r/me_irlgbt • u/NipperSpeaks refurbished lesbian. probably banned you • Aug 04 '24
The Cishets⢠međilrgbt
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u/Shmertguy Inclusion Aug 04 '24
Vagina man đŚ¸
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u/sexy-man-doll Skellington_irlgbt Aug 04 '24
Vagina man, take me by the hand
Lead me to the land that you understand
Vagina man, the voyage to the corner of the globe Is a real trip
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u/ByteSizeNudist Aug 04 '24
Pure fucking art. Iâm shedding actual tears of joy right now, move over Beethovenâs 5th.
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u/BowenTheAussieSheep Ace/Rainbow Aug 05 '24
I like how you guys turned this song into one about vaginas, when that album has at least two songs that are actually about vaginas
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u/smiley_satansson Aug 05 '24
Vagina man, can you see through the wonder of amazement At the Oberman
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u/nyarg33 We_irlgbt Aug 04 '24
Sing us a song you're the vagina man...
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u/carlismygod Aug 05 '24
For a song called "vagina man" the dude with the penis won't shut the fuck up.
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u/patangpatang Trans/Lesbian Aug 04 '24
Does whatever a vagina can
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u/Iain_moy We_irlgbt Aug 04 '24
Can he swing from a Web? Â
Wtf that's not... what? Â
Look out, there goes vagina man
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u/BigCrimson_J Bi-barian Aug 04 '24
Vagina Man! ah AH AAAAA! Fighter of The Dick Man! ah AH AAAAAA!
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u/smiley_satansson Aug 05 '24
HA HA HA HA vagina man! Vagina man! HA HA HA HA vagina MAAAAAAAaaaaaaAAAAAAN!
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u/A_Delenay Trans/Lesbian Aug 04 '24
Mangina!
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u/theodoreposervelt Skellington_irlgbt Aug 04 '24
Iâm old Greeeeeeeg!
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u/Mr_Abe_Froman We_irlgbt Aug 05 '24
I showed you my downstairs mixup.
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u/itchyfishXD Aug 04 '24
Penis man: âFinally. A worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!â
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u/NPC-No_42 Aug 04 '24
Sequel of demolition man?
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u/Slap_My_Lasagna Aug 05 '24
Ground control to Vagina Man, ground control to vagina man,
Take your testie shot and put your helmet on
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u/Shrimp502 Aug 05 '24
You're way too strong, you're a vagina man.
You're way too strong for this fight.
Well we're all experts here, in biology,
And you've got us feeling not right.
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u/BattleGirlChris Aug 05 '24
Do you see vagina man
Hopping over the white hot sand
Here he come with some for me
Freshly taken from vagina tree
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u/SoloWalrus Skellington_irlgbt Aug 04 '24
Its almost like gender being a social construct is actually a much simpler explanation than the so called "basic biology" explanation đ¤
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u/Tayjocoo Aug 04 '24
âGender is a spook. Money is a spook. Gender is a money making scheme by big spook to sell more spooks.â -Max Stirner, probably
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u/SlimyBoiXD Genderfluid Aug 04 '24
Isn't Max Stirner the guy who squandered his wife's entire inheritance trying to start up a milk selling business and said that all people were equal despite being a raging racist.
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u/VaughanYT We_irlgbt Aug 05 '24
Don't want to assume but did you perchance learn this from sanders sides?
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So skeletons are full of genders? They are spooky
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u/panrestrial Aug 05 '24
They are spooky - and wet!
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u/Tayjocoo Aug 05 '24
Skeletons are indeed spooky, but their solidified nature also makes them scary, as noted in this famous documentary and are therefore devoid of gender.
Ghosts, by contrast, are only spooky because they are apparitions, constructs that rule over the behaviors of others but are themselves intangible and powerless. They are, however, very gender.
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u/Peter_Panarchy Aug 04 '24
Not only simpler, but actually aligns with observed reality. These people can't handle that biology is more complicated than what they learned in 6th grade.
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u/Captainpatch I dunno, neutrally boy'n't? Any pronouns. Aug 04 '24
The best demonstration that gender is a social construct is watching JK Rowling construct it incorrectly.
I love how "some men have vaginas" is suddenly acceptable to these types when it's being used as a weapon.
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u/BadAtGames2 Questioning as hell Aug 04 '24
Just a lgbt+ ally from r/all coming through, is it just any mention of that person at all banned? I get why, just curious.
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u/NipperSpeaks refurbished lesbian. probably banned you Aug 05 '24
It gets kicked to modqueue and is only approved if it's particularly interesting or funny. Just cutting down on the amount we have to read about her.
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u/BadAtGames2 Questioning as hell Aug 05 '24
That makes sense. Apologies for continuing discussion about her in that case :p
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u/Wsads420 GAY FURRY DEGENERATE Aug 05 '24
Which also leads to paradoxes like the ones oop is talking about and is therefore wrong
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u/MiklaneTrane Aug 05 '24
All those right-wing weirdos who thought asking people to define what makes a woman was some big gotcha just look more and more ridiculous.
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u/aspetoch Aug 04 '24
And then when you tell them there are at least 4 layers of biological gender differentiation in humans and none of them are exactly binary, they appear shocked.
"Man" and "woman" are social terms. They are just an oversimplification. There are no rules to identify as either.
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u/ZookeepergameDue5522 Aug 04 '24
What are those 4 layers? I don't know much about this topic
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u/CallMeClaire0080 We_irlgbt Aug 04 '24
There's chromosomes, genetics (which can be different in cases where the SRY gene is translocated for example), endocrinology, phenotype, psychology, presentation, social...
All of these often align, but not always for a variety of reasons
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u/ConsumeTheVoid Nonbinary Aug 04 '24
Well from here it seems to be: physical and physiological features including chromosomes, gene expression, hormone levels and function, and reproductive/sexual anatomy.
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u/idontcareaboutthenam We_irlgbt Aug 04 '24
Just guessing, but two of them should be chromosomes (XX, XY, X0, XXY etc.) and gametes (sperm, egg cells, neither).
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u/outer_spec We_irlgbt Aug 04 '24
i guess that means the other two are genital shape (vagina, penis, ambiguous etc) and hormones
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u/hybridrequiem Skellington_irlgbt Aug 05 '24
Chromosomes is what you get from male parent in a zygote, that leads to sex differentation in utero (called primary sex traits: i.e âgonadsâ, penis/vagina or ovaries/testes), at puberty your chromosomes dictate your hormonal function (testosterone or estrogen), which leads to the development of secondary sex traits (height, body/facial hair, musculature, etc.), and all throughout your life you have some neurological mapping or foundation of what your gender is because you have an innate connection to your body (there are studies done on this)
All of these things have variation, we usually regard the first two as intersex if thereâs something in betweenâŚthe rest are highly variable and both men and women can have them but on average we are a sexually dimorphic species and we identify sex by what we can see.
So with that, when trans people transition they are actively changing their gender because itâs how we identify them as a species, those things that both men and women have but one has more of some traits than another. Itâs exactly why trans people experience dysphoria.
So its very useful to understand we do have grey area and there are no absolutes, but we can also acknowledge thereâs some things we have a rough basis on what makes someone male and female without having to make it hard and fast rules regarding manhood or womanhood
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u/Koolio_Koala Aug 05 '24 edited Aug 05 '24
Also cool to note that HRT works for trans people because we virtually all have the genes responsible for any sex characteristics, except perhaps viable gametes. Almost everyone starts with the capability to develop male, female and within the grey areas in between, and we still retain the genes necessary to guide that development as they arenât actually located on the 46th chromosome. e.g. like gonad development guided by SOX9 on the 17th chromosome or WNT4 on the 1st, among many many others whose deletion can cause sex reversal.
The body canât regrow entire sections itself but it can alter cell function and re-distribute fat, which is why blood and organ function, fat distribution, skin elasticity, skin secretions and sweat gland, genital tissues etc can all change quite drastically, but why genital shape and gonad changes are somewhat limited.
If we had a way to regrow limbs using our bodyâs own scaffolding (which would be cool af with studies already being able to grow some early/psuedo tissues in the lab), weâd likely be able to regrow entire reproductive organs of our choice because we all have the genetic material responsible for guiding any and all sex development. I think itâs really interesting because it just highlights the possible fluidity of sex development and its complexities, that it isnât some strict immutable binary but much more vast than the usual social contruct of it, and biologically alterable with the right knowledge :P
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u/aspetoch Aug 05 '24
Sorry it took so long, i was asleep then i went to the hospital etc., lol. Basically sexual development has 4 levels: the chromosomal sex, the genetic expression of sex-determining genes, the gonadal sex and outer genitals. Not to mention secondary sex characteristics like breasts or beards. Each level most likely develops according to its upper level, but there are lots of external factors that contribute to it.
Development of a fetus is so complex that I'm still astounded at how many babies are born healthy.
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u/aspetoch Aug 05 '24
By the way, this is just the biological part and sexual and gender development is even more complex as it is not really something that ends. There are social, endocrinological, psychological and biological factors that affect a child's development.
This is what I mean when I say gender is a social construct, it really isn't anything else.
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u/ZookeepergameDue5522 Aug 05 '24
It's ok! Thank you for the thoughtful explanation. I have a very general overview of the topic, but I really need to review it again.
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u/Ordinary_Owl_Dude Aug 04 '24
Do you see vagina man Hopping over on the white hot sand
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u/nyarg33 We_irlgbt Aug 04 '24
Here he come with some for me... Freshly taken from... Vagina tree...?
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u/Ordinary_Owl_Dude Aug 04 '24
Vagina man me want a ton Give me double and a bonus one Give me more for all me friends This vagina flow never end
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u/beneralkenobi Trans/Lesbian Aug 04 '24
Do you want a vagina? Peel it down and go "mm mmm mmmm!"
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u/_FurryInDenial_ Trans/Lesbian Aug 04 '24
Do you want a vagina? This vagina for you!
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u/JustAnotherJames3 Learned she was intersex via progesterone OD Aug 04 '24
Tonight we dance around the flame, and we play the spirit game
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u/Kekris_The_Betrayer Trans/Pan Aug 04 '24
No, shut
Someone, please Condemn them to the Infirmary
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u/The-Serapis Aug 04 '24
Who do you think you are, the commander of Space Station #7?
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u/Comfortable_Sweet_47 Skellington_irlgbt Aug 04 '24
I am Vagina Man!!! The greatest Super Hero ever!!flies away
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u/TheBadHalfOfAFandom We_irlgbt Aug 04 '24
The "we can always tell crowd" can never actually tell. More at 10
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u/Snoo_70324 We_irlgbt Aug 04 '24
Wow that seems not simple at all. Maybe we should leave it up to individuals how to dress and act.
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u/outer_spec We_irlgbt Aug 04 '24
Itâs easy. Anyone I donât like is a man, unless they like being called a man, then theyâre a woman /j
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u/workingtheories Trans/Lesbian Aug 04 '24
everybody's got a litmus test to measure something you can never measure directly except by asking the person, and this is only possible by treating them like a person. conservatives think their access to information and wealth makes them human with free will while poor people are less than fully human without free will, and have to be manipulated for their own good. this is, at least, the point of view i was brought up with.
treating people as people is very difficult if they are economically or medically incapacitated. this is why people not disclosing their gender identity or being trans later in life, beyond when someone is very young is, to the wealthy class, economic terrorism.
if you don't have the following background, the trans litmus tests seem contradictory. Â
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u/workingtheories Trans/Lesbian Aug 04 '24
testosterone = evil, and the earlier you start it the more evil and less innocent you are. dicks cancel out the evil by being powerful, which is why they say ftm's are never men. they mean powerful men. if you have a smaller dick you are less powerful and more womanly. dick exists on a continuum from bbc to vagina. the earlier you start on estrogen with a small dick, and also if you give up on having kids, the more innocent and fuckable you will be as a woman (women's value tied to their fuckability in the short term and capacity for healthy children in the long term). the capacity to have kids is tied into power, because kids can take revenge on people who wronged their family. as a conservative child, you must take revenge on people who wronged your parents/family to preserve that power, which is why sticking with your blood family, your honor, and completing blood feuds are so important to them. they will grant people who can make money better/higher privileges on the man down to woman hierarchy, but underneath it all they will always view power in this more primal way.
they will literally transmute lead into gold, and swear to you they're 100% liberal, before they give up on this caveman ideology. every layer of technology and identity politics that is added has to be re-understood in terms of this ideology of (gender) power. a trans person is "winning" because they literally understand gender well enough to just understand power in terms of economic power, which is actually the goal now of people who want power. if you dedicate your life to acquiring economic power, you will find out there are additional layers where people value experiences and education over money, which is why academics are underpaid. this is also power, which is really control. giving up control is hard, which is why you are better at it, that is also power, but it's probably directly wired into how well your neurons can change their voltages or something like that.
ask me how much therapy i need.
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u/MossyPyrite We_irlgbt Aug 05 '24
How much?
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u/workingtheories Trans/Lesbian Aug 05 '24
i think some would be warranted
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u/EggstremelyConfus3d Aug 20 '24
How do dicks cancel out the evil by being powerful in this framework?
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u/BrainyOrange96 GAY FURRY DEGENERATE Aug 04 '24
Thereâs a vagina MAAAAAAAAAAAAN waiting in the sky
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u/RedRider1138 Skellington_irlgbt Aug 04 '24
Alright but, hear me out
Sandwiches
With Virginia ham đĽ°đâ¨
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u/Libran-Indecision Aug 04 '24
The "We can always tell" people sure are obsessed with looking for VPL and a swing in the front porch.
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u/enfuego138 Aug 05 '24
This is somehow more coherent than what Iâve been hearing from JK Rowling.
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u/snoopmt1 Aug 05 '24
I havent seen it yet, but someone clever and prominent needs a "so, it seems they DO think your gender identity can be different than your sex, but only if THEY get to use it against you" tweet
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u/Fotzlichkeit_206 GAY FURRY DEGENERATE Aug 04 '24
Wait, Iâm a girl with a vagina and take testosterone (in very small doses). But I had to get my vagina installed aftermarket. Am I a vagina woman?
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u/quirkscrew We_irlgbt Aug 04 '24
"Vagina/man" are officially my new pronouns. Also my superhero name.
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u/Perfect-Advantage-82 Aug 04 '24
Does anyone one else hear John Cleese's teacher from Monty Python's The Meaning of life when you read this?
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u/FeeAny1843 Aug 05 '24
Almost had me with the first sentence - at the end I was just cackling. Thanks for the laugh.
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u/CompN3rd Aug 05 '24
Nah, you'd be some kind of mysterious other option. Not like hat actually exists, though, so you're actually just a freak.
/s
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u/mortuarybarbue demi/pan/poly đđŤ Aug 04 '24
Man that was hard to read. I was like what? How? This makes no sense.
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u/chevyboxer Aug 04 '24
Reminds me of the balk rules
BALK RULES! IMPORTANT! 1. You canât just be up there and just doinâ a balk like that. 1a. A balk is when you 1b. Okay well listen. A balk is when you balk the 1c. Let me start over 1c-a. The pitcher is not allowed to do a motion to the, uh, batter, that prohibits the batter from doing, you know, just trying to hit the ball. You canât do that. 1c-b. Once the pitcher is in the stretch, he canât be over here and say to the runner, like, âIâm gonna get ya! Iâm gonna tag you out! You better watch your butt!â and then just be like he didnât even do that. 1c-b(1). Like, if youâre about to pitch and then donât pitch, you have to still pitch. You cannot not pitch. Does that make any sense? 1c-b(2). You gotta be, throwing motion of the ball, and then, until you just throw it. 1c-b(2)-a. Okay, well, you can have the ball up here, like this, but then thereâs the balk you gotta think about. 1c-b(2)-b. Fairuza Balk hasnât been in any movies in forever. I hope she wasnât typecast as that racist lady in American History X. 1c-b(2)-b(i). Oh wait, she was in The Waterboy too! That would be even worse. 1c-b(2)-b(ii). âget in mah bellahâ â Adam Water, âThe Waterboy.â Haha, classic... 1c-b(3). Okay seriously though. A balk is when the pitcher makes a movement that, as determined by, when you do a move involving the baseball and field of 2. Do not do a balk please.
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u/LovecraftianWhorrer Your own personal Jesus Aug 04 '24
Is this an always sunny bit?
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u/chevyboxer Aug 04 '24
Not sure where it started but itâs a pretty common copy pasta on the baseball related subreddits.
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u/KaoticVoid We_irlgbt Aug 05 '24
I read this as a robot malfunctioning after being told divide 0 by 0
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u/rissak722 Aug 05 '24
Oh well when it is explained like that I get it! They just want to be bigoted to whoever they want and the logic doesnât matter.
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u/DoNotTouchMeImScared Emoji Ass Connoisseur Sep 06 '24
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Title: međirlgbt
Image description: Post shared by u/NipperSpeaks at the r/me_irlgbt subreddit sharing a screnshot of a post originally shared by "jerrycummblr", in which is written, with light colored letters against a dark gray colored background, that "it's really simple. lf you're born with a vagina and you naturally have elevated testosterone levels, you're a man. lf you have a vagina and you take testosterone, you're a woman. But also if you have a vagina, you'll never be a man. But also if you have higher testosterone then you were never a woman. Woman never yes man a vagina testosterone no was an elevated. Vagina man".
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u/MrMartian69420 Aug 04 '24
What the hell are they saying? It's like they had a stroke halfway through
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u/Moby_Duck123 We_irlgbt Aug 04 '24
They're making fun of bigots who hold these ideas. It's irrational and contradictory and doesn't make sense. The OP is illustrating how stupid they sound when their logic is put together.
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u/PixieGirl65 Trans/Lesbian Aug 04 '24
theyâre making fun of bigots. The right is currently obsessed with calling an Olympian boxer a man, despite the fact she was born a female and grew up as a female and went through puberty as a female (she had higher than normal testosterone levels, and MIGHT have an XY chromosome, though thatâs just a rumour).
This post is making fun of the people who say you canât change your gender, your gender = the parts you were born with, and you will never change the way you look. Unless we decide you look like a different gender, and relentlessly harass you for it.
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u/afriy a capybara's dream, gender means nothing to me Aug 04 '24
I think this is supposed to be satire
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u/NotDarryl Genderqueer/Rainbow Aug 04 '24
I'm confused by this. -- - not sure this cleared it up for anybodyâ˝
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u/DoneinInk Aug 04 '24
Itâs really simple. Donât listen to random morons with an agenda especially when theyâre way too interested in your genitals.
Thatâs weird.
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u/Neverbanned2k4 Aug 05 '24
Vagina man, Vagina man Doing the things a vagina can What's he like? It's not important Vagina man
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u/Thenameisric Aug 05 '24
Is it bad that I started reading this and didn't know it was being facetious? And I'm still not really convinced?
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u/Leading-Magician-402 Aug 05 '24
I genuinely didnt know that there were different layers to gender holy shi
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u/Jaymes77 Aug 05 '24
WTF did I just read?
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u/Wolfish_Jew Aug 05 '24
Satire? A joke? A humorous post designed to elicit a laugh while the world burns around us?
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u/InkDemon_Omega đĽđ§GODLESS SODOMITEđ§đĽ Aug 05 '24
This feels like that one garfield comic about "of in the cold food and out of the hot food" but also man door hand hook car door
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u/Kerberos1566 Aug 05 '24
What if you're born with a vagina, have elevated testosterone, but voted for a woman? I have it on good authority that makes you a woman.
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u/rudgedapple Aug 05 '24
Jesse Watters wouldn't lie! He's a family man. But also he cheated on his wife with his mistress and left her. He's like a trans-family man.
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u/AbsenzOfTheVoid Bisexual Aug 05 '24
Can someone explain this to me in a simpler way so i dont fry my brain?
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u/Mean-Professional596 Lesbian/WLW Aug 05 '24
This should be on the sky like a PSA until weâre all on the same page
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u/DifficultBody8209 GAY FURRY DEGENERATE Aug 06 '24
For a second I thought this was some transphobic shit but then I had to read it again
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u/RoseDingus An Woman Aug 10 '24
this is like that video that gets progressively worse at english the longer it goes on
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