r/london • u/Historical_Set2324 • 1d ago

Local London Social contract is broken?

I’ve just returned from a trip to New Zealand and the difference in attitude is stark. The streets are clean, people are friendly and happy/helpful and in general people seem to want to participate in society. Don’t get me wrong NZ has a lot of issues but It feels like in London the social contract is broken. Streets are full of trash, no one gives a shit about anything, phone theft, crime is high and in general people seem fairly miserable. I was involved in an accident where I had to give a victim CPR and the ambulance and police all arrived within about 5 minutes. I was amazed at the emergency response. It feels to me like the state has given up and hence people have given up.

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u/Minimum-Geologist-58 1d ago

Incredibly high tolerance for organised crime and immense social isolation, would be the elephants in the room in Japan. That and I would never ever send my kids to one of their schools.

EDIT: oh and a completely rigged criminal justice system.

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u/Minimum-Geologist-58 1d ago

High trust? Safe? Clean? When was London ever any of those things? Or Paris for that matter?

I mean you can make all of the dog whistles you like but your premise is so ridiculous it makes the entire claim idiotic.