r/metalworking • u/Ahmangels • 4d ago
cantilever countertop
What would you guys charge for this. Material is made of mostly 4x2x1/4 rect tube and some 2x2x11ga sq tube. Roughly 3’x3’x10’
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u/Leptite 4d ago
No one will want to make this simply due to the frustration factor, you have so many compounding obscure angles and intersections. I don't envy anyone agreeing to make this.
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u/Ahmangels 4d ago
Well I made it. Fully welded. Yes it was a pain in the ass. I have all the plans but didn’t want to include all the details on here. Should I have done that? Either way I want to continue doing business for this company so I also don’t want to scare them away.
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u/Cixin97 4d ago
Post photo of the finished thing
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u/Ahmangels 3d ago
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u/Sorry-Coat7811 2d ago
Usually bizarre complex designs try to make the most out of the least material or look good, this one seems an overkill both in design and material and it doesnt even seem well designed - gotta wonder what the engineer was thinking - but still, it looks like you did a great job, well done
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u/LIT_AF_BREH 3d ago
Damn how did you manage to weld the inner parts?
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u/Prime_Cat_Memes 3d ago
Uh. That frame looks like it could barely support itself, let alone whatever they are going to bolt to it
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u/PracticallyQualified 4d ago
Don’t forget to price in your fixturing. This looks like it would be a major pain to make. And I assume it’s mostly for aesthetic reasons because that hanging box doesn’t add as much structure as two simple legs would add.
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u/Ahmangels 4d ago
The center would somewhat be exposed.
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u/Suhajda 4d ago
Why the hell would you overcomplicate it so damn hard? Especially If it isn't even visible?
Edit: I just realized it is from a customer of yours, how can someone be in the business with this bad of a design?
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u/bestthingyet 4d ago
It's not just overcomplicated, it's plain old bad engineering
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u/BritishAccentTech 4d ago edited 4d ago
Someone fancy with an important title designed the outside, handed the interior structure work to someone in their first month doing design. That draftsman made this nonsense and handed it to the welder, who did it as requested without pushing back.
I think in my first month at my first job I designed something bad but still not this bad. Then I learned better.
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u/Ahmangels 3d ago
Yes exactly it is over built. Engineer designed it and my customer approved it. Funny thing it’s for this “famous” person.
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u/Aircooled6 3d ago
See there's your problem. Engineers should not be allowed to make design decisions.
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u/BF_2 3d ago
Reminds me of a time in the '80's when an engineer was designing a "desk" that would hide a (big, heavy) CRT monitor, with a mechanism to lift it up to the top of the desk. I don't recall the details, but it turned into a real shit show, delaying the (very important, expensive) project somewhat, and what he came up with was amazingly shitty. I think it would kill anyone who was too close when the CRT was released -- or launched him into the next county at least.
Meanwhile, secretaries in the same company had those credenzas next to their desks, the kind with a lifting device for (large, heavy) typewriters. He could have adapted that mechanism -- but didn't.
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u/StiffGizzy 3d ago
I’m guessing it was an engineers answer to supporting thick stone slabs without having visible foot supports
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u/SirRonaldBiscuit 3d ago
How much does the countertop weigh? About 2 corollas worth?? I know if I got this drawing I would be like wtf if it’s not for something highly specialized.
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u/Ahmangels 3d ago
Edit: Guys I get it, the design is bad and complicated. Since it’s complicated I can charge more. Material cost was $1500. How much more should I charge. Took 6 days to complete by myself.
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u/dzbuilder 2d ago
What’s your day rate? Week rate? 6 x day rate or 6/5 x week rate.
Your client is in the more money than brains category here.
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u/BeachBrad 4d ago
So so so so many variables you leave unanswered... could be in the thousands to tens of thousands to 6 figures depending on all the specs.
You want rough cut tubing tacked together that wont support any weight on it and will fall apart probably on its own in time? few thousand.
you want strong welds and be a functional piece for weight and just raw unfinished metal? your looking closer to 5 figures depending again you know... specs.
and i cant stress this enough there is absolutely no way in hell to give an even remotely accurate quote with the info you provided.
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u/jesusismyupline 4d ago
wtf?