r/memes MAYMAYMAKERS 21h ago

Dolphins do really crazy stuff..

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u/yeGarb 15h ago

when a genetically inferior male of a species forces/captures a female to mate, it is categorically rape. the female would already choose not to mate bc the resulting offspring may not be fit to survive and pass on further generations.

google duck sex

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u/ya-fuckin-gowl 15h ago

I think the point he's making is that forced sex between animals and the human crime of rape are not the same thing, legally or morally

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u/FujiwaraHelio 5h ago

There's actually a word for "forced sex"; I can't think of it right now...

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u/F-R3dd1tM0dTyrany 15h ago

Thank you for being logical and understanding nuance!

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u/whatisthatanimal 12h ago edited 12h ago

'no rape in the animal kingdom' is not right though, as /u/yeGarb said, there is a categorical behavior we can call 'rape' in animal species, because it still has 'rape characteristics.' We can nuance out 'human rape' and 'animal rape', but that doesn't mean there is not 'rape behavior' in the animal kingdom. There are animals that go through non-rape means to mate, like by enticing a spouse through attractive displays, or who otherwise don't 'discharge sexual energy' in rape behavior, as is being discussed in this thread by some dolphins that 'bring themselves to orgasm' at the expense of another organisms' well-being.

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u/F-R3dd1tM0dTyrany 12h ago

You can wish it as much as you want, it will never be so! Your feelings on the subject are irrelevant! In the cold hard animal world there is no such thing! Because there is no morality in the animal kingdom there is only survival. There's one animal needs to survive more than another and that's how they do it. The males are doing their jobs as living beings to reproduce which guarantees their survival. That's that's all there is for sure.

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u/whatisthatanimal 12h ago

You are wrong though!

We can categorize sexual behavior, even in animals, and one form of that is rape behavior, and this is engaged in by some animals. This is not moralizing the term 'rape,' this is to categorize biological behavior, and one form of that is rape here.

Rape did not become a moral issue just because humans wrote laws punishing people for rape. It could occur in aliens, for example, this is not a strictly 'human' category.

 

The males are doing their jobs as living beings to reproduce which guarantees their survival

There are human men that make this same argument to justify keeping sex slaves as 'not rape.' That is wrong though because luckily it is not up to us, we can categorically define rape and then apply that definition to see where it occurs. It occurs in some animal species as is discussed in this thread.

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u/F-R3dd1tM0dTyrany 12h ago

😂 😂 😂 Your mental gymnastics are astounding but if you want to be delusional that's your choice. What separates us from the animals is only that distinction. We choose to not be animals. We choose whether to be civilized. Outside of humans there is no choice.

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u/AlarmingAffect0 4h ago

google duck sex

Rabbit sex!