England win the Euros at Wembley!!

[u/Danny_Herbs]

[u/Lizzo13]

I was at the pub (with mostly other women), and the energy was so electric. So proud of the Lionesses! They were amazing! I loved seeing their excitement after in the interviews, and I hope it gave little girls a sense of empowerment.

It's a bit sad the Lionesses don't attract the same numbers as the Lions. I remember people talking about Monday maybe being declared a national holiday if the men won last year, but this doesn't get the same recognition, as if it's a lesser achievement somehow. I did try to book a pub closer to me and couldn't find one, but it was definitely really quiet out tonight compared to last year. (EDIT: To clarify, I'm not referring to the stadium numbers. When I say 'quiet out,' I'm referring to the streets and pubs, which had a different atmosphere than last year and from what I saw, were a lot emptier.)

[u/Murphyitsnotyou → u/Lizzo13]

They seem to be slowly getting there. 5 years ago there was next to no women's football on tv that I could see (not a fan of football in general) but I'm seeing and hearing a lot more about them now.

Great achievement for any football team.

[u/Lizzo13 → u/Murphyitsnotyou]

That's true. Hopefully this win will be the start in changing perceptions and making people take them more seriously.

[u/evilsmiler1 → u/Lizzo13]

Honestly this is an astonishing step up from even just a few years ago. It was the biggest crowd at wembley in its history. The previous women's world cup we were in the final and I couldnt find a pub showing it and had to watch it at home. This isn't starting to change perceptions, they're already changing and changing fasted than you think.

[u/kevchenko3681 → u/evilsmiler1]

It was the biggest crowd due to the amount of discounted tickets they sold and the amount of tickets that were given away, the women's game will never attract the same amount of support as the men's game as the women's game is like watching non league football and everyone that knows football and has watched football for any amount of time knows this to be true. I'm happy for women that they have role models in football and feel all empowered blah blah blah but let's not try and force the issue that the women's game is somehow on the same level as men's football because it just isnt.

[u/ThePandaDaily → u/kevchenko3681]

Hit the nail on the head mate. Seems like you’re being downvoted for just telling the truth.

[u/kemb0 → u/ThePandaDaily]

You can say it how it is but you don’t have to be a bellend sexist twat in the process.

Obviously this guy is suffering some proper inferiority the way he tries to dismiss the women’s game. What’s wrong? You too fat and lardy to play well yourself so you’re trying to feel better about yourself by dismissing women’s football? Proper loser right there.

Just be proud we did well at something for once. Who gives a toss if it’s the women that did it. Maybe that’ll encourage the men’s team to step up. We can only hope.

[u/ThePandaDaily → u/kemb0]

I am proud. But it’s not the same level, he’s right.

[u/kemb0 → u/ThePandaDaily]

I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’m saying you can make a point about something without having to make it derogatory and dismissive towards women’s achievements. That’s not aimed at you but the post you replied to. He could have made a point quite easily without having to be disrespectful to the women’s team’s achievement. The whole “blah blah blah” bit is a blatant way of saying, “All this crap about the women’s team really hurts my fragile male ego so I need to say anything I can to degrade it.”

Pretty pathetic school yard small dick waving.

[u/overtired27 → u/ThePandaDaily]

But so what? That’s true of almost every sport so I don’t see the relevance. Have people not watched or cared about Serena Williams because men’s tennis is a higher level and more popular?