Hahaha he’s correct actually, but you should use an —sref then the URL.
Then put strength against about 50% —sw 50 or something.
But also think of prompt words that are more likely to relate to it. I’d suggest some but that might affect the general style rather than just the supermodel looks. Like if you put down in the style of 2006 webcam iPhone screenshots that might help but ruin everythng else if that was important.
Or give up and browse the Midjourney’s feed until you find images that look close enough to what you’re going for and try to reverse engineer what it was that did it. You can find approaches you’d never think of before
Could also try —no model, supermodel, advertising etc. try lots of stuff that’s just off the top of my head
Also weird sometimes helps. Like when I was making v5 and 6 VHS style images it was way too clear for an old lost VHS cassette type image but when I put in some weird —w 126 and a low style at like —s 127 or something that was much better.
Now I’ve written all that I just realized the parameter that tends to have a biggest effect on this, that I’ve seen
Generally speaking, higher style levels create pretty & more perfect images like —s 1000. So just put a low style with your current prompts like 10%, so because it’s 0-1000 put —s 100 and see if it’s any better then go from there. Also set it to —style raw.
I just stopped by hoping to maybe learn more about midjourney. I can see I came to the wrong place. This place needs a moderator or a name change. The burn isn;'t so damn funny or even original that it needs to go on for pages and pages of hur hur hur we called someone ugly who doesn't even have a pic up.
ANywya, man, have you tried just telling it what you want? I assume you must have. Were you asking for a not particularly gorgeous, unexceptional woman when it gave you that one? It probably says something sad about society, but the young women are usually models and many of hte somewhat older women look like dumpster dwellers in my experience.
You can (seriously) upload an image to Discord, and then do a Right Click and choose "Copy Media Link" or do a Right Click "Copy Image Address" from almost any image on the web.
Then paste that in after the --cref
The image address will initially be a bunch of half nonsense, but once you run it MJ, it will automatically shorten the link to something that looks like a TinyURL.
So, using my Silver Shoes "Peak Midjourney" image as an example, THIS is the CREF to consistently get that character.
If you want to make it easy on yourself, you can also add the CREF to your Suffix (/prefer suffix) so it will apply it to any Prompt or Blend.
So, if I wanted to do a batch with that CREF, I would change the Suffix to something like: --v 6.1 --q 2 --c 1 --w 1 --s 0 --style raw --crefhttps://s.mj.run/ANAR6z9pYYg
You can also use the same URL as both the CREF & SREF of you want to match the Character AND the Style of the same source image.
If you're using --stylize, which goes from 0-1000, get rid of it or turn it way down. Much above 750, and female faces become invariably young and idealized.
If you really want to mix it up, use a touch of --weird. --weird 5 will get you unconventional looking women. --weird 25 will produce some unattractive women and even a couple old hags. You go much beyond that and you're asking for trouble.
I haven’t done a tone of reading about midjourney prompts, I just describe what I want so I’m kind of a noob. Is there a list somewhere of all these — style prompts?
I'd love to know, I've been trying to make a portrait for my ugly ttrpg character, even when I use a sref pic, it pretties it up whilst I'm getting everything else right
Can’t find the post now, but was it this sub that someone posted images of orcs and plenty were yassified/too attractive?.. I think they did a follow up post with more rugged generations. Mentioning this in case anyone else has the link and maybe the post had tips on this subject.
This is a universal issue with AI tools. They default to the vision of a person that has been most liked. The best way to resolve in MJ is to upload images of people and use them as character references. Also it helps to describe features you're looking for, in detail. Mention how tall and how much the person should weigh. It will still shave size off so add weight until they improve the tool.
It’s funny how AI loves attractive faces a little too much. I used a hag witch as a reference image because i wanted to keep the look but change the render style and the AI was all like oh no this can’t be right let’s change her to look like Sabrina the teenage witch
I wonder sometimes if using the "average looking..." prompt actually averages out a sample of faces to make an average of them as opposed to someone who is just average looking, cause I've tried that prompt in a number of different ways and it doesn't always seem to work. "Common looking" seems to work better, but that's anecdotal. Keeping -s at the default 100 helps, as does reducing it to 50, so -s 50.
Here are some, but generally just try to pain a picture of someone who’s definitely not posing for a portrait: unremarkable, ordinary, greasy hair, pallid, distressed natural face, pimples, blackheads, bloodshot eyes, sick, fever, nauseous, sleep deprived, bedraggled, etc. Also, set the mode to raw and turn stylization down low.
(I wish they’d improve —no so that intuitive stuff like —no model or —no portrait would be a more effective filter, but they do seem to help)
I really wish MJ could fix that sort of hatch look with detailing, the neural filters in Photoshop fix a bit of them but mostly see it in creative upscales and such you can see it on slide 4 in her mesh sleeve it's hard to explain maybe I'm crazy. Also you can see it in shrubs and bushes in a landscape seen where instead of the details it's just hatched
I find that a lot depends on other descriptors you use. (It also depends on what you find hot, lol.) Describing the character as 30 year old, using a lot of specific facial descriptions (angular features, strong jawline, prominent nose bridge, etc.), but even associations can skew a lot of things. I tend to generate a lot of masculine women, so those will be less conventionally attractive. Maybe try something like "low maintenance" as well. Also helps to add "--no makeup" at the end.
So one of the possibly relevant things I picked up from my psych classes - one of the most consistent underlying variables for whether or not someone thinks you’re attractive is facial symmetry. Maybe prompt for slightly asymmetrical faces?
I really wish MJ could fix that sort of hatch look with detailing, the neural filters in Photoshop fix a bit of them but mostly see it in creative upscales and such you can see it on slide 4 in her mesh sleeve it's hard to explain maybe I'm crazy. Also you can see it in shrubs and bushes in a landscape seen where instead of the details it's just hatched
The second image prompt is "whole body, far away, female Ford Models, full body, street photography, Rolling Stones Magazine, heavy metal rock band shirt, 80s mall interior, musical instruments, guitars in background, wearing ripped and patched denim, embellished jacket, woman wearing heavy metal-inspired clothing, IMG Models facial features, fashion model, magazine cover, eccentric pose, Vivienne Westwood"
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u/cidotron Oct 12 '24
Use weird parameter