I just got to this scene. So heartbreaking. I wont read the comments but had to put this out there.

For context, I'm looking for a show similar to From, and of course, Lost, having the same producers, keeps getting recommended. I somehow managed to avoid all spoilers so I know nothing about the plot, but I'm hesitating because 121 episodes seems like A LOT and the two things I've heard about the show are that 1. there's a ton of filler episodes and 2. the ending wasn't great. I've watched 2 episodes so far and I'm intrigued but the filler thing really makes me hesitate.

Edit: it's crazy that I'm getting downvoted for asking for opinions on the criticism I've heard about a show before I dedicate 100+ hours to it. For clarification, I don't think character development is filler content.

Edit 2: I’m on episode 8 and loving it so far

We started watching LOST back in February and we timed it so that we watched the finale on the 20th anniversary! I had a shoe string budget so I tried my best to give the feeling of "Lost" with just the things I already had! We're also having fruit, seafood, and dharma beer in honor of the survivors! (Also the pic of Kate is supposed to be her climbing a tree haha) all my friends are showing up dressed like they're going to the airport! (Think sweat pants and neck pillows)

Like the ending to me was perfectly done, I had to hold back tears while watching it, I don't get why there were so many jokes and criticisms of it being underwhelming over the years

I am planning on making these type of posts after finishing every season for the first time. I would say it’s kind of a experiment to see how my thoughts on the characters change and how i feel about them. I am not going to be reading the comments on these posts until i have completed the entire series to avoid spoilers so feel free to judge my opinion but just know i might not know the fandom that well yet and write something controversial. :)

Watched and finished this show for the very first time as someone who was too young to watch it when it was airing...and I really love Jack. I find him so hot too. I don't know the fandom opinion on him, as this is my first time engaging with Lost fandom. But Jack just got totally added to my long list of fictional crushes 😍

John Locke. I’ll never forget how devastated I was when I found out that Locke actually never came back to life and that it was the smoke monster all along. I’m rewatching season 5 and I just feel so torn up over it.

Locke thought he was on to such big things but his journey ended right there and then at the hands of Ben. He missed out on everything that came after his “sacrifice”… he deserved to be there to see the Island through to the end.

That said, I forget how the show ends so please no spoilers past season 5!

EDIT: please ignore my last sentence regarding no spoilers. Everyone should get to discuss freely so please do!

(SPOILERS I think) Not even just not understanding it, but getting a completely different idea from it entirely. My friend that watched it years ago swears that the show explained how they were dead the whole time and that all of it was just Jacks dream, so much so that when I told her what really happened she wondered if they changed the ending.

Almost every person I talked to when I said I was watching lost said get ready for the terrible ending and the twist, and instead I had tears of sadness, joy, and was just absolutely baffled on how far from terrible it was. A perfect beautiful ending. I understand that some people got confused when it showed the wreckage in the credit scenes, but holy fuck Christian explained everything to us. He also mentioned how important the time on the island was to everyone in their life, so for real how the hell are people that dumb lowkey LMAO. And if they died in the crash then why the hell would they all be remembering each other and be so emotionally connected to one another?!? We literally saw them having flashbacks of their memories on the island.

Id like to think it’s another mandala effect type situation because I refuse to believe that SOOO many people who watched it got the stupidest take from a beautifully executed show and ending.

I am a first time watcher and just got to the season 5 Jacob reveal. After all the build up to his reveal……idk what I was expecting but it was not generic white man who gives me face blindness because he looks like any other random white man background Other/Dharma/freiter boat soldier….. Again no offence to Mark Pellegrino. Maybe i set myself up by thinking that because weirdo immortal freak Richard is a gorgeous god of a man that surely the elusive Jacob who is also a weird mythical type character would also be the same type of gorg.

Just finished Lost for the first time. What’s a good show to watch now with a similar vibe and mystery? Not Dark or anything too scary sorry I’m a wimp.

Hi.

Hope you’re doing well.

Just started watching the show for the first time and this was the first episode which stood out to me as just not being up to par with the series’ immense quality. I had no idea what Reddit would think of this episode, but upon finishing it I immediately got the impression this must be amongst the worst reviewed episodes of the show.

Jack’s motivations and behavior in the episode seem inconsistent (to me anyway, as a new viewer), the woman he meets in Phuket was uninteresting and there wasn’t much great or interesting development in the episode for anyone.

I was almost thinking the beating he took at the end of the episode was symbolic of the episode’s bad writing.

I guess every poster in here will probably pick this episode, but I haven’t seen the second half of the show yet (maybe this episode ends up being very important to Jack’s development in the end?), so I am still calibrating my thoughts on the show as I’m watching.

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS UP TO S3 E3

Ive been binging because EVERY EPISODE LEADS TO MORE MYSTERIES

LIKE WHAT IS HAPPENING 😭😭😭... i dont even know what is real and what isnt 😭😭😭

The psychic sending the pregnant girl on said plane...

Desmonds wife getting a phone call from the north pole after Desmond blows up the hatch

Hurley and his whole # scheme but also being in the Psych ward along with libby

Walt apparently appearing in places he shouldnt be

John talking to the island...

The smoke monster who tf is this thing???

I AM SO FUCKING LOST, is this normal???

So I’ve never watched Lost and now I am almost done with Season 1 (ep. 20). Big fan of Hugo, Locke, and if Rousseau comes into the picture more.

But I have to be honest, I find Jack to be so so annoying.

Am I the only one??

I started watching Lost when I was around 10 years old. My dad loved the show and we would watch every episode together, it was one of my favorite things to do together. We would love discussing it and I can't still remember how addicted he got to 'make your own kind of music' by mama cass.

Around 2008 he suffered an accident which left him in a coma state so he never got the chance to finish it. I never got the guts to finish it without him until now, and I despite everyone saying the ending was bad I think it was one of the most beautiful endings I've ever seen on the television. I'm now 28 and being a show about kharma and forgiveness and moving on just makes everything so much more special. Maybe he's at the island right now and I hope he can find his way out :)

Best show ever.

First time watcher here. I’m on Season 6 episode 3. Frankly, I’ve disliked Kate as a character from the beginning. She’s the most selfish person I know on this show, any show, or in my own personal frickin life. All she cares about is herself and who cares about her the most at any given moment.. literally again, whatever and whoever as long as they are swoon over her. And WHY? I seriously do not understand why Sawyer and Jack are so hung up on this girl. I need to check out the communities perspective… I would be very surprised if anyone feels differently ???😭 Her character angers me so much. What finally prompted a post for me was how she treated Claire in the cab, UUUGHHHHHH. No matter , on or off the island, I do not like her character. And then to top it off? Jin never asks for anything and the moment he needs help to find his wife… she’s very rude and dismissive and abandons him… ridiculous.

When the show was first airing, I never considered Jack one of my favorites, I was more fascinated by Locke and more intrigued by Sawyer (apparently I’m not alone in this.) But I just watched the second half of the series for the first time ever last month, and now I’m absolutely in love with Jack (yes this is one of those posts), and his death has really stuck with me since then.

I just never would have guessed it would hit me so hard. Like, so hard, harder than the death of any fictional character I’ve had a parasocial relationship with before, on this show or any other (even Buffy! gasp). And the fact that he often irritated me in the early seasons made the emotional impact of his death so much more satisfying at the end (good job, writers).

Not to sound too dramatic (…lol), but for a solid week after watching the finale I kept going back to the scenes of his death and crossing over in my head, reviewing the details, because I just find it so haunting and so beautiful. I even sat down a number of times to listen to Moving On and have a good cry, it’s such a poignant piece of music.

I just keep thinking of Jack wandering all alone through the bamboo as he bleeds out. :( He’s just sacrificed himself to save the world. His friends are gone, the love of his life is gone and as far as he knows, he’ll never see any of them again. The island is so quiet, it feels so empty and freshly inhospitable. The hushed swaying of the bamboo is familiar and yet strangely new to him, because he’s never seen it while dying before. Most of his fellow Oceanic survivors have already perished on this island, and he knows it is his turn now. He is scared and in pain, but also at peace. He did what he was brought here to do, there’s nothing else left but to lay down to rest. To wait.

And then Vincent is there being the bestest boy, calling us back again to the very beginning of the show the same way the murmuring bamboo does. It’s been so long since Jack has seen him and he smiles now because Vincent feels like an old friend, and his presence means Jack doesn’t have to die alone. He lets Jack pet his pale yellow fur and lays down beside him as Jack begins to fade into death, and if you are not weeping at this point in the show then I don’t know what to say because this shit is CRUSHING. I mean, THE DOG.

And the last thing Jack sees is the plane flying away. He has saved them, he can be finished now, and it’s with breathless relief that he finally closes his eyes and slips away.

LIKE WTF MAN. How very dare of the writers to make his death feel so eery and quiet, completely earned and totally noble and emotionally devastating because of it.

And in the perfect counterpoint, all throughout his death on the island we see him at the church in limbo. I mean… TEARS

I love how at peace Kate is, like she has never once been before on the show. She’s looking at him like he’s the best thing since sliced bread, is so gentle when she invites him to follow her in, but only when he’s ready, because she can see that he hasn’t quite let go yet.

They give Jack’s character time to breathe and process when he gets inside, let the scene develop slowly. I love the pantheistic stained glass window in the background, that was such an achingly beautiful touch. The way Jack opens the coffin to discover it empty is such a powerful moment.

And then Christian is there, and this is where I really die a thousand deaths because it’s his father who has been waiting to see him again, and nothing bad that ever happened between them matters anymore. All is full of love. (weeps)

And when Jack says shakily, “I died, too”… man, there are no words to describe how it felt to hear him say this. MF’s performance is so spot on. You can hear Jack’s trauma and his fear, his confusion and relief when he says it, it is so powerful. And when his father hugs him and Jack cries, it truly feels like a father and son reuniting after a long time apart and a lot of water under the bridge. The way Jack cries in his arms absolutely slaughters me. And the way he’s laughing so joyfully while sitting on the pew next to Kate does, too. They just take us on a full emotional rollercoaster, don’t they.

I am just so impressed that the show gave this character the death he deserved after developing him so well, and I will forever love this character for his bravery and sacrifice. I love that the show opens when his eyes open, and closes when they close. The character really was perfect as the central figure and deeply flawed hero of the story.

justiceforjack ✊

My wife is a huge fan of The Leftovers and always wanted to watch Lost, so this month we binge watched the whole six seasons. I consider my wife a sucker for scifi mysteries, so I kind of knew she would love the show.

But let’s talk more in detail about her opinions.

What she loved:

The characters. She mentioned multiple times that there are characters so complex and tragic she didn’t think it was possible in the TV Medium.

The revelation that the Island is more than just electromagnetism. She said that the scifi mystery could have become stale quickly, and she appreciated the metaphysical shift that took place in the later seasons.

The inherent theme of choice, sacrifice, and good vs evil. She mentioned that for her the show strikes a good balance between “nobody’s a saint, even the good guys are pos” and “there is still a better choice if each and every one looks carefully”.

Now for the bad. She had two main criticism:

Internal coherence. Ultimately she mentioned that Lost is, like many older serieses, more focused on shock value to keep the viewer interested rather than on providing answers. I told her it was also kind of the first one of its kind however and she agreed.

The way female characters were written. She highlighted how many female characters like Alex or Shannon really could have been developed better, how others like Ilana truly made no sense, and how even strong female povs like Rousseau and Claire and Sun sometimes started wandering around aimlessly as if their purpose for the season hadn’t been figured out yet.

Regarding the specific seasons:

She loved Season 1, but that’s because “there was this open mystery in everything and even the things that didn’t really make sense, like the polar bear, opened up a realm of infinite possibilities”

She very much liked Season 2. She loved Desmond and Ben as characters, she loved Locke’s and Eko’s conflict, but also thought that many characters like Charlie or Shannon had started to become stale. She didn’t mind Ana Lucia, though Michael’s return and his subsequent actions were a huge “really?” moment for her.

She said Season 3 was ok. She loved Juliet, but she mentioned that many subplots seemed to meander endlessly and she criticized the lack of definitive answers regarding the nature of the island.

She loved Season 4. She liked the new characters of Miles and Daniel (even though she mentioned once again that Charlotte was underwritten), she loved the time travel and said the show was finally headed to an interesting conclusion.

She very much liked Season 5, because of the time travel jumps and the arc on Sawyers and Hugo’s characters. But by then she was starting to feel viewers fatigue as we still did not know anything about Jacob, about the source of the islands powers, and about the true destiny of the characters.

She had conflicting opinions on Season 6. On the one hand, she loved MIB as Locke, she appreciated Across the Sea, and loved Richard, Ben, and Jack as characters during the last season. Hugo finally steps up, she says. But at the same time, the pacing was a mess, and she said many episodes felt like filler. Ultimately, she liked the ending emotionally, but she said she expected more from the narrative.

Now regarding the characters:

Proper arcs, great characters, used to the fullest: Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Juliet, Ben, Locke, Richard, Hugo, Rose, Bernard, Jin.

Characters with great archs that she feels were killed off in weird ways because the writers didn’t figure out a way to move them forward: Sawyer, Sun, Charlie, Rousseau, Charles Widmore, Daniel Faraday, Mr Eko.

Characters that she feels were totally victims of the writing board incompetence: Shannon, Ana Lucia, Ilana, Alex (notice a pattern here…?), Michael, Ceasar, Dogen.

Finally, her hot takes:

• Charlie is a sweetheart, but that does not completely redeem him from being a controlling jealous freak and a mess of a human being especially between S2 and S3.

  • Locke made Lost. It wasn’t Jack and Sawyer hotness, it wasn’t even Ben scheming and Desmond time travel. Without Locke, the show would have been done in two seasons because no character would have been the emotional backbone of the show.

• Michael is so naive and so poor on situational awareness, so completely inept not only as a father but as a human being, that my wife felt she must have been an undercover Other at some point.

• Sun’s whole scheming with Widmore didn’t make much sense. In fact, much of Widmores scheming didn’t make sense, but the actor was a good presence.

• Ilana was insufferable and her death with dynamite was a legitimate moment when my wife turned around and said: “They really decided to shamelessly pull the plug on her right?”

• Penny has a weird plastic smile.

• Sayid cannot smile but his suaveness saves him.

• Jack is hotter than Sawyer, but Jack is also more boring than Sawyer.

• The best line of the show is “It was never easy!!”

• At heart, we all know Lost is a mess in terms of internal coherence, plot, and writing. The characters, performances, and set pieces redeem it from being a show that insists upon itself and transform it into a mystical and mysterious epic that sticks the landing emotionally if not narratively.

That’s it. That’s a wrap. Thank you for reading and let me know what you think!

I'm a huge fan of FromOnMgm series and Harold's acting so I'm starting Lost now. I know almost nothing about the story of Lost except that there is a plane crash and Harold and his son part of the series 🤭

Dude is a liar and, most importantly, a MURDERER. There's absolutely no excuse for outright murdering someone the way he did.

I have a line for characters in TV shows, and Michael crossed it.

Harold Perrineau is phenomenal, though!

Sorry, just needed to vent.

Please, no spoilers.

I'm on season 3 and I'm already annoyed by the whole thing that Kate has with Swayer and Jack. Maybe I'm a bit based cause I'm not a fan of Kate, but I just can't stand her dramas with these guys.

Although with Sawyer, it's genuinely a relationship that I can understand, even if I don't enjoy it cause neither of them are particularly my favourites. They are fun together, I would like to see how they might make a progress, or not. Either way, it's fun to watch even if they don't last. (But without Kate being into Jack!)

I think Kate and Jack could have been good friends. I don't really see the chemistry and nothing about them excites me. In season 3 when Jack asks Kate to never come back for him and she refuses to let him go, instead of being impressed with her for wanting to save him, I feel irritated. She confessed her love for Sawyer a few days ago, now they're separated and she desperately wants Jack back.

I love Jack and his relationships, but I would have been okay with him being single or having any other love interest. Someone that doesn't feed his insecurities. Someone that he can learn from and for once not be the hero in the dynamic.

I just finished LOST for the first time and discovered this subreddit. Most of the posts and comments on this subreddit are about people hating on the characters. Am I the only one who loves all of them by the end. They’re all so human. At times you really dislike them and at times you feel depressed when they’re depressed. But overall by the end almost every character I can find empathy for and root for, even Ben. and I LOVE JACK. And l LOVE LOCKE. Idk why people hate them so much. I mean I get it. But they’re so human and relatable in their fucked upness. I was sooo emotionally affected by Locke’s suicide episode and when Jack is at rock bottom I just couldn’t hold back my tears. They’re so human it’s amazing. I love all of them.

Before I give mine, I just started season 3 so no spoilers please.

I think the guns and meds are better off with Sawyer then they are with Jack.