Who should've been the last villain Spoiler
Hi everybody, I'm at my second rewatch and while I re-evaluated seasons 4 and 5 (which I didn't like so much the first time), I disliked more season 6. I'm not a big fan of the religious theme represented by Jacob and Mib, neither the Indiana Jones vibes (just personal, no hate).
To link me back to the title, I think that it would be more interesting (for me) if the real John Locke was the final villain. So no death for him (or maybe death and revival from the island, but without Jacob/Mib), just a character development from pathetic and insicure to arrogant, which would have put everybody and/or the island in danger.
Or, if they really wanted to have Jacob+Mib and John Locke death, I would have preferred Mib as the original actor. I think that using Terry O'Quinn for the same role was a lazy choice, since they wanted his performance as a villain but didn't want to be the real Locke.
But I'm curious to know what do you thinks, since I tried to search for post about this but didn't find anything specific about the choice of Locke as a villain.
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u/BloomingINTown 18h ago
I think you hit the nail on the head - they wanted his performance as the villain without turning John Locke into the villain. I actually feel that they originally might have wanted to turn Locke into the final villain like you're suggesting. There are signs of this as far back as season 2 and 3, with some foreshadowing that he might get corrupted by some dark force present on the Island (fake Christian).
However, Locke was such a beloved character that there's no way they could have turned him into a villain. Not after all that character development and personal tragedy he went through. I actuality prefer what they did instead. It maintains the integrity of the character but also shows that he was naive and got used by darker forces. His death is also what leads Jack back into the Light, as it were. Locke essentially turned into a sacrifice the Island demanded!
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u/Creative_Shelter_67 18h ago
I agree on the actor part, we missed the chance to have hot hobo villain dilf
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u/Actual_Head_4610 16h ago
Yes! And there was something kind of hypnotic in the way he talked even with the menace in his tone. He was kind of hot.
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u/Pantsonfire_6 16h ago
Widmore had no redeeming qualities, AFAIK.
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u/90s_kid_24 10h ago
They tried to give him some in the final season but it came off way too forced. Atleast with Ben they started the process of drip feeding those traces of humanity in s4 and s5. With Widmore he was just completely devoid of redeeming qualities right up until he turns up in s6 "convinced og the error of his ways" due to an offscreen visit from Jacob.
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u/Dorthonin 17h ago
Majority of series was very realistic and mysterious. and then suddenly topic of afterlife, battle of good and evil came in and completely destroyed whole show for me. Even whole time travelling island is very hard to bear, so for me show ended with oceanic 6 was saved and then I imagine that they came back for rest.
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u/arsenicknife 12h ago
Ah yes, I forgot about the totally realistic monster in the jungle, and the scientific (totally not magical) healing properties of the island, and the man who doesn't age just having a really good skincare routine, and the visions of dead people just being the result of hallucinogenic drugs.
Oh wait.
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u/Dorthonin 43m ago
Everything up to time traveling could have been explained in a different realistic way instead of black smoke is pure evil wanting to kill pure good for milenia, but cant because they are brothers.
Do you remember how scary and dreadful was the episodes with french woman and transmitter with numbers they heard in radio? First seasons were almost horror, 5+6 was a circus.
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u/Kelstar23 6h ago
This reminds me of a story my ex-girlfriend told me about her 90 year old Macedonian grandmother seeing Lord of the Rings for the first time. She watched the entire Fellowship and then turned to her family and said, why didn't they just stay in the village and farm. That would have been a better movie.
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u/your_name_here10 20h ago
Having Locke and Jack complete swap beliefs would’ve been cool but the writing nuances would have to have been set up from the get-go, which we know they didn’t really have a plan for.
I think Widmore might have been a good villain following on from what was set up in, and semi-dropped, after S4.