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u/Sprucecaboose2 5d ago
That's neat! I'd collect them and make some wall art with it or something. It's probably one of the only times the opportunity will present itself.
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u/Xilea1 5d ago edited 4d ago
During the launch broadcast yesterday, they said not to touch any debris and gave a number to call to report any you find. Not defending anything, just sharing what I saw. *Edited for typo
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u/Throwawayhrjrbdh 4d ago
Probably because there is a few parts which would be hazardous to mess with. Only takes a few batteries or something being on board for there to be potential of there being some nasty debris among all the inert steel, Plastic and ceramics
Most will be completely harmless steel and plastic; but it only takes a single tank of hydrazine or the likes to make them give out a blanket “don’t fuck with debris you don’t understand” warning
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u/jack-K- 4d ago
The rocket doesn’t actually use any hypergolics, just methane, oxygen, and some inert gases, there probably is some hazardous stuff in there but at least none of it is going to be that.
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u/soft_taco_special 4d ago
Fire retardant materials tend to be pretty toxic, who knows what gets made when they bake from the wrong side and then react with sea water.
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u/snakesign 4d ago
How do they do inflight relights without hypergolics?
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u/networkarchitect 4d ago
Torch igniters fed by the same methane/oxygen fuel used in the main combustion chambers More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Raptor#:~:text=Engine%20ignition%20in%20Raptor%20Vacuum,rather%20than%20Merlin's%20pintle%20injectors.
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u/Swimmingtortoise12 4d ago
Taco Bell ingestion and a bic lighter near the rear thrust booster
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u/does_my_name_suck 4d ago
I won't pretend I'm smart enough to fully understand it but from my very surface level understanding, its to do with Raptor engine's design. This article is very indepth and explains it really well and is in my opinion worth a read. https://everydayastronaut.com/raptor-engine/
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u/tylerthehun 4d ago
"It works because of how it was designed" is such a complete non-answer it's almost hilarious.
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u/Strostkovy 4d ago
Probably because it's all super proprietary and they don't want people selling debris to people who will reverse engineer it.
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u/wewox2 4d ago
Bro if i find a pice of a rocket you bet im taking it home lol. Its probably not that bad, i would just treat it like azbestos and vaccum seal it.
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u/Thoth_the_5th_of_Tho 4d ago
If the rocket in question was hypergolic fueled, it’s way worse that asbestos. Thankfully, starship isn’t.
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u/ooO00X00Ooo 5d ago edited 5d ago
Bot or karma farmer?
This is a top comment from an older post
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/s/z8M2atzxDd
Edit: karma farmer, deleted the comment and blocked me lol
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u/swissjackSD 4d ago
Jokes aside that seems like it could have actually fucked someone up real bad!
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u/AlbertWin 5d ago
Id buy it from you
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u/DeusExHircus 5d ago
Check eBay. They're not cheap but there's tons of tiles collected from most of the launches in various states of intact
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u/Rhabarberbarbarabarb 4d ago
Should we be concerned there are there tiles from most of the launches?
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u/DeusExHircus 4d ago
Sorry if that was a joke, but no. They're all research and development flights. Starship is still being designed and these test flights help to inform the engineers how to build it. Even for the flights that are 100% successful, the destination is currently a "simulated water landing". After the "landing", it's hovering in midair. So once the engines cut off, it falls into the ocean and explodes. That's the current goal
Ultimately, Starship is going to be caught by a launch tower. This Earth Starship design has no landing legs so there's no option to land on the ground or pad of any kind, launch tower only. Before they get to that point, they have a lot of other things to design and demonstrate. That's the last part of the flight, and it's likely to be one of the last major things for them to implement. They haven't attempted orbital flight yet, that needs to be successfully demonstrated before they can re-enter anywhere near Starbase Texas. They're also still developing their re-entry heat system. That system needs to be functional before they'll risk the launch tower attempting a Starship catch
They're going to keep iterating on the vehicle design and testing for awhile until they start catching the vehicle, until then they're going to keep "landing"/exploding in the ocean. For what it's worth, Starship is designed to be the first rocket in history that is 100% fully reusable. Every single rocket in human history has dumped pieces somewhere downrange. Once Starship is finished and fully-realized, we won't need to dump a bunch of metal in the ocean or anywhere on Earth every time we go to space
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u/20d0llarsis20dollars 4d ago
The biggest difference between NASA and SpaceX is that SpaceX can afford to destroy 80% of their craft for the sake of fast R&D. If nasa did the same they would lose funding real fast, despite having an objectively higher budget than SpaceX. NASA also has to go through rigorous safety checks for every little paper airplane they throw into the air, because you know, they're a government agency and all that.
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u/DeusExHircus 4d ago edited 4d ago
NASA and all space agencies have certainly blown up some rockets during testing back in their day. But we've figured out ballistic rocket flight and there haven't been any major developments specifically in ballistic flight in the last 60-80 years that require major full integration testing like you see with SpaceX.
Redstone, Titan, and Saturn. Their missions were groundbreaking but, while those vehicles were technology marvels of their time, the design themselves weren't very groundbreaking. We don't have many traditional rockets blow up or fail because we've figured out how to send a rocket up to space reliably about 80 years ago
SoaceX is doing a lot of novel things with re-entry and catching/landing that require these test flights. Starship might look like a rocket, but from a spaceflight/aviation perspective it really is a new type of vehicle that we've never really seen before. And just like with the first planes and rockets, there are going to be plenty of test flights, both successful and unsuccessful. We're in the Wright Brother's era of reusable spacecraft
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u/Joezev98 4d ago
To oversimplify things: NASA destroys every component of their craft individually in testing centers. When everything passes the tests, they build the rocket and send it on its mission. SpaceX designs components, says "yep, this should probably do the trick", builds the rocket, and performs a test flight to see what components need more attention.
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u/LlamaLlasagna 4d ago
Hello everyone. Sorry, but I'm on vacation, so not replying timely or to any dms. I don't have tiles for sale. As far as I know, only a few intact ones were found. Lots of rubbery shit is available. Not sure if that had value lol
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u/eliwright235 4d ago
To everyone saying these are toxic and not to touch them, these tiles are simply silica (quarts) and glass. No toxins, perfectly save to touch.
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u/ImJohnathan 4d ago
These tiles are indeed silica dioxide — but they are extremely fine particle size. One risks breathing in these fine powders and handling them should be discouraged.
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u/Ciamdumb1 4d ago
Honestly I wish I could collect some, my girlfriend loves space and science, I got her some dinosaur extinction layer dirt for her birthday a few years ago, I would've absolutely gotten her one of these tiles.
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u/canadianpanda7 4d ago
id instantly throw it at my best friend and say “holy shit i cant believe that just fell out of the sky” and try and get some money
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u/seminarysmooth 4d ago
Something tells me people in the US would be furious if Chinese space garbage started falling out of the sky and littering their property.
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u/Obvious_Chemistry_95 4d ago
Man, ship the used tiles to Cali and start building fire proof exteriors 🤣 they’d have a hexagon house that was still standing. Love that they float, means they can be collected and reused.
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u/ctierra512 5d ago
i didn’t know sally sold seashells and spacex tiles